>On his podcast the BumbleKast, Ian Flynn stated, "I would dare say that if you go through the book since the reboot, you could probably make a case for [Sally and Nicole being in a romantic relationship]." Shortly after the Archie series' cancellation, he confirmed on Twitter that he and Aleah Baker had intentionally written this romance into the book.
>Sally and Nicole Throw in Blaze and you've got my Sanic harem right there.
I mean sure fuck SJW's, but I'll make an exception here.
Isaiah James
>gay convert
More like pathetic neet. She's fucking a hologram. She's basically fucking the doctor from Voyager.
Kayden Gonzalez
I mean. I'm not sure how you could read Spark of Life as anything but a lesbian romance, to be honest. Incidentally, Spark of Life is one of the best Archie Sonic arcs.
Oliver Powell
Ehh, she was a shit character anyways.
Jonathan Sanchez
more like the doctor from Pulseman
Isaiah Wood
>spandex
Luis Reyes
>Sally and Nicole being in a relationship That must really suck for a certain character
Christian Cox
Rock and roll.
Noah Morales
>Shard was erased by the reboot >Sega mandated that Sonic and other game characters can't be in relationships All they have is each other now.
Michael Wilson
Didn't Ian say there was no point adding gay relationships Sonic because it has no point in a childrens comic?
If not, for shame Ian. For shame.
Cooper Bailey
Is it gay to date a hologram?
Also, which podcast was this?
Jose Walker
Reboot-Nicole began as an actual flesh and blood Lynx that died and was reborn as a computer program.
Cooper Richardson
So homosexuality is a transcription error? sounds about right
Ian Lee
what the fuck
Dominic Taylor
Not in that continuity. In the comics after the reboot she is just a computer program although she was originally designed to help her creator's dying daughter, I forget how exactly but it had something to do with scanning her brain or something like that. Nicole looks like that daughter. We don't see very much of her so it isn't sure if Nicole also copied any personality or being gay from the daughter or if that was all acquired by Nicole herself
Julian Moore
That's not what he said at all. He said that Rotor's homosexuality (which was only ever brought up by Penders after he left the book) "wasn't even worth mentioning," because "There was absolutely no canonnical build-up to Rotor’s sexual preference, regardless of what one of the writers might have intended at some point."
Wyatt Moore
There was no "intention" at all. Penders only said that Rotor was gay from out of the blue so he call Ian a bigot for killing off his "implied" lover.
Penders is a strange flesh balloon that fueled by pettiness at this point.
Adam Hernandez
He did say that though on the now-defunct bumbleking forums
Adam Adams
Id fuck Picardo
Asher Murphy
Is it just me or does this feel a little too "obvious" to be real?
I mean, it is the case, but making Sally and Nicole lovers feels too predictable.
Christian White
Better obvious than out of the blue like Iceman
Noah Cook
Rotor said he had an intimate relationship with the Old Knuckles. He was actually supposed to be gay in the future. I hate Penders as much as the next Flynn fan, but the big hint was there.
Leo Richardson
But- but- Sonally!
Jackson Gutierrez
I wish I could fuck my computer.
Jaxon Nguyen
Make sense. SEGA doesn't want anyone BUT Amy to have a relationship with Sonic.
Ethan Cook
"Relationship"... right. You mean comedy routine.
Evan Myers
>Sonally is dead for good How sad. Now it's time for best girl to get Sonic in the new comic
Jacob Morales
If by relationship you mean stalking him and threatening him with a hammer.
Nathaniel White
Watch as they take the Fleetway route and lesbo her out again.
Bentley Watson
Spats, pham.
Brody Bailey
Hey, Amy & Tekno only happened because Fleetway Sonic was a bit of a douche.
When was the last time that even happened?
Jacob Rivera
Eh. Boom Sonic is a "bit of a douche." Fleetway Sonic was full-blown asshole. Probably the only version of the character who was willing to openly pick on Tails, the orphaned child who adored him as a hero.
Zachary Gray
Huh
I'm actually not okay with lesbo Sally. It bothers me and I can't articulate why.
Mason Reyes
Yiff in hell
Anthony Cruz
>lesbian relationships in a Sonic the Hedgehog comic
This is one of the reasons why SEGA imposed those mandates and eventually took the IP to IDW. People who play the videogames now (the audience SEGA wants reading the comic) do not care about characters from a western cartoon made 20 years or intimate relationships in Sonic.
Now that the Freedom Fighters are out of the picture, Sonic isn't tied down to a furry superhero team and can just go on normal adventures akin to his games.
Jayden Allen
Maybe because it's yet another previously established character being thrown into the "token appeasement" pit.
Jacob Kelly
The sonic fanbase is trying VERY hard to get IDW to keep the Freedom Fighters, and they're loud enough for it to possibly work.
Also those mandates only apply to game-origintating characters, so dyke Sally is free game
Camden Hernandez
It's because those damn SJWs are forcing us to accept the gay agend in the Sonic comic & you know better than to be okay with this horrendously forced nonsense!
Jk. In all honesty, Ian never said Sally & Nicole were in a relationship. What he actually said on his podcast was that people can say they like each other if they want, but he's really just done with shipping. He's also known for fucking with Sonic fans A LOT, so I wouldn't take everything he says on Twitter at face value either.
Except It's Sally, who was barely consistent in her relationships already.
Caleb Miller
My dick agrees with this, and its not like Sega would allow her to be with Sonic anyway.
Justin Morales
Your dick is an idiot, but that is true.
Josiah Bailey
>Except It's Sally, who was barely consistent in her relationships already. You have a point, but that's almost reason to be MORE careful with pairing her. She's gaining quite the reputation.
Daniel Lewis
squirrels are made for lewd
Ryder Sanchez
Even if the Freedom Fighter do appear in the IDW comic, they aren't going to be the main focus like in Archie. Instead, they're going to be a team that Sonic and his other game-originating friends help out when the situation arises.
Sonic, Tails, Amy, etc aren't going to be actual members of the Freedom Fighters, they're just friends who go on adventures and fuck up Eggman and other big bads.
Sonic isn't the kind of guy who would commit himself to a team anyway, he's too cool for that.
Joshua Ward
I wouldn't even think about arguing with you.
Dominic Richardson
No, THESE are spats, senpai.
Jacob Johnson
I remember somebody asked him about it on twitter at one point and said he was open to the idea, but SonAlly shippers would pretty much go nuclear.
Nicholas Sanchez
If you're trapped in the 1800's, maybe.
Cooper Smith
I think of all the Archie gang Ill miss Nicole most of all.
Wyatt Lopez
Well, she is one with the smallest likelihoods of ever coming back, given she's an actual original creation of theirs, sans name.
Owen Carter
This is suddenly relevant: imgur.com/a/I5OLi Skip to the fourth and final pages.
Luis Wilson
>look we made hot lesbians! Aren't we sooo brave and progressive!
Jack Davis
Ian never said they were lesbians. Have your (You)
Cooper Gonzalez
My hope for IDW comics is that they are gonna make a great Team Dark dynamic eventually.
Lucas Gray
Yeah, they where one of the best parts. Somehow they just balance out so perfectly to cancel out the edge and deviant art crap
Grayson Davis
One of Sonic's biggest issues is the bazillion incarnations of the character. If you sat 10 Sonic fans in a room they all could potentially have completely (equally valid) interpretations about who Sonic is.
It's going to be nice to have a clean slate but there's going to be so many people pissed off whichever direction they choose to go in.
Hudson Morgan
>[Sally and Nicole being in a romantic relationship]
She's taken nearly every kind of dick and now she has her eyes on a literal 2d waifu. Jesus can anyone stop this slut?
When will her lust be satiated?
Ian King
That's basically what they do in the games they appear in as well. Rouge is like a really good foil to Shadow's brooding ass and Omega's killbot routine. No wonder people like to pair Shadow with Rouge.
Jack Smith
This. After Shadow's game, I feel like this was the best path for his character arc to take. It sucks '06 turned out the way it did, because I would have loved more stories of Team Dark doing black ops missions for G.U.N. and the commander telling Shadow he's a loose cannon who doesn't play by the rules.
Austin Collins
Fleetway Sonic is probably my favorite interpretation of Sonic. It's a much more interesting dynamic than youtube.com/watch?v=QV8sWUmzNXM
Andrew Richardson
Shadow's story in '06 was like one of the few good things about the game. Really drove home the whole companion thing with the three.
Though I have a soft spot for them fucking around like joining up in Riders just so Shadow can show other people up and Rouge can steal shit.
Jonathan Campbell
It's a shame TMS has the rights to the other half of the best Rouge pairing.
Bentley Morgan
I bet that was what fueled SEGA's idea for Sonic and Elise.
Connor Bell
If there's one thing Sonic X did right it was stylizing the humans and Sonic characters to fit pretty well together.
Noah Morgan
Sally won't stop until she fucks every kind of being under the sun
>Shadow & Rouge is best Rouge pairing >Not Knuckles & Rouge brb, gonna throw my mother into a wall
Carter Watson
Elise was just a modernization/redesign that appeals more to Japanese audiences of Sonic's originally planned girlfriend.
Ian Baker
Knuckles and Rouge was nice on paper, but then the dudes at sonic team spend more time developing Rouge and Shadow's relationship in spin-offs and main games that it might as well not have existed in SA2.
Samuel Ortiz
That's not fair. Every interpretation of Sonic is more interesting than Sonic Team's vanilla "Just a guy who likes adventure!" shtick.
Ryder Thomas
That gives me some Roger and Jessica Rabbit vibes.
Owen Long
Wow, I forgot how spectacularly shit Heroes' Tails voice actor was.
Ayden Garcia
It's a good thing he's only relentlessly screeching in your ear for a quarter of the game.
Michael Reed
Not surprising. Same origin. They both hail back to Tex Avery classic cartoons.
Camden Hall
I just couldn't stand Tails' voice and switched to the Team Dark one. That's still Rouge's first VA from SA2 voicing her there, right?
Jason Walker
Yeah I think Shadow the Hedgehog was the start of them using the 4kids cast consistently.
They kept changing Tail's voice actor because they kept using actual little kids who would mature faster than they could crank out the games.
Matthew Ward
Pretty sure. It does sound like her.
Samuel Torres
Poor Optimus.
Landon Russell
I actually liked her 4kids voice. It at least sounded more 'professional' in quality.
Caleb Richardson
Did he say something about IDW hiring him?
Gavin Gomez
4kids is such a mixed bag in the voice department. Sometimes they sound professional, sometimes they are directed to have stupid accents because they don't think characters are interesting enough without everything being a damn stereotype.
Blake Roberts
And sometimes they have Susan Blu, and its really really good.
Eli Evans
thats not Knuckles
Nicholas Rogers
If there's one good thing about the Shadow the Hegdgehog game, its that it was Shadow's final resolution of his angst, making him pretty much to only character since Tails in SA1 to get character development. For such an edgy game, it results in Shadow shaving off his edge, to just blunt. Shadow becomes a better character when he LOSES his main character trait, think about it.
Leo Barnes
In my headcanon, if there was ever a remake of Sonic 06, there would be a non-alternate Blaze take Elise's place.
Anthony Morris
Sonaze shipper, eh?
Oliver Murphy
Here we have a princess with fire powers (from another dimension, or a fire future). Then, there is another princess with a fire demon inside of her. It just makes sense.
Matthew Clark
I mean I would probably greater accept a Sonic/Elise relationship if Elise was also an animal, and would give Blaze a reason to be there. Literally nobody but Silver ever talks tp or acknolwedges the existence of Blaze in 06.
Levi Gray
Which one was she?
Elijah Johnson
She was voice director on TMNT 2K3.
Nathaniel Sullivan
Rouge and Knuckles just come off as a discount Batman and Catwoman. It's fun but there's no meat to it and Knux will never give up his guardian schtick.
Shadow on the other hand actually seems to change a lot more for her and he keeps her thief habbits in line. They have more a sense where they need each other
Robert Carter
Listen just because Sally or Korra or that kid from the Loud House want to plough a girl doesn't mean she's a lesbian. There's nothing wrong with a little girl-on-girl! I'm from Nebraska and over here we call that Thursday Night Strawberry Yogurt
Ayden Brooks
but rouge and shadow are on the same side, batman and catwoman frequently aren't
I did like the time Amy successfully shamed Shadow into not betraying Blaze.
Thomas Cook
Feh, they're more like brother and sister. And other brother.
Rouge is the older sister making sure her two idiot siblings don't blow themselves up.
Lincoln Mitchell
you sound like the knucklesxrouge autist now you know the one
Connor Sanchez
>Shadow on the other hand actually seems to change a lot more for her and he keeps her thief habbits in line. They have more a sense where they need each other. I think it also showed in the past games.
Lincoln Bennett
>in spin-offs and main games Actually I remember teasing for both Rouge and Knuckles, and Rouge and Shadow pairings in the games.
It was the comics that tried to focus more on Shadow and Rouge, specially before the reboot, as Knuckles was already "married"
Julian Ramirez
>teasing
This. There was no development for the pairings, except for teasing and the usual fanservice... of which I mostly remember RougeKnuckles
Josiah Perez
A sad individual.
I do think they make sense, but I also know the games will never ever do anything, so why bother?
Hudson Kelly
Didn't realize they announced an IDW book. Is there any clue on who they mean by "been speaking with beloved Sonic fan-favorite creators and new creators alike,"?
I assume Flynn is the one everyone wants. Was Spaz still working on the books at all?