Why is Nazism so prominent is modern comics when Communism was more recent and resulted in over 10 times the deaths?

Why is Nazism so prominent is modern comics when Communism was more recent and resulted in over 10 times the deaths?

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because Jews write comics

or atleast they did

Its just trends, Communism was the big bad during the Cold War, right now theres a fach scare going around, so nazis are back

Because its the hot button issue right now and comics don't have integrity or creativity anymore.

Because liberals run the show currently and they lean more Communist. Nazism and Communism are like oil and water. With Communism being the oil.

These people don't even know what fascism is

Because Nazis were the last enemies that America was able to punch away. Sure you have resurgences and people that hold on to the virtues, that you call "neo nazis", but America never managed to stamp out communism, and you don't call people that hold those virtues as "neo commies"

Because communism is good in theory while fascism isn't.

Well, one of two reasons:
>The Nazis overtly hated. The Communists, although clearly hating the wealthy, do so in a manner that was less publicized than the Holocaust. That, and most people hate the "Big Bad Greedy" character that communism paints as their rival in the first place
>Most if damn near all comic book writers are Liberals. They view Communists as "misguided cousins with the right idea" while they few anything right of the 2nd Amendment as Devil worship

Communism isn't good in theory lmao

Because capitlaism killed even more people in places like korea and nam you fucking retard

Is Captain America retarded? Why is he punching a picture of Hitler?! He's not there

>atleast

More fascism has occurred under communism than one single nation's single instance.

what

this thread isn't about capitalism

Because ANTIFA rules America now.

Communism and fascism is not mutually exclusive. Rather the opposite. Communism lends itself to fascism much more easily.

Antifa/ggots/ can't even hold down a job

Your grandparents died fighting the nazis just so you can defend them later in a world made possible only through their sacrifice.

Let's be real. Communism doesn't work, Fascism works

because people are more willing to except simplistic good vs evil narratives where the evil ideology is fascism, Nazism even more so.

Its a bit harder to vilify communism especially when you have to simply ideologies for the audience, at worst communists come off as well intentioned idealist, I mean there primary concerns are things like the plight of the working man and economic equality, where simplistic Nazi goals are seems as things like imperialism and racial purity

Because the big bad of communism - the USSR had the chance to fail and show the entire world how much of a failure it was, nazi Germany, on the other hand was pretty much killed in its infancy.

Also, there's that whole resurgence of far-right populism, which these comics are so very glad to "comment" on.

Fuck I meant to type communism

Fucking this. Nazism isn't hated because they are fascists. Nazis are hated because they are evil white men. Nazism would be more accepted if they got rid if the whole racial purity aspect (while keeping everything else awful about them.)

>Communism and fascism is not mutually exclusive. Rather the opposite. Communism lends itself to fascism much more easily.
Right, that's totally why Hitler wanted commie support instead of their heads on pikes

My grandpa wanted the Nazis to win dude

Your grandparents were fools

The US was never in open, popularly supported war with the USSR. And the Nazis are still perceived as competent and stylish, while Communists are veiwed now as generally poor and incompetent at anything that wasnt space or nukes.

Because americans defeated the nazis but not the communists, the communism died for its own stupidity. But America actually fought against the nazis in the biggest war ever, and they won and they came back stronger and victorious.

There literally aren't any Nazis around anymore barring the American Nazi Party and the KKK. Both have such low membership numbers, both combined are probably less than a thousand worldwide.

Because the Nazi's stated goal was murder.

Is that why ANTIFA spits at those same grandparents for being "fascist nazis" then?

>Antifa
>Fighting Nazis
Good one. user, I respect the trash cans

Comics were heavily written by Jews. Naturally they'd hate Nazis more.

This is like asking why Chinese media demonizes imperial Japan.

In theory, Capitalism is good.
In theory, Communism is good.
In theory, Fascism is good.

What a meaningless statement to make.

This is called a red herring.

Two fascists can be in opposition to each other. In fact, they are LIKELY to be in opposition to each other.

Whether or not Hitler gets along with someone does not determine if they are fascist or not. For example Stalin. As you pointed out.

Its more like Communism doesn't work with human beings. Its a brilliant system, problem is 90% of people are petty children who can't care about anything other than themselves.

There is a reason that some of the most prolific and industrious creatures to ever evolve on this plant evolved to naturally be communist

>Nazism would be more accepted if they got rid if the whole racial purity aspect (while keeping everything else awful about them.)

Well yeah? Without the racial purity angle you'd have a fundamentally different movement/political party altogether. At that point it'd just be more expansionism/colonialism. They'd still be the bad guys, but they wouldn't be more hated then, say, Britain. I don't know why you're saying this like you're calling people out or something, they were evil because of the racist bullshit in addition to annexing countries.

>people are petty children who can't care about anything other than themselves.
That isn't petty or childish. It's called every living thing on this planet does this and if they don't they die.

Gee I wonder (((who))) runs the comic industry just like every other entertainment industry in the west

What is she even holding up at the end?

>In theory, Communism is good.
not communism isn't good in theory.

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Because the left committed the "great lie" and framed Nazis as "right wing", despite Nazism and Fascism being Socialism taken to it's zenith. Since their cognitive dissonance doesn't allow them to portray Socialism as "evil", and since they've already established their lie, "Nazis" are all they have left.

How do you know his grandparents didn't have bone spurs?

I have two actually

this

If you don't care for other than you're a shitty human being.

yeah that's why over 50% of all insects alive on Earth are things like Ants and Bees, insects that basically evolved into natural communism, despite the fact that such insects only represent 5% of all insect species.

>If you don't care for other

Nazis have always been an easy pure evil.

After the fall of the USSR the view of Communism has become more morally gray so it's easier to just go with what everyone will always call the bad guys.

Everyone laugh at this retard who goes UH ITS NATIONAL *SOCIALISM* ITS THE SAME THING AS COMMUNISM like this isn't a tired argument that's been disproven many times

This is the edit of a pro-antifa comic where the girl faces a buff man in a weight lifting competition, she just breaks his knees

>It's called every living thing on this planet does this

Factually false, many living things are coded to fuck your face if you step to their children, even if you're bigger than them.

And humans, as social animals, benefit more from cooperation than selfishness.

Communism has a decent goal even if it's a horrible disaster when actually put into practice. Nazism is an idea that's easier to agree is bad.

Where is Nazism prominent in modern comics? I mean a lot of modern characters have their origins in outright WW2 propaganda which obviously featured Nazis as the villain. Since then it's been less and less prominent.

If you mean Secret Empire, HYDRA genuinely aren't Nazis but they have a lot of associated characters who were to do with the literal Nazis. Which is why there are Nazis there.

And communism was the villain in plenty of comics too. But it was more prominent when the USSR was still around.

Is there any way to get the mods to do their fucking jobs?

They have been deleting threads today but the user that makes these is completely fucking autistic and will keep resetting IP and posting. Occasionally he loses his temper and makes a thread just outright bitching at the mods too.

>yeah that's why over 50% of all insects alive on Earth are things like Ants and Bees, insects that basically evolved into natural communism,
That's a gross misrepresentation of the structure of bees and insects, which are far more a monarchy than communism. Unless you're trying to put communism in a very terrible light:

The majority of resources in ant and bee colonies is for the queen. The hierarchy. For producing more drones and workers. Not to the workers themselves. The entire colony revolves around the matriarch and the survival of one singular, insular creature in the hive. All others are disposable. That is either not communism, or a very ugly way to describe communism.

even when the Soviet Union was around communism was seem as gray, basically only neo-conservatives like Regan from the 80s actually claimed the Soviets were evil.

Don't get me wrong, Americans saw them as the enemy, but you can see someone as an opposing force or opposing interest without viewing them as literally evil

This doesn't make any sense? Like ifbthe leftist control ebough of society that they can fool people into thinking that a left wing ideology is actually right wing then why would then even label Nazis as bad?

We're discussing comics you SUbhuman

because communism has existed for a long time and there are still a lot of communists out there while nazism is kinda dead and since comics are built around escapism talking about communism might be a tad bit too real

also some of comic's more influential writers were gommunists (or at least anarcho-communists)

>Factually false, many living things are coded to fuck your face if you step to their children, even if you're bigger than them.

Those same animals will kill children that do not belong to them as well.

>humans
Who are evolved chimpanzees. Who routinely do this and will murder and go to war and absolutely destroy other children other than their own.

Protecting their OWN children is protecting their own interests. Not for the child, but because it is to ensure the survival of their own genes. Other non-primate species do this often as well. It's seen throughout nature. Competition drives evolution.

Communism and Fascism, just swap around "for the good of the working class" and "for the good of the fatherland" and you have almost the same ideology and policy prescriptions. Government control, central planning, price control, etc.

have you read kapital ?

it's a pretty good critique of capitalism

Except you're not, retard

You talking about ants/bees/termites? Yeah, communism brings only stagnation. Fuck this, I want to explore space

And the reason why communism doesn't work is that we are not insects. We are mammals. We are social animals yes, but we have our own interests to worry about.

Woops, meant to quote:

Because communism is still around

Russian communism was terrible.

Chinese communism was fine. People always go MUH 10MILLION DEAD ON MAO ZEDONG'S MARCH but under his rule he replaced that number many times over and also brought the literacy rate from like 30% to above 80.

Dude, Communism is the scrawled kindergarten drawing of ideologies.

>ITT Sup Forums argues about things that only economists and political nerds actually understands

>Those same animals will kill children that do not belong to them

Yeah because FUCK other people's children

no that's a fundimental misunderstand of hivemind insects

the breeding slave is called a queen by us and you mistake it for a leader or an elite.

Communism is a good way to drag a country into modernization, kicking and screaming.

Essentially this is how animals are.

>but under his rule he replaced that number many times over and also brought the literacy rate from like 30% to above 80.

literally every country did that at some point in the last 200 years. some countries even did it without getting millions of people killed in the process.

>"1000-year reich"
>lasts 12 years

You can get a lot done when you steal all the wealth and property from everyone and force them at gunpoint to work.

has anyone here actually read Marx aside for the communist manifesto ?

>killed millions of their own people just to make their country slightly less of a shithole

Communism and Fascism are concepts that have meaning beyond "There's a dictator on top"

>lol the nazis wouldve destroyed society and the world
>now excuse me while I watch and jerk off to my childrens cartoon.

>fundimental

yeah animals can't actively progress, although various human attempts at communism generally show very impressive progress in technical fields

Whether you wanna talk about the Soviet space program, or the Cuba medical system, which is basically a world class medical system built on a 3rd world nations budget.

If there is a better system for scientific advancement I'm all for that, but capitalism isn't exactly pro-science, its pro-innovation but someone shouldn't look at the theory of general relativity and ask, how do we sell it?

then why are there places in africa, the Middle East and south east Asia that have an extremely terrible literacy rate ?

Yet the entirety of the redistribution of resources is centered around the queen. The "good" of the workers is irrelevant to the well-being of the hive. Only the well-being of the queen is relevant to the survival of the hive.

It doesn't need to be a ruler or elite to know that the workers are not the ones whose well-being is put last and are expected to die for just one individual. All the work of the workers is for the benefit of one singular ant or bee. They are successful because in evolution, this works for that species because it ensures that they can reproduce faster than their workers are depleted.

True, but back in the day anything remotely related communism would be called pure evil. Let's not forget the good old McCarthy trials.

>reading marx to understand communism
Has anyone read about Robert Owen's experiment at New Harmony?

Lysenkoism.

Mao was awful, the man clearly had no clue what he was doing and then just blamed random groups of people, like intellectuals

I'm not a huge fan of China's current government but its better than Mao's dream of everyone being a peasant farm worker

>It doesn't need to be a ruler or elite to know that the workers are not the ones whose well-being is put last
Sorry, I meant to say it doesn't need to be a ruler or elite for us to understand that the workers are not the ones whose well-being is put first. Rather, their well-being is put last.

Nazis are much more directly evil.

Also. Petty?! Look bro, living in a ant society sucks, I don't want to dedicate my life to support the state, I have my own ambitions and I want to invest on them, like traveling to various places, in communism this is considered luxury, therefore unnecessary go back work

Someones not familiar with some of the completely insane batshit looney science the soviets got up to
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The comparison of communism is being made to ants and bees.

Both of which do not feel, think or have emotions.

Humans do. The suffering of bees and ants is irrelevant because they can't and don't feel suffering.

Humans can and do. This is why communism doesn't work. Humans are expected to not feel suffering. When it's in our biology to avoid suffering at all costs to our own person.

Ants and bees have a far weaker instinct towards this self preservation. And communism blames this basic instinct of self preservation as a flaw. Not a strength to why we've been able to evolve and survive so long.

Kill all leftists

.....Why?