Steampunk is used in dozens of works

>Steampunk is used in dozens of works
>Meanwhile, Dieselpunk and Biopunk barely have anything Sup Forums related centered around them
What makes Steampunk the most used of all punks out there?

Is it even more used than cyberpunk?

Does this nigga count as Dieselpunk?

seems like anything vaguely futuristic is influenced by cyberpunk, nothing is strictly made as cyberpunk though whereas you can find loads of stuff that is plainly steampunk

looks like it

was that movie sky captain and the world of tomorrow any good? reminds me of that look

Autistic faggots love goggles.

Punk rock is the best type
>The Clash might not be the best band in the world, but they were the most important

Hardcore Punk is better.

Id love to see some biopunk disney. Or just more biopunk in general.

By all accounts it was horrible! Just awful!

I enjoyed the hell out of it. Download it first.

>Not Postpunk
Are you even trying?

>Not Horror Punk

Steampunk is the most well known of the punks, so of course it gets the most stuff.

Is there a Punk themed around the 1930s/Great Depression?

It isn't a good movie, that's for sure, but it's such and absurd show of pulp culture stuff that you gotta love it.

Its popularity among artists because of how flashy and pretty a setting mixing victorian aesthetics and retro-futuristic steampunk technology sounds. I myself like dieselpunk much better, and I hope it becomes a thing in the near Sup Forums future.

Dieselpunk

most 'steampunk' stuff isn't even punk. they're all about defeating the evil empire over yonder rather than rebelling against your own government

>What makes Steampunk the most used of all punks out there?- 11 posts and 2 image replies shown.
Because it is all style and zero fucking substance the grand majority of the time.
>top hats and cogs and dirigibles!
There is zero notice of any of the actual social commentary that the -punk title would denominate. Cyberpunk plays into the decline of human individuality and rights as governments are subsumed by megacorporations controlling the very limbs on your body. Dieselpunk forces us to come to grips with the reality of our environment as smog clutters massive concrete buildings and recognize the conflict of nature and human development. Hell, atompunk at least gives us commentary about fear of the atom, developing science, and a fearful peace sustained only by MAD. That the behind the white-picket fences lie deeply rooted issues brought to light by an easier world.
Steampunk does fucking nothing and the worst part is that it easily could. It is wasted potential. It could focus on the classes and masses who reap no real benefit from machines but are forced to toil to fuel them. It could be about racial tensions and how different civilizations react to the new development and how the world could change based on who got it and how. Hell, it could even be about not blindly trusting science to save you and be about humanity rivaling the developments, that skill and strength fighting beat out the machines. But no, because steampunk is kept alive by a bunch a fucking reddit faggots who do it only so they can feel like 'gentlemen' by giving their shitty OCs cogs on their fedoras and titles in an aristocracy that should be as bloated and inbred as they are. So instead nearly every steampunk setting is just a fucking powerfantasy so some shitter can feel good when the entire point of a -punk setting is to unsettle the consumer as much as they enjoy it.

>rather than rebelling against your own government
Punk does not necessarily mean you rebel against the government. Punk can be rebelling against any kind of tradition or standard, official or not. A -punk setting will always be about social commentary but the government need not always be the focus. Hell, cyberpunk is the second most popular and has nothing to do with governments proper and only about private companies and organizations subsuming the role of government.

>no solar punkj

Cyberpunk lost all its charm once it became everyday reality for us.

I have an idea for a Dieselpunk videogame I want to make, but it probably won't be around for many years yet.

Now that xenophobic alarmism has actually infected the progressive thoughtsphere I foresee some more punk stories about foreign evil empires puppeting domestic society

>looks like it
>there are people on this board too young to have seen the Rocketeer

christ i'm depressed now...

I have no idea what you are talking about.

I remember it was one of the first soundtracks I bought on CD.

Steam punk sucks. It's just twats hot gluing copper and tubes to shit

Like magic, it's different enough from past and present technology to capture people's imagination. We have plenty of computers and engine powered machines but not a lot of giant steam engines and fictional devices like steam rifles.

Also dweebs like the aesthetic of everything brass plated or with unnecessary leather straps and gears randomly attached.

Oh boy here we go, thread #27942 of 'why I hate steampunk'

Just filter the word you thin-skinned snowflakes

It got popular first I guess. Also I guess it sorta helps it's completely fantasy. Diesel punk might be hard because we still use a lot of diesel technology. So it's just exaggerated modern tech...and leather jackets. I don't even know what biopunk is.

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>steampunk
>has elves

thats steamphantasy
like shadowrun is cyberphantasy

That's an asinine way to categorize it because the presence or less of fantasy elements has nothing to do with the "-punk"ness of the work. As long as your work has the essence of steampunk it's still steampunk.

Whatever it is it reminds me that I want another Arcanum game. Why the fuck didn't Tim Cain jump on the kickstarter bandwagon?

>tfw you realize that cyberpunk got superseded by steampunk
What happened?

when you consider what punk is
and that its about the disparity in social classes
and the rejects of society.

a cyberpunk adventure may have amazing tech
but a good cyberpunk story wont use deus ex machina to solve the conflicts in the story.

adding fantasy elements to anything punk, adds more danger in resulting to the "oh ill just use this one spell I conveniently seemed to have on me without any sort of explanation" way of solving conflicts.
fantasy elements often lead to mary sueism

I think delineating between stuff with spells and elves versus stuff that isn't is a perfectly sound way of categorizing genres

He works for Obsidian and took part in making Pillars of Eternity.

don't say it user.

you know any "bandwagon" game is going to be a simplified corruption of the previous source material.

its not that you want another arcanum.
you want another steampunk crpg.

Biopunk is too weird and gross for kids, so you don't see a lot of cartoons with those elements.

And I guess there's too much pollution or some shit in Dieselpunk.

No I want Tim Cain Jason Anderson and Leonard Boyarsky to go all in on another RPG. A steampunk RPG is a shallow as hell concept that would almost inevitably be fucked up by anyone else. I just don't get why those guys haven't even tried to use Kickstarter to get the band back together. If Schaffer can get millions to make broken promises surely they could get enough to make something halfway decent.

The difference between magic and science is absolutely null in stories, you can have deus ex machina with or without spells.

>I have this magical spell that fixes my problem. It's magic, don't ask about it.
>I have this technological supercomputer\gadget\body mod that fixes my problem. It's superadvancedtechnology, don't ask about it.

Also, "punk" as "society's scum" is what punk means in Cyberpunk. The "punk" in "Steampunk" mean "historical cynism". Steampunk looks at the past and points out its hypocrisies, it corrupts past thinking with a modern edge. Often lightheartedly, but not always.

Would biopunk be like GATTACA or is that closer to cyberpunk?

What is the essense of steampunk? What punk elements are in steampunk, if any? All it is, is a silly aesthetic. There are very, very few steampunk settings that actually try to say something beyond le quirky tophats and monocles. What are the social ramifications of steam technology in any of the posts above? None, because its just a dumb excuse to use the same braindead aesthetics.

if the story isn't about the man, and trying to stick it to him. then the story aint punk

Yep. Anything related to genetic engineering or biological body modification generally falls under biopunk

>Anything related to genetic engineering or biological body modification generally falls under biopunk

I usually just congregate that with cyberpunk. They both tend to crop up in the same setting, 80s influenced sci-fi dystopias. Like Batman Beyond's setting is pure cyberpunk but splicing is considered biopunk. I get the point of the distinction but they're two sides of the same coin.

It has a cool aesthetic, so it's a good fit for visual media.
Also it evokes 19th century adventure and sci-fi stories like Lost World and Jules Verne stuff.
For contrast, biopunk is not based on any time period and is just a biological alternative to cyberpunk; and dieselpunk evokes only WW2, which is a very harsh and political time, so unless you're willing to go into politics of fascism, anarchism, colonialism and revolutions, there's no point in even trying.
And politics are hard - Korra tried to do dieselpunk politics and kinda flopped on its face.

Steam Punk is the result of pic related never having been born. This would have resulted in his engineering never perfecting or allowing others to perfect consistency in mechanical engineering.

Biopunk IS cyberpunk. It's a subgenre. Steampunk and dieselpunk are completely separate, but biopunk is not.

One could e.g. write a cyberpunk and a biopunk story, both set in the same world, as long as one would focus on robots or AI, and the other story would focus on cloning and genetic engineering etc aspect of the same world.

Another 'splinter' of cyberpunk is nanopunk, based on nanotechnology. Deus Ex games are a good example, particularly first one and Invisible War.

It's a porn doujin of Naausica, but The Princess Who Loved Insects is one of the best examples of biopunk I can think of

Steampunk my ass; that's aetherpunk. Check stuff like the Kaladesh setting of MtG, but without all the inclusion and muh diversity.

What kind of social commentary could steampunk bring? The victorian era is entirely dead.

Presentation.

And yes, the new Kamen Rider's rival is gothic steampunk based in his theme

That doesn't necessarily mean interesting fantastic takes can't be explored or using it as an analogy for modern issues.

Anything like Horihone Saizous works? I've never really been too sure on what counts as biopunk.

Because steampunk is easy.
>slap on some googles and gears and color it vaguely brass shaded
>dadaa you've got steampunk

Stop debating and post more dieselpunk works.

I don't get it, there's barely any movies with steampunk or dieselpunk in it, yet it's decently popular. The closest I can think of is Dishonored for dieselpunk.
Is steampunk really only popular because of art drawn of it?
If not, what are some good steampunk movies

>>Steampunk is used in dozens of works
It really, really hasn't. It's mostly only popular for bad cosplay or internet bullshit.

>not even remotely complete list of high profile cyberpunk works
>video games
Perfect Dark
Deus Ex
Shadowrun
Rez
Syndicate
Einhander
Frozen Synapse
Neotokyo

>film
Blade Runner
Ghost in the Shell
Akira
The Matrix

>music
Neotokyo JSF and GSDF
Deltron 3030
Vangelis
Clint Mansell
Kenji Kawai

>COMPLETE list of major steampunk works
Wild Wild West starring Will Smith

Tumblrpunk seems most popular atm.

There's also Dishonored and League of Extraordinary Gentlemen for steampunk, but cyberpunk has, also:
games - Metal Gear Solid 2, 4 and Revengeance
Transistor
System Shock 2
Shadowrun Returns, Dragonfall, Hong Kong
Cyberpunk 2077 (upcoming)
Tron 2.0
movies - Robocop, Minority Repoort
music - Machinae Supremacy, Perturbator
tv - Mr Robot
So I think cyberpunk wins.

But to be perfectly fair, OP asked about biopunk and dieselpunk. Though I think dieselpunk is more popular than steampunk - there's Fallout, Legend of Korra, Command and Conquer: Red Alert, Wolfenstein: New Order, Sky Captain and World of Tomorrow, and Bioshock.

I think biopunk is the really obscure one, I can't think of any biopunk works outside of Gattaca and Aeon Flux.

I thought Dishonored was Whalepunk.

thank god Wild Wild West bombed so that Steampunk movies never became a thing.

That's a stupid marketing term they made up that doesn't exist. They claim it's completely unique, but it's literally just dieselpunk that uses whale oil for fuel instead of gas. You don't even see a whale in the first one for chrissake.

Dieselpunk is ugly and boring and no one knows how biopunk works.

>what are some good steampunk movies
Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow
April And The Extraordinary World
The Great Race
20,000 Leagues Under the Sea
Mutant Chronicles
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Steamboy

Nice.

Plenty of old HG wells adaptations

People like Victorian shit because it's a world of optimism without the misery of the 20th century. Dieselpunk comes with the implied horrors of the world wars and biopunk is just /d/-light. Plus autists fucking love goggles.

>Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow
He asked for GOOD Steampunk movies.

Not complete and utter fucking dogshit ones.

Actually I think that you see one in distance being carried by whaling ship during the first game, you also get to see one closer during one of its DLCs.

>Plus autists fucking love goggles.
Hey, proper eye safety is no joke.

>tfw lolipunk is a dead genre
feels bad man

>lolipunk
What

>victorian era
>world of optimism

Sure if you ignore the cholera, smog, 6 year olds working 18 hours a day in factory, non-existent work safety, horrible environmental conditions, political instability, etc.

Fallout is atompunk. That's, you know, pretty fucking obvious.

Remaining in Sup Forums, Atlantis: the Lost Empire has a dieselpunk aesthetic while The Iron Giant is atompunk.

Yes, but why is wearing them? Are any blinding chemicals going to spray out of that umbrella? The only equipment that looks like it's going to spray hazardous shit at you is the backpack, and she's not wearing any thing to protect herself from that, not safety gloves, not a labcoat or even something to protect the baby. Hell, that scarf looks like it's about five seconds from flapping into the machinery and strangling her. She just has goggles because steampunk.

And that one serial killer they never caught.

meant for I'm talking about the overall tone of society. People believed things were possible, that these issues could and would be solved. You'd never get a Victorian going "well terrorism/crime/poverty is just something we're going to have to learn to live with" like modern politicians.

She has goggles because she's going to be flying and it's not good to get things in your eyes when you're flying. I swear, people pick very weird things to hate for no reason.

Don't forget the near unchecked homicide, prostitution and STIs.

Because people associate steam and steam engines the most with the victorian era

The 1800s were defined by the staunch upper lip philosophy of just living with it.
The only "hope" they had was that it wouldn't get any worse it did

>Dieselpunk and Biopunk
????

Dieselpunk is a genre of speculative fiction taking inspiration from period of 1920s-1940s. That includes concepts from that period like cars, gasoline, common electricity, world war 2 - and turning this into a story and a setting. It will often involve commentary about war, colonialism, or fascism. Good examples of dieselpunk are Dishonored, Comamnd and Conquer: Red Alert, and Legend of Korra.

Biopunk is a subgenre derived from cyberpunk, except when cyberpunk is about robots, hackers, cyborgs and AI - biopunk is about genetic modification, designer babies and cloning. Good example of biopunk is Gattaca.

Both are pretty obscure genres.

Step aside plebs. Sandalpunk is best punk

Also whatever the fuck Bionicle was

>sandalpunk
the only thing this calls to mind is Toobin' for the arcade and maybe Windjammers.

Out of all the "punks", steampunk is the easiest to make kid-friendly, I would say. That's why there's a lot of steampunk-themed kids movies/comics/cartoons. This is contrary to my favored cyberpunk which usually deals with heavy (and sometimes adult) topics.

Also, people have it in their heads that all it takes to be steampunk are cogs, top hats and airships, especially when it comes to cosplay.

That's my two cents. I never really cared much for steampunk as most people care more about the "steam" part than they do the "punk" part.

What is punk about steampunk or diesel punk?
The term cyber punk made sense because it was high tech and low culture, stories set in the future but focusing on criminal characters. Steam punk is just stories set in a Jules Verne esque world.

Any love for Atompunk?