Captain Marvel

>Captain Marvel
>Skrulls

Is her rogues gallery that non existent?

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Well I suppose there's Rogue.

Kree Empire and Brood too?

His rogue gallery is great.

>Doctor Sivana
>Captain Nazi
>Black Adam
>Mr Atom
>Mr Mind and his Monster Mates

Well it's not like they can use Mystique.

Carol Danvers has no set supporting cast, tone, or distinct atmosphere. The fact that the Kree/Skrull war is the basis for her film says a lot. It's a great move to bring in Skrulls, but I don't think Carol will have legs for an entire franchise, especially if she's jumping 20 years to the present after this.

There's always Moonstone. Then again they probably don't want Carol fighting someone more popular than her.

X-Men.
And even if they had her to use, they'd probably just be pushing Rogue as their Wonder Woman instead of Carol in the first place.
You know, since Rogue is already popular and actually has fans.

If someone says "Rogue is my favorite super heroine!" You don't question it. Even if you don't like her, you can understand why others do.

With Carol? "Carol Danvers is my favorite super heroine!" Is a statement that leads to all sorts of follow up questions. "Why?" being the chief among them.

If ant-man is using Ghost, she could use Absorbing-man, Terminus, Gravitron, Nefaria etc.

>she could use Absorbing-man
What did Creel ever do to you?

Captain marvel got the most fuckable face right there.

Half of those characters already appeared in AOS

But that's the thing, you can't really do much with just that hero vs villain dynamic if there's nothing attached to it. Carol has NO supporting cast!

>hero
>using their most famous villains
How shocking.

She's got like 5 years to get a villain in the comics that isn't Moonstone

Not saying no, but not everyone is in to gay man.

>uses kree-skrull war
>the only time carol was there was a skrull

bravo

He is the offical jobber at Marvel.

yup. She's just there for surface level diversity. It's why her push isn't getting her over.

this is Sup Forums

WHY ISN'T SHE THE MAIN VILLAIN

>Liking a woman is gay.

Look, If you like old design, that is okay. I don't shit on you because of it.

She's prettier and more popular than current Carol.

Sounds like Loki and Thor.

It looks like porn was used as a reference. Would.

With the multi-million strong Carol Corps behind her I doubt there is any villain who stands a chance

They saving her for the eventual Thunderbolts movie.

She does not look like women though. On the other hand if she had more color in her hair and/or added glasses, she would look like at least 2 gay man I know. I don't even know how this character looked like before.

> Mr Banjo
> King Kull
> IBAC
>SABBAC

To be fair, Captain Marvel REALLY hates Skrulls.

I mean, Carol barely even has her own villains.

Skrulls will always be associated more with the Fantastic Four. Followed by The Marvel Universe as a whole. And then Carol specifically.
Brood were always done better in X-Men comics.
Alcholism has a more intimate relationship with Tony Stark and Emma Frost.
Mystique is forever an X-Men villain and occasional ally above anything Carol related.
And as far as Rogue goes...I don't like speaking for the majority, but I'm almost 100% certain that most would be content if Rogue just drank Carol to death, since she puts Carol's powers to better use than Carol does.

All Carol genuinely has is a woman who made a better Ms. Marvel than she did, and a "Son" that raped her and impregnated her with himself.

Carol is like Wonder Man. She can be wonderful on a team book, but holy shit she can not stand on her own two feet as a character. Because she has nothing that you can't get from other heroines, while those are heroines have more to give in addition.

The change to angry flat chested bulldyke didn't help either. Because at least before her blandness wasn't as obvious given how gorgeous and curvaceous she used to be. Now there's nothing to distract from how awful she is.

>And as far as Rogue goes...I don't like speaking for the majority, but I'm almost 100% certain that most would be content if Rogue just drank Carol to death, since she puts Carol's powers to better use than Carol does.
Oh do they have the same powers? I honestly had no idea.

My roomies girlfriends favourite hero is Captain Marvel.

A while back Rogue was tricked into joining the Brotherhood and used by Mystique to drain Carol.

Rogue held onto Carol so long that she gained a permanent power boost, and it ended up putting Carol into a coma a good long while.
That's why, for the longest time, Rogue had super strength/durability and could fly as part of her normal power kit. Rogue absorbed Carol so hard that she basically became a kree hybrid herself, sans the energy powers.

Killing Skrulls is the one thing she was known aside of being a raging alcoholic for back when she used the black leotard, you fuckng casual.

>ended up putting Carol into a coma a good long while.
For a day or so you mean?

no you idiot it's to set up the next Avengers movie

In story it was a couple of months. Not sure how long it was in terms of issues though.

I like the dyke cut.

You and everyone else without shit taste.

I'm glad that you do, user. I don't think they draw it well often, but when they do, god is it nice.

Because she's associated more wirh the Tbolts than Carol and they want to make Carol more cosmic, I guess.

Also evil versiom of the hero is so overdone.

Carol will probably fight Skrulls then maybe spends the 90's to 2010's taking over the Kree Empire and restructuring it.

Hell she probably had to do with Xandar and the Kree making nice with each other.

Maybe im Avengers 4 she comes back with a fleet of Kree fighters to help against Thanos.

No, a legitimately serious coma that ate away a significant chunk of her life and caused her to hold a lifelong grudge against Rogue.

Carol at the time was more or less a useless character nobody gave a shit about, and X-Men were at the height of popularity, so they used her as an excuse to buff up Rogue, who was a fan favorite.

The coma didn't even last half an issue and that issue was Rogue's debut.

>Rogue absorbed Carol so hard that she basically became a kree hybrid herself.

Damn how many people have Mar-Vell's genes?

Captain America's villains will become Captain Marvel's villains.

Not as many as were bitten by the same spider that bit Peter Parker.

ahahahahhahahahahahhhahah

but seriously what if cap waas shazam

>first time the skrulls appear in a movie
>their the enemies of Carol

Fuck this, Kl'rt would destroy Carol if they got into a fight

They wasted the best Kree as a mustache twirling caricature in GotG so who gives a shit anymore?

...

if she is a higher rank than captain, why does she go by captain?

Marvel has tended to like for their villain in origin movies to have similarities to the hero. How do you guys think the villain(s) will be similar to Captain Marvel?

MCU villains replicate the power set of the heroes (since in some cases like the Red Skull their powers predate the hero's) but rather that every MCU villain so far has been a dark foil for their character.

Stane not only has another suit: where Tony is a naive war profiteer, Stane is an unabashed "war monger."

Blonksy chooses to undergo the same process that accidentally created the Hulk, seduced by the allure of power rather than the promise of scientific discovery.

Whiplash is Tony Stark in all but name: the son of a brilliant physicist and engineer who feels he should have the fame and influence of Stark himself. Raised in squalor and resentment rather than monied entitlement.

Loki is a classic Shakespearean foil. The lesser brother, perhaps more suited to the throne, but ultimately lacking the traits that make his brother Thor worthy. He is the cunning Iago to Thor's capable but somewhat blind Othello.

The Red Skull injects himself with Erskine's formula for selfish ends and to serve his own quest for power. As Erskine says, the serum magnifies what is already there. For Schmidt it reifies and subverts his delusions of superhumanity by figuratively turning him inside out, revealing how fundamentally flawed his ethos is. For Steve it perfects the outside, reflecting the inner strength he had always shown.

The Avengers have several villains, each a foil unto themselves: Loki, who wishes to enslave humanity and use his influence to rule rather than serve and inspire; the Chitauri, mindless pawns driven by a primal hive mind rather than a team of individuals forged by a single ethos; and,

I would suggest (especially given the direction the MCU takes in Phase 2) the World Security Council (or whatever that body is called) who seeks to neutralize the threat of the Chitauri regardless of collateral damage.


Aldrich Killian follows the essentially corrupt industrialist model set by Stane and Hammer, but he is also a direct response to Tony's pre-Iron Man disdain for humanity, a trait which his arc as Iron Man largely seeks to reverse. The Mandarin at the same time presents a dark reflection of Iron Man who, after the events at the end of Avengers has become well acquainted with the truth that he is not a superpowered soldier or a God from another dimension, but a man in a metal suit. Likewise, the Mandarin turns out to be nothing more than a man in a costume. The difference being that when stripped of the costume Tony shows his true abilities -- the "genius" part of "genius, millionaire, playboy, philanthropist."

Malekith is an albeit shallow foil who is simply driven to plunge the realms into darkness while Thor has pledged to protect them. He's really more of a foil for Odin, I think, than for Thor which is one of the reasons this movie is usually castigated as one of the MCU's worst.

Winter Soldier is an obviously dark reflection of Cap. He is the Cold War paranoia to Cap's WWII optimism, the assassin rather than the soldier, the whispered fear and not the glorified icon. But more personally, whereas Cap is driven by the memories of the world he lost in the ice, the common decency of which he often fights to reassert in the face of globalized corruption, Bucky is constantly the blank slate, the pawn motivated only by the whim of his governmental overlords.

Ronan is the Accuser, a zealot and warlord who champions the superiority of the Kree; a manifestation of imperial power. He is one of their proudest warriors, an exemplar Kree. The Guardians, on the other hand, are pirates and privateers, mutts who have each rejected or been torn away from their natural pedigrees and operate on the fringes of society, in the relatively lawless-because-democratic reaches of the Galaxy. They are not the mercenary army of a subjugated imperial world but representatives of the galaxy's diversity. And they dance.

Ultron is another obvious foil: his parallels with Tony are made explicit throughout Avengers 2. And if you see him as the other side of Vision, as you mention, those parallels still stand. Ultron interprets his dictum to protect the world as a call to cull the cancer of humanity while Vision is imagined as the perfection of his own physical form and the replacement for the misguided human. If Ultron is what happens when Tony seeks to put a suit of armor around the world, the Vision is the world essentially strengthened to defend itself.

Yellowjacket is a foil to Pym, Hope, and Scott. He represents what scares Hank most about himself: the dangers of unbridled genius and simmering rage. He wants what Hope has thrown away: the love of Hank Pym, his surrogate father. Finally, whereas Scott is a moral thief, Cross is an immoral (but, in a subversion of the trope) an otherwise above-board businessman. Scott steals and is then given Pym Particles and the harness of the Ant-Man; Cross is denied the technology, but creates and perfects his own version of the same. There is also the parallel of the father winning the love of a child who has been denied him and the son denying the legacy of the father who spurned him.

Zemo is the dual embodiment of what both Cap and Tony each are struggling against in Civil War. He is the inevitable consequences of adventuring which Iron Man asserts throughout the film, and also the inevitable conclusion of the fundamental contradiction of Cap in the 21st century: the image of morally just Americanism in an age of moral relativism.

Kaecilius is another obvious foil, the talented but ultimately disenfranchised student who exposes the fraud at the heart of the mission. Strange, on the other hand, embraces the fraud as a tool to win the day, which drives the wedge between him and his other main foil, Mordo.

Whereas Peter looks to the sky as is inspired to fulfill the example of the Avengers in his own way, Toomes looks to the sky and feels small. Peter gets powers that he doesn't ask for while Toomes is left naturally powerless. Peter uses his own ingenuity to build web shooters while Toomes scavenges Chitauri tech to give himself his abilities. Finally, if Spider-Man is the result of great power tempered with great responsibility to the public good, the Vulture here is framed as the assertion of the principles of will to power and the application thereof for personal aggrandizement.

Moonstone
Deathbird
AIM
Modok

Well lets look at famous Carol stories
>that time she got raped and gave birth to her rapist
>when rogue stole her powers
>when she was an xman/the brood saga
>those times when Rogue was her

I honestly wouldn't mind the short hair if Carol was allowed to keep her old bombshell proportions. But as it stands, Marvel uglified her to the point of looking like a Butch bulldyke.

>Now that we know who you are, I know who I am. I'm not a mistake! It all makes sense! In a comic, you know how you can tell who the arch-villain's going to be? He's the exact opposite of the hero. And most times they're friends, like you and me! I should've known way back when... You know why, David? Because of the kids. They called me Mr Glass.

Carol will become the villain and the foil to Nick Fury.

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Blumhouse and Universal, confirmed his next picture will be the sequel to both that movie and 2000’s Unbreakable. Titled Glass, it will reteam Unbreakable stars Bruce Willis and Samuel L. Jackson, along with Split‘s James McAvoy and Anya Taylor Joy. Universal will release Glass on January 18, 2019. Blum and Shyamalan will produce with Ashwin Rajan and Marc Bienstock, with Steven Schneider exec producing.

I think the Shi'ar are too involved with X-men stories for Marvel to be able to use Deathbird

Plus there's the whole Imperial Guard being Legion pastiches thing

Her nemesis belongs to fox

>My roomies girlfriends favourite hero is Captain Marvel.

Isn't it illegal to date someone who has downs?

They've got a replacement good to go.

Major Marvel sounds retarded

Is this what an independent woman supposed to look like because all I see is a cunt.

Michael Keaton did nothing wrong

They could probably cut a deal if they really wanted her.

>Carol will probably fight Skrulls then maybe spends the 90's to 2010's taking over the Kree Empire and restructuring it.
>Hell she probably had to do with Xandar and the Kree making nice with each other.
You make it sound like she's going to have a good movie.

>Obnoxious wannabe Superman kid
Carol sucks, but that guy is pretty terrible as well.

That was actually a good backstory for Carol as well. You got the feeling she never got over being eaten up by Rogue and it permanently damaged her psyche. It's a good excuse to give her a bit of a darker side and make her interesting.

But that was all forgotten about after they made her into the most boring tumblr-tier cat-lady superhero for whom the stakes are always pretty low.

Agreed. The hair wouldn't be so off-putting if she still looked female and had a good costume instead of some jumpsuit with straps and a lame looking belt.

>more popular than current Carol.
based on what?

>Thunderbolts 13,780

Karla's time as a Thunderbolt and her run as Ms. Marvel in the Dark Avengers earned her a small fanbase. In contrast, Carol's actions during both Civil Wars and the constant shilling by Marvel has earned the "Yaas Queen" a hatedom as bad if not worse than Iron Man's after the first CW.

Carol doesnt have an archnemesis, user. The fact that she will face an entire race and not someone specific (unless they invent him for this movie, and yes, IT WILL BE A HIM, dont even doubt it) speaks a lot about how current Carol is more about a quirky overstressed woman with too much responsibilities, than being a superhero and gravitas beyond being a woman.

And no, if they didnt use alcoholism on Tony, theres not even a chance they will on her. Even less that contrived storyline of his own son raping her, or whatever that was.

And Creel's apparently a good guy now.

I thought Kree would have been better villains since MCU already introduced them as assholes in space to begin with and Carol never got along with them.

Atlas and Minerva would have been better choices.

>Carol doesnt have an archnemesis, user.
Can't have an archnemesis if you kill all your enemies that you don't have the hots for

He's just an ally of Black Bolt's while they try to break out of space jail

(you)

A Carolfag laughing at another comic's sales. Now I have seen everything.

>(unless they invent him for this movie, and yes, IT WILL BE A HIM, dont even doubt it)
Was this necessary?

Meh, just stick some random villains in there for the hell of it. No one cares who's C-Listers there are, just that they look cool on screen.

So, Stunner, Titania, Quicksand, and evil Power Man are not doing much. If people remember who they are villains for in the first place.

Why not add Melter, Blizzard, Beetle, Wrecking Crew, Maelstrom, or Hyde.

Does it really matter if they are not fighting their typical hero?

More than Wrecker?

With Nick Fury onboard, why do you assume they're not going to give her her SHIELD team?

If we're lucky we might even get Sleepwalker & Machine Man.

I honestly hate carol with every fiber of my being but I'll see her movie because my bae Skrull

Aaron Stack would steal the movie from her.

Issue keeps showing Kl'rt to be the stronger one even when weakened

It's alliterative though!

>Marvel has tended to like for their villain in origin movies to have similarities to the hero. How do you guys think the villain(s) will be similar to Captain Marvel?
>MCU villains replicate the power set of the heroes (since in some cases like the Red Skull their powers predate the hero's) but rather that every MCU villain so far has been a dark foil for their character.

There are a few other Kree with similar powers to Carol. Captain Atlas is one and Minn Erva got powers through the same machine as Carol, even wears the same costume. Then you have all the nega band wearers over the years, there are like 6 of them.

Now the Brood I'm pretty sure is with Fox, who will never use them because space is lame and embarrassing and nobody wants to see it.

And cars.

Jessica Chastain is playing Lilandra in the next X-Men.

No Deathbird for Carol.

>Carol introduced into the MCU
>Can never have her friendship with Jess
ITS NOT FAIR

nice plagiarism user

>The Shi'ar will be seen in movies in our lifetime
>no War of Kings ever tho
T-thanks.

Wait, why not?

Eh, they might use the queen skrull or whatever the fuck it was

For the simple fact that Jess has "Spider" in her name, she is officially owned by SONY

But she has no relation to Spider-Man, what the fuck?