What's with the lack of Tomboys in Western Media?

What's with the lack of Tomboys in Western Media?

What the hell are you talking about? I've seen plently

Men are sexist pigs who can't handle strong women. This is why all women in media must be dainty and femme, to avoid upsetting their frail masculinity.

I've only seen like one good one
That doesn't really track

you mean in disney.

>has to have short hair to be tomboy
Brave's Merida. Literally half of the sports girls in all american shows count.

Poor bait my friend, please reconsider

Every other goddamn show has a tomboy in it, I don't know what shows you're watching here

They're on the decline because people woke up and realized that they're shit.

Her lips disappear for a second

>Tomboys ave to have short hair
Never implied that
>Half the Sport Girls
But which ones?
I just read that as her doing that weird smile where you thin out your lips and pull them into your mouth.
You can still see a bit of them

There's a tomboy in nearly all western cartoons. It's pretty much mandatory at this point.

I'm not hearing names.

Because tomboys are all trash

Feminist bullshit. "Tomboys are bad because women shouldn't need to emulate men, they should be women!"

From the top of my head
MML - Melissa
GF - Wendy
Clarence - Chelsea
TLH - There are like 3 of them
Star vs - Star
Gumball - the claymation girl
Korra - Korra
AT - pffft
Bob's Burgers - Louise
Probably the McFarlane shows too
Any B10 - Gwen
SS - Sandy

You know, unless you were asking a for a walking anime stereotype.

Toonshit: Spinelli and Gretchen from Recess, Hawkgirl in the DCAU, Sandy from SpongeBob, the Kanker Sisters from Ed Edd n Eddy, Gaz from Invader Zim

Comicshit: Pick a Marvel female character, she's likely to be mannish, and this isn't a recent development. Dizzy from 100 Bullets, Grandma Ben from Bone (yes, old women count), pick a female GI Joe (save Lady Jaye and Baroness)

What's MML?
Also would Star, Louise and Gwen really count?

>star
>not janna

>"Tomboys are bad because women shouldn't need to emulate men, they should be women!"
that's not the feminist argument, women can no longer whores because "men can fuck whenever and it's considered cool"

butches and dykes don't count

>women can no longer whores because "men can fuck whenever and it's considered cool"

But that's obviously untrue, it's a million times easier for a woman to get laid than a man.

The opposite is true. They are more common in cartoon than in rl be cause writers are lazy.

>why isn't there more x
>there's literally tons
Every.time.

I've heard of this. the implication is that women are tolerant, no, embracing when it comes to men who'll jam their fuckstick into everything.

Protip: they're not. Otherwise, there wouldn't be stereotypes about women being obsessed with commitment. I've said this to chicks before and their reaction always boils down to "Well, women aren't as loud about their disdain for male sluts."

For SVTFOE, Star, Jackie and Janna would probably count as breaking the traditional girly girl trope.

Milo Murphy's Law. Decent show from the creators of Phineas and Ferb

I don't think he's talking about ease of getting laid, I think it's about the perception of
>girl has sex - she's a slut
>guy has sex - he's a stud
which, I'm way too tired to argue the validity of that either way. maybe it's not that way nowadays, but it sure used to be back in my day

Ok, that makes more sense.

I suppose the two are interconnected; because it's so much easier for girls to get laid.

But I don't want to derail this thread into sexual politics, I just saw the dumpster fire that's the Bee Movie thread.

Same reason for why goth girls and other non-mainstream personality types aren't represented anymore: they no longer exist in the modern world

Tsundere=/=tomboy

I thought she was more Yandere.

There's pic related. Also other Gems.
Vambre from Mighty Magiswords
Joan of Arc from Clone High
Leela from Futurama
Ahsoka from The Clone Wars
Kivva from Megas
Apple and Rainbow from that one show

>Pic Related
Pearl is the girliest fucking girl that ever girl.

Recess - Spinelli
Power Puff Girls - Buttercup
Ed, Edd n Eddy - The Kanker Sisters
My life as a teenage robot - XJ9 arguably
Almost every character that falls under the "strong female" category

OP is off as fuck because the tomboy archetype is arguably more prevalent than the girly girl archetype.

Star isn't a tomboy, she's just autistic

>Apple and Rainbow
Hmm, don't recall these two.
Care to elaborate, user?

But all those shows have girly girls as well.

I beg to differ
>wears pic related
>wears a tux
>is a mechanic
>is into driving
>is a swordswoman/fencer
>is a knight to a typically feminine woman
>is based on another tomboy character (Utena)

Jack and Dash?

When I think "girly girl" something like Bubbles comes to mind.
Every show I listed has less masculine female characters, but not the kinda "rainbow, unicorns, sprinkles, stickers, hearts and flowers" kinda girly girl archetype.
Save for Bubbles from PPG and Jimmy from EEnE.

>is based on another tomboy character (Utena)

utena wanted to be a faggot prince, not a badass

>Apple, Rainbow, Jack and Dash
Now there's 4 characters?
You're losing me, user, what is this show you speak of?

Would tomboys be consider transgender nowadays?

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She wears that literally to break character.
She's forced into the tux as a part of Greg and Steven's splurg night
She's a mechanic because she's very intelligent, she's basically an engineer
Her fighting is based in her feminine grace
She's constantly the girl in the fusion dances

Sarah likes all the shit Jimmy likes
Recess has the Ashleys

A tomboy is a girl who thinks of herself as a girl but finds that she has more masculine interests and can fit in more easily with guys than girls.

A trans person can be mistaken for being a tomboy, I guess.

Look me in the eye and tell me that Sarah was a fucking girly girl.

Also the Ashleys were preppy. Totally different.

>I hope you realize you're not actually refuting any of my points tho

Sarah was a girly girl. She was just also a total cunt.

But I did.

I wouldn't really call the Kankers or XJ9 "tomboys"

Jenny other than the fact that she fights monsters and aliens, her interests are all pretty typical girly interests.

If anyone in Ed Edd n Eddy is a tomboy, I'd say it's Nazz, what with her wearing boxer shorts under her baggy pants.

I also don't think Ahsoka is a tomboy. She's just a female Jedi. I don't think being strong and fighting is enough to constitute "tomboy". She dresses in a feminine way, and even wears outfits that "show off the goods".

Ehh I'll give you that one.

I was iffy about including XJ9, but Kankers are THE tomboy stereotype.
>scrappy
>aggressive
>mechanically inclined
>frumpy dress
>trailer trash
>not afraid to get dirty, covered in mud/grease
This is the hill I'm willing to die on.

The rainbow i can understand but the apple comes off as a hard working gal more than anything

Marie i can sort of see
May is probably doing stuff because of the influence around her
lee probably wants a classier life, hence why she goes after the jew of the eds

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>A tomboy is a girl who thinks of herself as a girl but finds that she has more masculine interests and can fit in more easily with guys than girls.
I feel like that's a gender now

Damn, yall niggas know nothin about tomboys.

>Those buck teeth
Audrey was best girl, Kida was so boring
Everything is a gender now.

she had her moments

Everyone on that crew was the best, hell the movie would be much better if they had never found atlantis at all

they wanted the Double D

It really was, the movie turned to shit when they arrived.

>We can't use our ancient jetbikes because nobody has thought to place their hand on the big obvious hand-shaped imprint for millenia

atlantis was a great movie with an awesome group of characters.
hell it's auto one of the best Disney movies because it didn't have annoying characters go into random singing mode scenes.

You guys had one job and none of you could do it right.

Like communism, tomboys are only good on paper. Which is to say, 2D > 3D

Hold on don't tomboys tend to win the mc bowl in western shows?

I think you guys are considering just normal female characters who do anything besides lay around tomboys, which is pretty uncool if you ask me. Star isn't a tomboy, she just kicks a lot off ass while still has the personality of s1 Mabel. A tom boy is a chick who has a lot of masculine traits, and does a lot of boyish things like baseball and hunting ect. I think an easy example of this is Lana from the Loud House. You guys would call Sailor Moon a tom boy just because she beats up aliens, like come on.

I was thinking about more recent cartoons, I could've double that list with older shows

kida the 8000 year old badass

>example of this is Lana from the Loud House.
Or Luna
or Lynn
Or Ronnie Anne

You don't make a good point.

Tomboys dont exist. They're transmen

What? Pearl is not a tomboy. You confuse with Amethyst.

post Lors

Why not? What the hell defines a "good" tomboy?

We all know this is a stealth "anime is better than western" thread

the show with ponies.

Prove Reggie isn't a tomboy

>What the hell defines a "good" tomboy?

Cultural expectations.

>Tumblr screenshot

A Tomboy I like.
Actually it's a stealth post Tomboys thread

She has long hair and plays with dolls.

Boy's dolls

Dykes are no real Tomboys.

Do you know any boys who would play with that doll?

Key that unlocks every door > door that unlocks to every key etc etc

>Dykes are no real Tomboys.

*Dykes are not real Tomboys.

But grammar nazis are all faggots.

>Lydia
>Dyke
Not since she met the right guy

Title?

This
People ITT seem to lump every girl who isn't stereotypically feminine under the tomboy label

Buttsmithy.
user...I've got some bad news or good news...depends on your perspective.

>Armpit hair
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All western women are tomboys. I say this as an outside observer. There's no way to make a western chick seem more masculine to a western audience without making them look like dykes.

Seriously, do some traveling. Non-western girls are normal feminine.

>Doesn't want to smell his qt psuedo Spaniard/North African Mercenary gf's musky pits
Then why do nips have the best Tomboys?

I wouldn't hate it in rl BUT the focus of the artist makes me sick. The guys has no arm pit hair but she has it visible in every scene. That's foot fetishist creepy.

>Seriously, do some traveling. Non-western girls are normal feminine.

I did and it's bullshit.

Because.

Non-western women are more feminine by default. So an eastern girl who exhibits "tomboy" tendencies is still relatively girly. That creates a sort of "gap cuteness" from the contrast.

They're garbage who should be raped into femininity

Visiting tourist traps and watching hotel movies isn't traveling

I have to agree on this one.

> Goal post is in another castle
Sure they hide the "real" girls from the tourists.