Songbird solo when?

songbird solo when?

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Name 5 villains she can fight who aren't the Grapplers or Angar

What would the book even be about?

Never

Cyclone
Crimson Cowl
Skein
Dr. Dorcas
Scourge of the Underworld

Who even is she? Black Canary's long lost daughter?

literally who?

Shoot yourself in the fucking head, S/D.

You don't want that.
She already has pink hair, who know what SJW Marvel would do with hair.

She would probably have a side-shaved cut, became lesbian or some shit.

It is better she stay away from Marvel until thing improved. She was great in New Avengers by Ewing and I want to remember her that ways.

I don't what to see a wretched, corrupted version of her.

>After years of serving under the male patriarchy, Songbird decides to spread her wings. Osborn is recruiting a new group of potential Thunderbolts and Melissa is determined to show them that they need no man to help in this day. She is going to teach them to sing!

YAAS QUEEN

If Marvel stays the course of pushing way too many titles at once? Probably a year or so.

Didn't she already have an arc where her hair was shaven and sexual tension with female teammates?

>YASS QUEEN

I wouldn't call it a sidecut

But yeah this was not a good look

My point exactly. With Marvel lower your expectation, then lower them again. Because they always double down.

Yes, if I remember well, the drawing was fucking ugly. She was captured by someone or something. It was bad quality work.

She got a mohawk once thanks to the starfish man that operated on her brain

If you haven't you should read Avengers Forever. She has a good role in the team up and it was one of the best work Kurt Busiek ever did. Way before he descended into (Current year) insanity.

modern Marvel is so bad, you just know it would be this

>Way before he descended into (Current year) insanity.
Which never happened in the first place but oh wait, I forgot you're not allowed to express any politicial opinion that doesn't suck the God Emperor's dick.

and yet he keeps winning eisners for astro city

>guest starring America

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This is insanity. THis guy is a professio
That didn't prevent me from buying Avengers Forever, JLA/Avengers and his Avengers run.

But you got to admit his far from his prime, not unlike Waid. Great writer, but now a shell of their former selve. Like Songbird would be if they wrote her.

You mean, like Squirrel Girl did ?
Eisners are no longer a proof of quality.

There is no sexual tension between Songbird and Moonstone

I will never understand people like the diversity and comcs guy being this triggered by being blocked on twitter. That's some prime butthurt right there.

He realized that twitter is for shitposting.

oh no, Busiek blocked Diversity and Comics. I would block him too, the guy is a total fuckwad

no?

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The way he blamed Busiek for the current state of Marvel was as insane as it was stupid, considering he has not written anything for Marvel in years, other than the one prologue for Zubbolts. And what he has written for Marvel was all quality material that Marvel made the mistake to either ignore or shit on.

I don't blame Busiek at all for blocking that crazy attention whore.

>im-fucking-plying
Nigga, the only reason Melissa and Karla aren't hatefucking constantly is because... Well actually, there isn't any good reason they aren't constantly hatefucking.

I don't think they are trigger by the blocking but by the constant refusal to see the opinion of people who disagree.

If you block everyone you disagree with, then you got confirmation bias.
Plus, you see that these writers aren't really good people. I always picture Kurt Busiek as someone serious because of the ways he handle continuity.

Now he see him like he is. Why can't he just use his Tumblr for profesionnal/non-political stuff like promoting his book, speaking about continuity trivia ? I didn't need to like a guy to buy his stuff, but now I will be more cautions around his new stuff, or he will be my second pick if I can only by one book.

Most of the DC staff look like decent people, but maybe it is because they don't shit post.

I think Geoff Johns is a cool guy who still love Comics.

Captain Cunning is worse I think. My preferred order is Douglas Ernst > Diversity & Comics > Captain Cunning.

I am not even American.

user, the only thing Busiek is still writing is Autumnlands and Astro City. It's his and other creators' prerogative to block people as they please, just as it's yours to find that off-putting.

But of all the problems' the comics industry has right now, creators blocking retards that come at them with some insane screeching is very low on the list. Frankly, it would be better if they just muted or blocked people instead of engaging.

>Why can't he just use his Tumblr for profesionnal/non-political stuff
Because people are entitled to use their twitter for whatever the fuck they want? Does widdle little babby want a safe space?

I said

No
Sexual
Tension

>youtuber faggotry

the only way to handle trolls like Diversity and Comics is to block them, otherwise you give them more coverage and promote their shitty channel. You are right about confirmation bias but this is not one of those cases, this is simply how you deal with trolls

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NO
SEXUAL

wrecking crew
zemo
aliens
Cyclone
Black Bolt

more or sauce on who drew this?

Still more villains than Captain Marvel... and she still has a solo even with shitty sales and 5 relaunches.

Songbird is a great character but I doubt she will have a solo someday, if I were a Marvel writer I would put her on my team.

Captain Marvel has aviation bullshit, feminism and aliens to fall back on for her plots.
They killed SWORD and gave her Alpha Flight to replace it

What can they do for Songbird?

>What can they do for Songbird?
Wrestling, prison, redeption themes. She was homeless twice too but I doubt nuMarvel would touch on that.

So basically a 70s exploitation movie?

Yes, kind of.
They can always use the UCWF and explain that since the Inhuman Fart cloud created a lot of Inhumuggas the sport is booming again.

bring back troll and dallas riordan

it's inflation porn

Of fucking course

Was too good to be true

That's not sauce yet on who made it.

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sauce?

I'm glad this shit was scrapped and we got a proper figure now

Carol's a far better character than Songbird, though.

We could see her reunite with Chen and Andreas.

Should have added this pic.

I don't believe you.

FINISH IT!

why

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She's not an A-lister, legacy name, or character who gained unexpected popularity from a movie appearance, so never.

God fucking damn it, S/D.

Black Bolt vs songbird who wins?

No chance if it is the classic Black Bolt, nu Black Cuck maybe

Dazzler beat Black Bolt twice.

Dazzler is really OP, she managed to enter a black hole to rescue some artifact for Galactus once.

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Dazzler's power is to literally absorb all sound around her. The second BB opens his mouth she wins.

Songbird can't do shit to Black Bolt

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wtf? when did she become this overpowered? All sound means all pressure waves meaning she can absorb all kinetic energy. She is Sabastian Shaw on steroids?

Basically. Also if she dies, her body is replaced with another instance of herself from a parallel universe and she is fighting fit.

Transforming sound into light has always been her power

That's some D4C bullshit. Source?

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yeah, to an extent, her upper limit was always really low. A bomb would go off and she couldn't absorb that. She just absorbed noise. So black bolt would blow her into oblivion

yeah, she's multiversal now..don't quite get it. But I did like Thodazzlor

Except she's absorbed Black Bolt's voice several times now

She's a hard counter to him

Pre-dyke Carol, maybe.

>yeah, to an extent, her upper limit was always really low. A bomb would go off and she couldn't absorb that. She just absorbed noise. So black bolt would blow her into oblivion

The difference is that Black Bolt's voice is sound that creates a blast, not a blast that creates sound.

So it makes perfect sense that Dazzler (whose entire thing is converting sound into light) could nullify Black Bolt's voice before it formed a shockwave that could hurt her.

Why is this even a concern ever?
For that matter, why do writers let this be a concern?

Take Captain Marvel.
Carol barely has any villains?
Make some goddamn villains.
Songbird has almost no villains?
Make some fucking villains.

How fucking lazy and creatively bankrupt are current writers that "Not enough villains" is ever a goddamn concern when trying to push a hero. If anything it's a golden opportunity to more original villains and cycle out some of the older ones to keep shit fresh.

>sound that creates a blast, not a blast that creates sound.
that makes no sense, they are exactly the same thing, a pressure wave

Yeah, it's not like Iron Man has any iconic villains. They just faked them in all but name

Mandarin was really weird

I'm not even talking about movies right now. I'm strictly talking comics.

All of these C-list heroes that they keep trying to push up into the A-list have no villains, and those same heroes barely get any of them.

How many times have you seen them give some C-lister or a new hero their own book, only to have them go up against a more popular hero's villains?
>"Oh boy, a bank robbery...Time to prove myself...OH NO! It's The Joker™ and Two-Face™! However will I manage without the aid of Batman who is uncharacteristically not here despite the fact that The Joker is keeping Bruce Wayne and his faithful butler hostage! Good thing I've got McGuffin powers..."
>"Man oh man, I've been doing this hero thing for years but nobody knows who I am an-What was that? OH NO! It's The Sinister Six™ featuring The Superior Doctor Octopus™! And they're harassing that biracial youth group who are just trying to earn money for their Christian soccer league! This looks like a job for Generic-Man!"

Throwing longstanding and popular villains at literal who's? People see them job to some nobody and they get mad.
Throwing new villains at longstanding and popular heroes? People want to know who this fucking guy is and what makes him a worthy foe for Batman/Superman/Spider-Man/The X-Men when they already have a pretty packed rogue's gallery.

The answer to their problem just involves swapping one part from each scenario with the part from the other, and they barely ever do that.

now you are just changing the argument and making it about identity politics. I'm not interested in talking to you anymore, don't ruin a decent thread

Identity politics? There's nothing political about any of this you bidoof.

I'm saying that it makes absolutely no goddamn sense for writers to constantly push new villains nobody gives a shit about onto already popular heroes with an expanded rogues gallery of existing popular villains, while giving newer heroes or heroes they're trying to push into the limelight absolutely nothing to work with.
What the fuck is political about that statement?

The sound from Black Bolt's voice creates the pressure wave. But Dazzler can convert it into light before the pressure wave can form.

This. Name any long-time A-lister. They didn't start out with a great rogues' gallery, it had to be created for them.

Why not have Zemo as her nemesis? Given their history it would make sense.

How long do you think new books get to develop a new Rogues gallery before they're on the cancellation block?

Most books can't even make it a year these days. And you think wasting time developing brand new villains is going to sell?

both times she absorbed his voice she could barely hold it and it was only one. Two words and she explodes or he could use all those other powers he has that don't involve his voice.

This isn't exactly a whisper

He shouted and she took it all

I'd rather have a not-terrible Thunderbolts book.
It's been a hell of a long time now.

I cannot believe Zub was trying to drum up fan support for him to return to the title.

The point is that taking in his voice damages her. She could barely stand afterwards and more recently in IvX she said holding was starting to hurt her. BB could over load her in theory, it doesn't cost him energy to talk.

>Dazzler can absorb BB's voice
>vulcan couldn't

Is he the weakest Omega level of in history?

Carol as Ms. Marvel was the same shit character she is now.

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She should get a LS where she gets framed, and has to clear her name as the Thunderbolts hunt her down.

There is a good chance we are going to see them together in the maybe-upcoming Thunderbolts movie.

Was I the only one who felt some sexual tension between her and the recently-escaped Grapplers?

The state of Sup Forums and all these Casuals. Black Bolt's powers aren't sonic based, they're electron control.