/hyw/ - How's Your Webcomic? #395

NEW Edition

Welcome to another thread of How's Your Webcomic, the place where we share the progress and ideas for our webcomic to be. Criticism, advice, idea guys and broken dreams all in one place!

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artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
quickposes.com/pages/timed
senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
shutterstock.com/
pinterest.com/characterdesigh/
tumblr.com/theme/39018
pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV
docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#
discord.gg/rXMbdqP
youtube.com/watch?v=Pb5oIIPO62g
courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf
courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf
courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf
chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/
web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/
blambot.com/
cienciasecognicao.org/rotas/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Robert-McKee-Story.pdf
miss-melee.tumblr.com/post/143483233951/
mediafire.com/folder/9pf1nwwa92lbp/Comics_for_making_Comics
youtube.com/results?search_query=how to draw comics
twitter.com/NSFWRedditGif

Scrub Authors GOODIE Bag
Here’s a short list of sites that any new webcomic artist or writer will find handy:
>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
calligraphr.com

>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
quickposes.com/pages/timed

>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
People: senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
Scenery: shutterstock.com/

>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
pinterest.com/characterdesigh/ (surprisingly not a typo)

>Links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme: tumblr.com/theme/39018
Do’s and Don’ts for starting a site: pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV
>Contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#

>DISCORD CHAT going on:
discord.gg/rXMbdqP

>Wise words from John Cleese:
youtube.com/watch?v=Pb5oIIPO62g

>Invisible Ink:
courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf
courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf
courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf

>Paper Wings
chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/
web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/

>Fonts for your webcomic on Blambot:
blambot.com/

>Writing Resources:
cienciasecognicao.org/rotas/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Robert-McKee-Story.pdf

>Guide to promoting your comic:
miss-melee.tumblr.com/post/143483233951/

>Comics for makin' comics!
mediafire.com/folder/9pf1nwwa92lbp/Comics_for_making_Comics

youtube.com/results?search_query=how to draw comics

We are also running our third challenge! Now fortnightly!

>THEME: post apocalyptic - cartoon - animals
>GENRE: FREE PICK (choose any genre you want on this occasion!)
>DEADLINE: August 13

Remember that you can play with the theme as you see fit, we want to see how creative you can get!

>4 days to go

Well fug

New to drawing as a whole, but I've made a couple ideas in my head a long time ago about a few interesting stories. My question is what do you recommend I use to get started on drawing electronically?

Whatever you want. Some people adapt to drawing with a mouse, other people get a cheap tablet. What matters is you practice both electronically and physically on a regular basis.

You should be drawing, anons.

Then why did you ask us if it flowed or not?
also shit, that is some damn accurate and realistic cuticle bleeding there. I'm picking at mine on that thumb right now
now i'm glawing on it. it's all your fault
it's fun chewing the dead skin though so I guess thank you

I-I am!

What's something that'll make you drop a webcomic? Also would you ever buy a webcomic in print?

>Be me
>Be porn artist for fun
>Am self aware that fetish porn is retarded and how wasting huge amount of money donating on patreons for porn is a fucking joke
>Shit on this dynamic
>Scare away some people that live by these manners
>The people that asked me to make a porn patreon got offended
>I literally insult my followbase of retards
>Have no remorse

I don't care if my real comic makes it into the big leagues or not, I rather die trying than end up like these porn sell outs.

tranny shit
probably not, but I would donate 3-5 bucks for a digital version (or just as a donation). I don't need paper

>What's something that'll make you drop a webcomic?
Terrible storytelling and pacing (Sinfest is so far the only webcomic I dropped for good because of this, the rest even if they don't update regularly I still find myself checking them with hope of seeing them again)

>Also would you ever buy a webcomic in print?
If I really love the webcomic and I have the money for it then sure. I'm kinda sad I didn't manage to get a copy of Let's Speak English when the kickstarter began.

Yeah it sucks how that works out. You'd think they wouldn't sell out so quickly, but they always do

Note to self: maybe I should use a smaller brush size for the character's contours.

The original idea was to make this on full color but now I'm tempted to just run with greys and red. I may as well just for the contrast.

Anyone else not sure what they would like to draw design wise? I usually draw anime style or try and copy the styles of shows i like. But nothing really feels like my own thing yet. I know if you practice you eventually develop on your own, but I wonder what I can do to help things along or create something i like.

Hey OP. Can this thread not shit on other artist's work based on style because neck board user's want cape garbage.

I would appreciate that. Thank you.

The only thing I can say is that you take all what you like from other styles -and your own- until the whole mix becomes your own thing and feel comfortable drawing on it. Don't feel bad if you are drawing animesque and then throw a design that looks a bit more cartoony, I mean, even some mangakas do that intentionally. It all depends of the purpose.

I for one aim more for an animesque design but I still throw some more cartoon-ish than realistic designs if it calls for it.

>dipshit is not playing the game
>He would rather die alone, forgotten in this vast expanding universe.

At least post your portfolio.

Don't worry, Shitposting Hour seems to have moved to the afternoon now, it usually began 3 hours ago.

>people offered to give you money for porn
>shit on them and get no money
>better die poor than live with money

I mean is not as if you were giving away your dignity, you already do porn

>write first draft of script
>let it sit for a couple months
>I hate it now

Back to the drawing board.

I guess its cool to mix both styles then since I do like drawing those a lot, Makes designing characters more fun that way, and it helps with same face problems.

just typed up a chapter (the script itself done later)

whew feels good getting some work done

Maybe just one shade of gray

I actually enjoy doing a wide variety of styles, not having one unified one.

I have none atleast you count a Deviantart/Tumblr and a Sad Panda Gallery as portfolio

One thing is to do commissioned work and another one is to open a Patreon and win money doing absolutely nothing. I don't say patreon is bad, but giving money to artists that draw like shit just because they happen to draw specific fetish type is fucking degrading. I don't want that. Best example that comes to mind is this dude called Shiin who draws macro proportioned work. The guy busts off 4.5k a month drawing some of the lowest artwork I have ever seen.

is the comic supposed to tell a complete story in 3 pages?

>but giving money to artists that draw like shit just because they happen to draw specific fetish type is fucking degrading
literally why? These people want to support you because you are drawing what they enjoy, and the theory is if you have more money you might be less stressed and draw even more of the fetish stuff.

I am not into porn, nor do I care for porn artists, but this support thing works for any kind of artist. They just like what you are doing.

yes, it's a short story

One? Why not 50?
Ok terrible joke, but how about this? Adding black is not bad, is it?

working on pages

I unironically considered your opinion, and opened a half-baked Patreon up lets see what happens...

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Objects against a black background need to be planned out better, to avoid that thin-white-outline around a thick-black-outline. You need to know you'll be putting in a black background, so you can act accordingly.

Obviously black objects like the bat wings and dress should have a white outline, but for other things, the black background should take the place of the black outline.

Pic related is the first suitable example I could find. Note the hair and shoulder in P2, and the hands in P3. Also see panels 8 and 9, where the character is against both a black and white background.

Dig it!
really cool. Reminds me of that guy from before with the colorful holo screens everywhere. What ever happened to him

As long as it's a somewhat cartoony style, I like white outlines around things. It only bothers me if it's more detailed like your example, because yeah then it would feel cheap to have those white outlines

Why does a robutt need a nest? Is the usage of that word significant?

Preparing some sketches for the next chapter.

This time, they meet Ethan Implosion. Guess who's that guy's based on. You'll never find it.

Oh god how do I write a good nathan explosion, i'm fucking crying over my script as my version of nathan doesn't have the verbose of OG nathan

I-I doodled in between writing/outlining
had to stop myself from drawing too far ahead without actually having my floorplan down

Doodling.

woops sorry
looks familiar, can't put my finger on it...

Thanks!

I must admit I took the black backgrounds as a last minute choice because I felt that having 4 panels with white backgrounds looked uninteresting, and then I realized it would eat the black outlines so I tried using white over the black since I saw some other drawings doing it. I have not managed to nail high contrasts like in your example yet.

Should I change the backgrounds to grey so they don't clash with the original black outlines then? Or keeping them white is not a big offense as I think it is?

My webcomic is not going well at all. I'm still stuck on dicking around world building and drawing minor characters.

I've posted a few times here, my comic idea is about space in the future, where a guy takes on off the books sometimes illegal odd jobs after getting fired from his dead end delivery man job. While transporting a box from one side of the milky way to another, he discovers a young girl in the box.

Here is Sari, a mouse girl part of a girl gang on Venus. Our main character has dated a different girl in the group, and yet Sari is my favorite to draw right now.

Someone please kill me.

He's just a tad dead-on even for your comic. I would suggest maybe changing bangs or hair texture or giving him solid black pupils. There's a fine line in parody
cutie on the left is looking cute as fuck
anyway I can help, I'm good at character voices.

Why does a robot need a nest? They don't. Nest in that term is just a synonym for "home". Ms. Villain there is using "villainous vocab" and comparing her robit to a lost bird.

Really digging the art mate, but who's Casshern?

I just love all of you so much
Does sari not have a tail?

Link pls

>that art style
so female

old tatsunoko character recently given a new series that's a lot edgier

Change your comic to Adorable Space-Mouse Adventures instead.

thing is, i want to make him be literaly Nathan Explosion with another name.

I've considered giving him like big strands of grey hair to reflect the fact that he's older than in the show, as my I want my comic to be some sort of unofficial continuation of metalocalypse.

I should work on a new hairstyle, yeah. But no idea on how to make it look like nathan explosion without making it too different at the same time.

Besides, I didn't seem to have any problems with bootleg skwisgaar

Inconsistently. I also can't decide if she's a mouse or rabbit
Obviously

reeee

I feel like I'm too old to make anything that appeals to the webcomic-reading generation.

I'm 28 years old and I've had aspirations to make a webcomic for the past decade. But I'm a lazy, directionless piece of shit.

Don't end up like me kids. Work on your art and writing. Even if you don't feel like it. Don't be afraid, even if you aren't a success. Failure doesn't hurt anywhere near as much as regret.

Make him a tame version of the dude for reasons and then play around with that. And if it's a continuation I want to see the other members of metalapocolypse interact with each other maybe two of them have beef for whatever reason. You can also have some commentary as to why there not that amazing band that they used to be while talking about why metal isn't as big as it used to be blah blah blah , I want to see more interaction with the crew on the own time like you did with big tits. I'm trying to understand where you want to go with this? Are they ever gonna get big? Or is it just a life and times of a decent band?

Also addicted to panelling

Revolutionary panels ya got there.....

last time I looked bootleg skwiisgaar had a goatee or different bangs or a different hair color. was that my memory being shit?
At least give fake toki curly hair. he deserves that much.

why not a jerboa? give her a tufted tail

Never said they were, I just like drawing oneshots

Then make something that appeals to you. Tell your story, not what you think someone elses is.

28 is still young. Start today.

Same guy , this does look good though, hope to see you go digital soon.

Thank you user

basically, the story is that Dethklok (called Death Watch as in people who watch stuff happen) was a huge band that got split after Murderface was kicked out of the band, as a reference to the doomstar requiem thing. Then a lawsuit happened between Murderface and the others, which gave murderface the exclusive rights to dethklok songs. That part of the story will be explained later in the comic, to reflect the beef between Brendon Small and Adult Swim (AS being murderface)
The bandmembers went their own way: Skwisgaar became a "rock therapist" to help other guitarists worth of his time, Nathan Explosion became CEO of a huge record label where he seeks what could be the new Dethklok, Toki made founded hiw own black metal band called [ILLEGIBLE] where he goes full on berserk, smashing bandmates and shit, becoming one of the most violent bands in the game, Pickles is drunk in alaska and murderface is nowhere to be found.

Endgame for Gloryhol is that Nathan explosion needs a rythm guitarist, a bassist and a drummer for his new project. Which is the lineup of the band we're following. Ah, and Skwisgaar at one point join gloryhol as a touring rythm guitarist. Gloryhol is going to become big in the long run, but the road is going to get really bumpy. I like the slice of life aspect of what i'm trying to do, and as I'll try to put the metalocalypse gang in the cast, I don't want to lose the focus on these three french idiots.

Curly hair on Toki? I was thinking going full on Abbath-mode on this kid, and full on muscles and diabetic violent.

>anyway I can help, I'm good at character voices.
Also, I'm good at doing the metalocalypse voices.
I'm not a skilled singer, but my growl is pretty good (that's what Svartsot's frontman told me anyway)

But, I'm looking at a guy who could compose decent songs, as I'd like to make some music for the comic!

Weirdly bringing to mind blindsprings, or that one other comic that I confused with blindsprings... but hopefully better than those. Really I don't see any similarities so I'm not sure why I'm getting that feeling.

I love this premise. THIS is how you do a serial-number-filed-off fancomic

okay but SOMEBODY needs wild robert plant hair.

Welp tried to change the outline colors for white and some look better some I think I'm fucking up. Switching to grey backgrounds instead of black may look like an easy exit but this poor page needs a break from all this abuse I have been doing to it.

Does anyone know the source on this?

No comic. Just quest on /i/

Well, thanks!

And for that glorious hair, i got you covered: Gloryhöl's previous drummer, who's an asshole, will be brought up in a future chapter, with his new band: Antartic Garbage Men, a hipster "metal" band that is going to be wildly popular in france, but not internationaly, whereas Gloryhol will remain unknown there, but a huge hit in america, like Gojira.

trash

Black background works better for me.

Fuck off Satan, simplistic panellingcan be great if done well: Stan Sakai, Toriyama and a thousand others have proven so.

Thanks for stopping by. I love things like this. It's interesting how slowly they move on /i/

>yes this is fun but I know there's some part of me that's dying

Quick, what's that sol / mystery manga called? It used to be spammed to death in one page threads a few years back...

>Toriyama
>Simplistic paneling
You what

Toriyama loves characters popping out of panels and unconventional but energetic layouts. You may be confusing simplistic paneling with simplistic rendering and clever shortcuts.

Thanks for the feedback user. Yeah I think I will stick with that one. I have got some feedback on this side too saying the black one looks better, although I dislike pretty much all outcomes I got.

Well it is said that the first webcomics are for learning from our mistakes and so far what I have learned is to not change coloring plans at the last minute if I already did everything to fit colors instead of black-white-one shade of grey.

How quickly can you release a webcomic? What's a common page-per-week-completed for artists? (ignoring the scripting side)

Maybe I'm being unrealistic, but I'd like to be able to complete up to 30 pages a fortnight or a week if possible. I'm thinking I'll print out templates (eg 3 by 3), then draw on them with a pencil, maybe use my lightbox to trace over them with a fancy pen (I don't have one yet though) and then scan them in to my computer, maybe increase contrast and maybe adding (flat) colour afterwards or redoing text.

Only one per day, user. Otherwise guarantee people will miss a lot of your updates.
If you update a bunch of pages together as one update, that's okay

>30 pages a fortnight or a wekk
If you can do that and not end up with scribbles you'd be working at Marvel on 3+ comics a month right fucking now.

You'll be lucky to do a page a week starting out, 2 a week once you get your groove, especially if you intend to color your pages.

>30 pages in two weeks

Jesus man, you'd need to be working a hell of a lot to accomplish that.

If I'm on a good roll and the pages aren't too complicated, I can usually manage to push out two colored ones in a day.

That's cherrypicking and still pretty straightforward. Don't get me wrong, I really love Toriyama's stuff. He made a "how to do" maga book where he strongly advocates for the simple box panel system coupled with art heavy on traditional inking and little use of "fancy" screentones - not that he doesn't occasionally diverge from this formula.
I stand by my point.

>30 pages a fortnight

The Japanese do 20 pages a week with multiple assitants and it's literally killing them. I doubt you could do 10 a week unless it's literal doodles or you have no job or social obligations whatsoever.

The vampire strip was funny post more plox

Honestly the antlers poking onto another panel comes off to me like "oops, ran out of room. Eh, oh well"

Never heard of it. What's it about?

I couldn't tell, and then I lost track. That's why I stopped reading it. But for a while it was about a pretty girl wandering around mysteriously

Again, that's not "simplistic paneling." Boxy panels is completely separate from being simplistic. Toriyama has an incredible flow between each panel of his work and often uses clever tricks to draw your eye and move you around a page.

I think the guy who shat on user's art was being a little bitch, but that kind of "simplistic" is an entirely different kind of composition from Toriyama's.

If it weren't for the guy's love of doing that shit outside of his proper comics, I'd agree with you. He did a bunch of stuff in the first few chapters of Dragon Ball that ended up only really resurfacing in his standalone art (probably because it's fucking hard to do well on a weekly basis). Like, look at any of his art for Chrono Trigger. He is all ABOUT shit popping off the "panel."

Thanks user! Glad that the joke worked at least.

As far as "finished" comics go I have only done the 2 3-page-stories from the previous challenges and one extra strip about crooked cops (pic related), with which I got a lot of help from anons here because the original joke was in Spanish and it didn't work the same way in English so a hard localization job had to be done.

I have other 2 sketches going on but those are for another webcomic I'm working slowly on, mostly because I got distracted by this one.

Ah, there you go then.

huh, same with me

the art is pretty, though

Colorful holo screens...?

Yeah it was something taking place in a lab and each character had a different color of glowing holographic touchscreen display thing.. and the lighting was just amazing

Sorry user, only two pages so far.

Hm I don't think that was something from me, user.

I didn't think it was, but you reminded me of it!

This looks really nice!

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