MARVEL / DC UNIVERSE

These threads are always fun. Let's imagine the Marvel Universe and the DC Universe become one. How would the characters interact and the big events play out?

Starting with some of my favorites from these threads.

>Apokolips vs Asgard! Darkseid has defeated Odin and enslaved the Asgardians! Can Thor defeat Darkseid in a fight and save the Golden City?

>Secret Origins! Who is the most dangerous of Ra's al Ghul two young pupils? Bruce Wayne or Victor Von Doom?

>Daredevil VS. Lex Luthor, the Kingpin of Metropolis!

>Atlantis Attacks! Even with the help of the Amazons of Themyscira, can Aquaman defends his city against Namor, the real Monarch of the Seven Seas? Also in this issue: who is the father of Aquaman? Namor!

>A blast from the past! Captain America and his Justice Society fights the villainous Red Skull! Also, how the Ultra-Humanite turned Hitler into the Hate Monger!

>The Fantastic Four vs the Fatal Five! Human Torch, the new member of the Legion of The Superheroes! Who is smarter, Brainiac or Mister Fantastic?

>Sins Past! Spider-Man faces a familiar villain from his childhood, his neighbour BUENO EXCELLENTE!

>War Planet Hulk! The Green Gladiator faces Mongul in the arena!

>Is Flash an Inhuman? In this issue Flash and The Inhumans invade Gorilla City searching for answers!

>Weird Western Tales: Jonah Hex faces the Phantom Rider in a duel at midnight! The loser becomes the new Ghost Rider!

>Annihillation! The Green Lantern Corps must face Annihillus and it's hordes to save the universe! The death of the Nova Corps!

>The Death of Superman! Can Superman survive Death and her lover Thanos?

>Giant-Size Swamp Thing! Swamp Thing journey trough the Nexus of Realities and find an unexpected oponent: Captain Britain, champion of the Omniverse!

>In Blackest Night: The power ring has a new wielder and his name is Doctor Doom!

>Casualties of War! The Punisher comes for an old friend... Deathstroke!

>Wayward sons: Red Hood, Winter Soldier and Kaine cross paths!

>Wolverine: Batman's father? The truth behind the Waynes' trip to Madripoor!

>Catfight: Catwoman and Black Cat have the same mark: The Sanctum Sanctorum!

>Arsenal under the influence! Starfox teaches how love can be a drug!

>Mutants Lives Matter! Green Arrow advocates for mutant rights, but someone isn't happy: MAGNETO!

>The Deadliest Catch: The Collector hires Lobo to steal the Silver Surfer's board!

>The Avengers face their greatest challenge yet: Plastic Man's membership interview!

>Right on the mark? Bullseye joins the Suicide Squad!

>A battle for honor: Katana faces the Silver Samurai! Will Wolverine meet his end against the Soultaker sword?

>Justice for all: Matt Murdock defends Funky Flashman in the court! Who is he up against? Kate Spencer!

>Plastic Man, Miss Martian, Firestorm and Citizen Steel: The New Fantastic Four!

>The Lost Weekend: When Hal Jordan hits on Emma Frost!

>War Above the Skies! Darkseid invades Attilan! What's more powerful: Black Bolt or the Anti-Life itself?

>Clash of the Titans! Lex Luthor and Doctor Doom face off in the greatest battlefield of all: The chessboard!

>A Deal With the Devil: Felix Faust is back and under Mephisto's control! Only Zatanna and Ghost Rider can prevent him from stealing Spear of Destiny!

>Girls Night Out: Cassandra Cain and X-23 go to the movies! Guest-starring Deadpool!

>A touch of Chaos: Rogue touches Mr. Bones! The X-Men caught by the DEO!

>New World Order! Doctor Doom, Magneto, Namor, Black Adam and Bane form their own political coalition!

>Midnight Run: Hawkman and Bruce Banner handcuffed together in Mexico! Banner can't get stressed! Hawkman can't get calm! The Juggernaut is on their trail!

>Trading Places: Superman and Wolverine switch bodies! Sabretooth is out for blood! Mr. Mxyzptlk is out for chaos! Lois Lane is out of town! It gets worse: Lana Lang is single and ready to mingle!

>Mutants Lives Matter! Green Arrow advocates for mutant rights, but someone isn't happy: MAGNETO!

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>>Mutants Lives Matter! Green Arrow advocates for mutant rights, but someone isn't happy: MAGNETO!
Amazing

I'm more concerned over the kind of cool one on one matchup we'd get to see, like Marvel hero vs DC villain, DC hero vs marvel villain, etc. Which fight would you be the most interested in seeing.

I'd want to see how batman fights against kingpin personally.

>>Mutants Lives Matter! Green Arrow advocates for mutant rights, but someone isn't happy: MAGNETO!

I demand an ongoing.

>Galactus would be the cause of Krypton's destruction.
>The Eternals and Deviants would be offshoots or colonist from New Genesis and Apokolips.
>The Fourth World splitting into New Genesis and Apokolips would be caused the Celestials.
>The Nova Corps would be an another attempt by the Controllers to compete with the Guardians.
>Captain Comet would've one the first recruits for the X-Men.
>Specter would make the "Spirit of Vengeance" Ghost Rider redundant.
>Avenger and JLA line-ups might be different (Batman being an Avenger, Captain America being a member of the JLA).
>Dr. Strangefate should be the one Amalgam character to actually exist.
>Watchers would be another off-shoot of the Oans.
>The Green Lantern Corps would've gotten involved in the Kree/Skrull wars.
>Tony Stark and Bruce Wayne are business partners.The whole thing with Hal Jordan and Parallax didn't happen. Instead the Annihilation Wave took out the GLC, Oa, and most of the Guardians, and the central power battery, leaving Ganthet with a lone ring and battery to make Kyle Rayner the last GL and host for Ion.

A staple of the Marvel U, especially early on, was the aspect of "the world outside your window", that Marvel comics take place in a real city.

So I figure in a crossover universe, maybe DC characters would live in actual cities instead of fictional one.

There are of course two ways they could do this: having them live in the closest cities geographically or thematically.

So Batman could operate either in Jersey City or Manhattan, Superman could be in either Baltimore or something like Seattle, or... Manhattan.

>Gladiator would be a Daxamite, and Daxam would be a part of the Shi'ar Empire... till Phoenix destroyed it when she ate it's sun.

>Storm and Wonder Woman become best friends.

>Black Panther marries Vixen.

>Wolverine leads the Suicide Squad under Amanda Waller's orders.

>Jubilee is killed during a mission with the Teen Titans.

>Namor and his Atlanteans would be a third race living in Atlantis along side Aquaman's and the merpeople.

>Batman would help out Ironman during the Armor Wars, and the armored Batman that appeared during Knightfall would've been Tony in a bat suit he made to fill in for Bruce while he healed.

>Chameleon Boy from the Legion of Superheroes is a Skrull.

>Lex Luthor as president and Norman Osborn as leader of H.A.M.M.E.R.

>Mongol and Lex Luthor are members of the Cabal

>And Batman and Martian Manhunter are members of the Illuminati

I keep thinking Asgard hanging out on Earth all the time might be the actual reason Darkseid does not want to fuck with it directly but keeps a special interest in it.

>Booster Gold dies with the New Warriors

>J.Jonah Jameson is editor of the daily planet. Wilson Fisk is an influential businessman (and crime lord) in Gotham City.

>Apocalypse and Ra's al Ghul are rivals

>Hawkeye used to be Speedy.

>Dr.Strangefate is a disciple of Arion the Ancient One.

>The Martian Manhunter works as an emissary between the Inhumans and Earth as he is the only nonnative living in Attilan.

>The Blackest Night is a lot more dire because of the sheer presence of dead X-Men.

>Booster Gold actually steals the Quantum Bands and uses them to go back in time and be a hero, as a result he's involved in cosmic affairs more although he is an invaluable asset to Rip Hunter and his efforts to bring an end to the efforts of the Time Criminal known as Kang.

>The Lazarus Pits are thought to have originated due to groundwater pollution following the crash of the alien vessel containing Fin Fang Foom.

>The existence of Asgard comes in to question due to several technological and architectural similarities with New Genesis.

>The Phalanx are led by Brainiac in Annihilation: Conquest.

>A more tame regeneration of Solomon Grundy works as a butler in the Sanctum Sanctorum, his interactions with Wong are comedy gold.

>Despite having no magical ties, a Madrox dupe joins the Trench-coat Brigade.

>Vandal Savage is actually a prototype of the genetic testing the Kree preform on ancient humans that would create the Inhumans.

>Howard the Duck gets a restraining order on the Zoo Crew, because people have stopped thinking he's a midget in a duck costume and that he is a member of the Zoo crew and has powers. He also has been renting out a room in Animal Man's house ever since he and Beverly Switzler moved west so she could get more modeling work.

Namor would be a recurring Aquaman villain. It would be easier to make him the king of the Lemurians that rivals with the Atlanteans and Poiseidonians by being allied with the Deviants.

Norman would be a much better anti-Batman than majority of the anti-Batmen seen before. Ocsorp and Wayne Ent would be the rivals by day. His 10 ton strength range would equal out the crazy training Bruce uses. Both invent new gadgets to try on each other over and over again. Mystero is also a better Bat villain.

>Ray Palmer is an old college friend of Reed Richards and his research helped lead to the discovery of the Microverse and as a result Psycho Man becomes the Atom's arch nemesis.

>The scar on Jonah Hex's face is thought to be attributed to hellfire from a fight with the Phantom Rider.

>Mogo's antisocial behavior is thought to be attributed to his cousin Ego.

>The Daily Bugle goes bankrupt because of their anti-metahuman campaign and is acquired by the Daily Planet. Perry White is the editor-in-chief, and J. Jonah Jameson is the editor. Peter Parker and Jimmy Olsen are friends, and so are Parker and Clark Kent, who are unaware of eachothers' secret identities. Jameson hates Clark for always disappearing, but can't fire him because he's White's "Golden boy" and married to Lois Lane. Robbie Robertson and Ron Troupe are friends, Steve Lombard is always hitting on Betty Brant, and Cat Grant is currently trying to seduce Parker because she thinks this will help her figure out Spider-Man's secret identity and top Lois by exposing it.

>Captain American and Jim Hammond were part of the All Star Squadron.

>SHIELD and Checkmate are rival organizations.

>Hank Pym was classmates with Will Magnus and Ray Palmer while studying under T.O. Morrow

>Deathstroke is the result of a failed attempt to reproduce the Supersoldier Program that turned Steve Rogers into Captain America, and is one of the Captain America's enemies. In an effort to rehabilitate Deathstroke's daughter, Ravager, Captain America takes her in and convinces her to join the Young Avengers.

>Nick Fury and Joe Rock were Army buddies, and both continued to be young after taking the Infinity formula. After Fury is forced to step down after the Secret War, Rock becomes the new director of SHIELD.

Metallo's all adamantium form makes for an actually decent physical match for Superman.

Oan Lantern Rings might be an imperfect replica of Epoch's Quantum Bands and used for the exact same purpose.

>The Hulk and Captain Atom were created by the same blast. Bruce Banner develops the Gamma Bomb for the government in order to test the durability of the dilusteel capsule they created, but isn't told that there will be a live human test subject, Captain Nathaniel Adams, inside the capsule. Banner rushes out to the site in an attempt to save Adams but is too late and gets caught in the blast, thus becoming the Hulk. Some time later, Adams reappears, having become Captain Atom and gets put to work for General Ross as a first-line anti-Hulk weapon. Captain Atom's ability to control radiation, as well as his strength and durability, make him the Hulk's strongest enemy.

>Ages ago, Teth Adam defended the land of Egypt from the menace of Apocalypse. It was during these troubled times that Adam's heart was hardened and he eventually became Black Adam. His tyrannical rule over the ancient world was at last brought to an end by Thor. The two titans were too evenly matched in power, prompting Thor to used Mjolnir's magic to banish Black Adam to a distant realm. Centuries later, Loki summons Black Adam back from exile to engage his brother in battle once again. Thor is aided this time by Black Adam's heroic successor, Captain Marvel.

Would the Guardians just be replaced with a single member napes The Guardian and is also a member of the Elders? Could be Ganthet.

>Norman Osborn becomes Lex Luthor's running mate, with the tacit support of an early version of the Cabal which includes Doctor Doom, Ra's Al Ghul, Vandal Savage and the Leader. Namor is invited to join the group but declines, pre-occupied with a civil war in Atlantis lead by his cousin Aquaman.

>Secret War happens around the same time as this, with Fury uncovering evidence linking the two to Latveria, the League of Shadows and AIM/Hydra with Intergang and the Kingpin as intermediaries. However, Fury is driven underground before he can reveal this information to the public and fails to stop them reaching the White House, he bides his time planning retribution with covert support from Batman, who is the only person he trusts but not by much.

>Meanwhile, Luthor and Osborne force the SHRA through Congress causing the Civil War. With the Avengers forced into taking the side of the US Government dozens of heroes defect to the Justice League which re-brands itself as the JLI and offers amnesty to fugitive American heroes. Captain America and a small group of heroes stay behind to form the Secret Avengers with support from Nick Fury and Batman, but the JLI finds out about this and kicks Batman out of the League to prevent a conflict with the US Government and the Avengers. Cap is still assassinated but his body is stolen by the League of Assassins, with Luthor's blessing, in hopes that they might find a way to infuse the Lazarus Pits with the properties of the Super Soldier Serum.

>Amanda Waller becomes the Director of SHIELD and forces it to merge with Checkmate. Under pressure from the White House, she begins a thorough investigation of Wayne Corp forcing Batman to devote a lot of time to covering his tracks.

Apocalypse could be the main nemesis of the ancient Egypt crew. His Celestial technology would be a huge problem for them.

Black Adam, Hawkman and Woman, Dr Fate,

Sphynx and Rama Tut could be other villains they tangled with.

This is like a copy pasta thread. The same ideas over and over again. I'm pretty sure 90% of these ARE pasta.

Now I don't want to devolve this thread into arguing about powerlevels but I've been thinking of something that could possibly put some Marvel characters like Thor more on par with say Superman.

From what I understand gods in the DC universe are shown as stronger than the Marvel ones but are reliant on worship to exist whereas Marvel gods are made from belief but can exist without continuous worship.

So since this is a combined universe then divine characters should be in some kind of halfway point in terms of powers and abilities.

Maybe something like when Thor starts out his hero career his strength is about the same as when he started in the comics but as he helps people the more of them start to "believe" in him causing his powers to slowly grow, eventually making him one of the top tier powerhouses.

Thoughts?

Ganthet might be invited to join The Elders of the Universe as The Guardian after the rest of the Oans are wiped out when the Annihilation Wave hits Oa.

>Aquaman and Namor are cousins, their Atlantean mothers were sisters and both part of the royal family.

>Namor grew up in Atlantis, being shunned and hated for his half-breed heritage, fueling his rage and hatred of his fellow Atlanteans. He was also a mutant, and used his incredible strength to become Atlantis' first super-villain.

>Aquaman, meanwhile, was raised on the surface and came to know his true heritage much later. He was begrudgingly accepted as a legitimate heir to the throne but won the approval of the ruling council when he defended Atlantis against Namor, employing his own mutant gifts to telepathically command sea creatures.

>Aquaman has since become king of Atlantis, while Namor became an outlaw. They have both spent time as surface heroes, joining the JLA and Avengers respectively, despite Namor's criminal status in Atlantis.

I would read the shit out of a comic about the Black Adam, the Hawks, and Nabu warring against Apocalypse, Sphinx, and Rama Tut.

I think it's more about ideas that people have already had so someone doesn't suggest that Pa Kent and Captain Ameriva served together in WWII again.

The Orange Lantern Avarice entity manages to possess Galactus, who then tries to consume the universe.

>>Specter would make the "Spirit of Vengeance" Ghost Rider redundant.
ghost rider could just revert to being hells bounty hunter and a minor spirit of vengeance given how little power he has compared to the spirit

How would Bane play out in the MCU? Would he still be a big guy?

throw moon knight into that too

I think these threads could be better if they go further than thinking of just one or two kinds of Marvel/DC Earth.

Like imagine an Earth where only the Ditko-created and co-created Marvel/DC heroes and villains exist. Spider-Man, Captain Atom, Ted Kord, The Question, Doctor Strange, the Creeper, Hawk and Dove, the 1970's Shade the Changing Man, the Prince Gavyn Starman, Squirrel Girl, etc. What would that Earth be like without the presence of the Avengers or Justice League?