It's already superior to the original because they finally nailed Scrooge's personality. In Ducktales, Scrooge was a complete wet blanket, a nice old grandpa and wide-eyed idealist who liked treasure and adventure. His greed was downplayed to a ridiculous degree to make him more likeable to dumb kids.
In the comics, Scrooge is a total hardass, viciously independent and carrying a sharp wit. He's quicker to anger than fucking Donald. His greed, distrust and lack of priorities are portrayed as immense flaws which makes him not only funnier but also more tragic and his eventual care for his nephews even more satisfying.
I gotta agree. You make multiple good points. I also like what they did with Ms. Beakley and Webby. I know people will shout "SJWs!" leftism! feminist trash!" but I genuinely like them more now. Webby isn't just a retard with a fetish for pink, and Ms. Beakley looks like she'll actually be allowed to take part in combat or at the least roughhousing, instead of fainting every 5 seconds.
The logic and twists that came from Atlantis being upside down definitely threw me for a ride too. The twist with the jewel was fantastic
Noah King
Donald is better too, in the comics he's just a straight man. Here he actually gets angry a lot.
Jacob Gutierrez
>care for his nephews
You mean Dewey? Did he even talk to the other two the entire time in Atlantis? I don't know, the entire thing felt very rushed. Nothing really felt earned. Right out of the gate you've got ghost pirates and dragons turned to stone and then suddenly LETS GO TO ATLANTIS which is maybe two rooms? Dug the logic in that the jewel would be on the ceiling but then they just kind of wander out and the bad guy loses because, by the way!!, jewels cursed. They need to let the show breathe more and cool it on the sarcasm. Try and be a little more genuine and actually enjoy the adventure, not just snark their way through a couple of booby traps to get a useless mcguffin that we'll never see again anyway.
Jeremiah Hill
I was referring to the comic, clearly there's no real bond in the cartoon yet. Still better than screaming about them waiting for him to die so they can claim his inheritance.
Daniel Sanchez
What? That only happened with Magica's fear-clones of the triplets, right?
Gabriel Rodriguez
Reminder that in the quasi pilot of the original Ducktales, it was his greed that set off the plot youtube.com/watch?v=ggmVm2ljDuw
Aaron James
>Did he even talk to the other two the entire time in Atlantis?
I think he called on Herbert once.
Nicholas Baker
There's something exceptionally offputting about this animation.
John Turner
>In the comics, Scrooge is a total hardass, viciously independent and carrying a sharp wit. He's quicker to anger than fucking Donald. Stop pretending he was any of these in the DuckBoot pilot.
Grayson Howard
The date says 1987 but it feels more like 1977.
Easton Brooks
>I know people will shout "SJWs!" leftism! feminist trash!" Do you deny it? It seems you like them in spite of the SJW trash. Tell me how making them better than the boys improves their character.
Zachary Parker
he was witty and a hardass, don't know how you failed to see that, we've yet to see him angered aside from that whole bit with donald
Jack Lewis
>One instance of a girl doing anything >WAAAAAAAAAAAH SHE'S BETTER THAN THE BOYS! WAAAAAAAAAH!
I don't even know why I come here anymore
Joshua Nelson
>Ms. Beakley looks like she'll actually be allowed to take part in combat or at the least roughhousing, instead of fainting every 5 seconds. She's... the fucking... HOUSEKEEPER. It's absurd to think she would ever take part in combat other than maybe hitting a burgling Beagle Boy on the head with a frying pan! Not every fucking character in the original show has to be "redeemed" by turning them into a fighter.
Isaac Baker
>better than the boys >is a terrible liar episode 1
yeah no, she's already worse than louie and we got like 2 minutes of him
Blake Roberts
Meanwhile Launchpad is demoted to a chauffeur, while Scrooge's original Chauffeur and Butler doesn't appear at all.
Kevin Cruz
>better than the boys was it stated and implied that she was this?
Connor Scott
>Launchpad is the chauffeur now Please be joking. There was still a sliver of a chance I was going to watch to this thing, but I don't know if my heart can bear a Launchpad that doesn't live to crash planes.
Bentley Garcia
He crashes a plane in the very first episode, user.
Jaxon Perez
Phew.
Tyler Bailey
He also pilots a plane in the pilot submarine too
Zachary Barnes
It's already inferior to every series I watch on the regular because Donald's voice is so bad that I can barely understand half the shit he says. There are literally thousands, if not millions, of people who can do the Donald Duck voice, and they grab someone who clearly struggles with it. Fuck this shit, if he's going to remain a regular then I'm not sure I can tolerate it.
Jayden Watson
Um, pretty sure they didn't "grab" anyone and that it's Tony Anselmo, Donald's voice actor for the past 30+ years. Maybe he's losing his voice, but on a project this high profile they wouldn't have gone with anyone but him.
Mason Baker
I don't find him THAT hard to understand. You can usually get it listening to it two times or less.
Jacob Kelly
It doesn't. It's Disney's Gynocentric propaganda at work. If women were portrayed realistically most men would commit SUICIDE. Most men cannot stomach the idea that women are the inferior sex. These "capable intelligent skilled women" shit is just the fetish of subservient beta males.
In a weird way I am glad that real women are repulsed by these losers and that they try to cuckold them. The problem is that these losers are also the ones who will invent artificial wombs and could you imagine a world where beta males easily reproduce? It sounds like a disaster. To quote McBain in undercover nerd:
"The weak shall inherit this world!"
And that is going to lead to the species getting fucked over and HARD. Whatever happens, for as much as women suck the beta males are much worse.
Nathan Gray
So she's a bad liar....that's a non-flaw. Same goes to her being cooped up in the house for years. In a show about global adventures you know that is a moot point. Webby is just another unrealistically competent twat character. Same to Ms Can Fight And Unrealistically Kick Male Ass because if they showed male antagonists successfully beating up Beakly? It would get canned for Violence Against Women displays. That and of course portraying a woman as incompetent.
And we can't have that now can we?
Brayden Miller
basically the idea is that she's had to deal with all the supernatural shit in scrooge's mansion on a daily basis
Easton Jenkins
>one instance You mean that time Webby captured the triplets and struck fear into their hearts? Or that time Mrs Beakley womansplained that she wasn't Scrooge's secretary, and then proceeded to throw a pen into the wall? What about that preview where Webby went full Splinter Cell on the triplets? Just that one time.
Jaxon Cook
Supernatural shit? What could be considered supernatural besides maybe Scrooge's lucky penny (which isn't magical, but still draws Magica de Spell to the the mansion now and then)?
Charles Hernandez
The sad thing is, I don't know if you're joking or not. I've been terrified that this is what Alex Hirsch's girlfriend would do to the characters, but I haven't actually watched the pilot yet.
Joseph Allen
Maybe try watching the episode before you bitch about it.
Aaron Garcia
>What could be considered supernatural Did you even watch the episode? Also Scrooge has dangerous enemies, so a body guard makes sense
Christian Morris
I'm legit describing things that happened, yeah. I WISH I was making it up. And yet people like this still slurp it up with a spoon.
Juan Reyes
Or I could just bitch about the fact that apparently they reinvented her character completely and, according to , turned into some kind of bodyguard. As a fan of the original incarnations of these characters, I'm entitled whatever opinion I want on whatever I gather from reading about the reboot on this board.
Adam Sanders
This fucking guy. This may be even more annoying than punching Nazis.
Lucas Moore
I can't stop thinking of launchpad as duc version of chris pratt
Aaron Gray
>Urggghh he's comparing a new thing to the older thing it's based off of AND HE HASN'T EVEN WATCHED IT HE'S ONLY READ WHAT WE'VE WROTE ABOUT IT AND ASDFFYGYGyg38e7g387g!!!1111
Luke Clark
Parks and Rec Chris Pratt, maybe. But it's hard to compare him to any action movie characters Pratt has played as they are generally pretty competent.
William Perez
yeah, parks and rec
Connor Powell
But what's happened to Webby is not unique. It's standard procedure across all cartoons for many years. Female are always the intelligent snowflakes who rarely if ever are inconvenienced. Even as a kid despised Wilma Flinstone for being an untouchable cunt (who sabotaged her own husband from success a chunk of times).
Man fuck writers for making these annoying Mary Sues.
Owen Richardson
>I'm legit describing things that happened, yeah. I WISH I was making it up.
yes but you're also given them a context that doesn't exist and makes you sound like a crazy person.
Jaxson Robinson
You mean when Webby tied them up and then creeped them out and Mrs Beakley being mad at her shitty employer not remember what it is she does there?
I'm just glad that they're giving them something to do aside from being annoying as shit set decoration. Besides, you're getting your "women being put in their place" thing with them alluding that thr Boy's mom was probably killed on and adventure.
Jacob Sanders
Beakley doesn't even act like secretary work is demeaning or anything, just that it's not her job. She flat out tells him to hire a real secretary.
Levi Richardson
>She's... the fucking... HOUSEKEEPER.
So is Inez with the lazy eye, but goddamn, I do not fuck with her when she breaks out La Chancla.
Jayden Rodriguez
She probably knows that Scrooge is just trying to save money, and that he's too cheap to pay her to do both jobs.
Colton Stewart
You guys realize that Webby is going to be a patsy for the Boys' pranks, right? She'll basically be their bumbling sidekick.
David Howard
Wow. Is the show as triggerable as this thread insists? Or is it just pretty tame and people are blowing things out of proportion? I can never tell with place these days. Really wanted to give the show a go too.
Logan Edwards
*this place
Luis Perry
git gud
Dylan James
>Supernatural shit? What could be considered supernatural besides maybe Scrooge's lucky penny (which isn't magical, but still draws Magica de Spell to the the mansion now and then)? they established in several shorts on YouTube, that Scrooge owns a lot of mystical and sci-fi crap(including a time machine), enough so that the vacuum has a ghost setting on it
Caleb White
The only thing Sup Forums is good for anymore are the images and storytimes.
Leo Sanders
It's a reboot of a twenty year old and beloved cartoon. How can you not expect autism to spike?
Jack Reyes
Not to mention that he actually gets a whole lot more screen-time unlike in the original Duck Tales.
Colton Myers
It seemed pretty tame to me, but I'd recommend checking it out yourself if you're curious.
Julian Ross
>People went full REEEEEEEEEEEEEE at a thread when some user posted Alex's twatter antifa signaling.
Juan White
Why are the backgrounds so drab and ugly? Is a little more effort really too much to ask?
Jonathan Hill
never thought I'd see a Shocker Combatmen version of Pepe
Nathaniel Smith
They're modeled after the look of the comic books, you filthy pleb. Compared to pic related, isn't it obvious? /s
Parker Wright
I thought it was nice. That the boys could fight so well was strange given that they best of the cheap were characterised as somewhat competent pros. They however still beat them comically and with team work. Webby was flipping around doing martial arts and shit. Donald didn't even get a brawl in. Pretty odd, tb//h. Everything else is okay. The special agent gran is fine, sort of. She's hardly even a character at this point and doesn't seem primed for adventure so much as she's okay with Webby going.
Aaron Parker
Things i liked >Scrooge's personality as OP stated >Webby isn't nearly as bad or annoying a character as I anticipated from the trailers >new Ms. Beakley is now pretty cool >Donald's in it right off the bat >Launchpad is pretty much untouched, if maybe a tad more vocal >animation and colors are fun >the background character designs are also really cool >Similarly to Webby, the nephews didn't piss me off like I thought they would, especially having normal modern boy sounding voices Things I didn't care for >Dewey's little development episode, but I can understand that was the whole point of the episode >Louie is supposed to be the "evil one"? >No Duckworth That's pretty much it. One itty bitty inconsequential qualm is I'm having a hard time getting used to Scrooge's new VA. All in all I gotta say I was pleased to see how much I liked it. As OP said it seems like they took to the comics more and based Scrooge around that. I was horribly afraid Webby was gonna end up another Gravity Falls Mabel, so I'm so happy to see that even though she is quirky it's not too oversaturating for her character, and her loneliness and inexperience with people skills are decent personality traits to give her.
Dylan Robinson
>They however still beat them comically and with team work.
It also helps that the mooks were the best of the cheapest.
Not the cheapest of the best.
Cameron Howard
>great shapes >bright tree and backhoe dominate the page >meanwhile the bg in the OP has nothing but the most depressing and dull colors on ugly shapes
Quit yer clownin'.
Charles Peterson
>11:07 That's a reaction image, if I ever saw one.
Colton Bennett
Except they weren't made to look like fuck ups. Just cheap expendable pros. They even had Donald talk with the sword girl to indulge further into how different they are. She was trained from birth in a hilariously edgy backstory. If they wanted bumbling mooks they would have done so. Instead they chose to make the kids beating them a proving. I think it's an odd, potentially bad call. Especially right off the bat. It's a small gripe but this and the other nit-picks are all my misgivings. Otherwise it's mostly inoffensive. Not particularly good yet but with potential to go somewhere if it's treated kindly.
Easton Gomez
/s stands for 'sarcasm', son. I don't know if I'd call the background in the OP depressing and ugly, but what I've seen of the show so far does not impress me, nor do I agree with the fans who have been praising the backgrounds as "comic-inspired" when they clearly don't hold a candle to even TMS' backgrounds from 1986 (pic fucking related!), much less Carl Barks' work.
Liam Mitchell
/s stands for fuck off you newfag piece of shit.
Levi Bennett
14:03 is also a good one
Nathan Wright
its a cartoon, little boy
Chase Thompson
>getting this butthurt over "/s"
Kayden Turner
Someone get on that please!
Jackson Garcia
a reaction gif as well
Jace Martinez
why the fuck are us adults watching a kids show >>>why
Ayden Martin
alright, i'll stop posting, i wouldn't want to upset you any further... /s
Levi Miller
Cartoons of the era made up for lack of good writing by looking nice. The idea was that kids were retarded and would watch anything with bright colors.
Aaron Ortiz
>Besides, you're getting your "women being put in their place" thing with them alluding that thr Boy's mom was probably killed on and adventure. Jesus what a stupid fucking sentence.
I'm not asking for "women to get put in their place." I want a cartoon where characters can just be characters, not a constant "boys vs girls" episode where the girls inevitably win. Just fucking make a cartoon. Stop soap boxing. That's all I ask.
Josiah Rogers
>meme-lord >competant
Julian Kelly
Don't be a tard, you're embarrassing.
Robert Cook
>not a constant "boys vs girls" episode where the girls inevitably win but dewey got them the jewel and louie was better at lying
Landon Mitchell
...
Jonathan Fisher
And you stop being a snowflake who accuses the cartoon being too soapbox-y without actually ever fucking watching it.
James Jackson
>louie was better at lying Why does this lying bit keep being brought up as if it matters? Who cares? Again, I'm not interested in competitions. Just let the characters be.
Carter Sanders
The channel was stuck, I swear! I couldn't change it even if I wanted to until the pilot was over and done!
Nathaniel Reyes
>Watching cartoons >Reading comics
Why bother when you can just get the footnotes on what to complain about from threads like these?
Christian Young
Assumptions, I see. And no evidence to support your claim. Hmm.
Liam Price
you are the one being triggered that the girls are better and they really aren't. webby is better at combat stuff because beakly taught her, while donald refused to let the boys do anything remotely dangerous, it's not a competition and no one treats it as such they just are. you are the one getting triggered over imaginary slights
Benjamin Foster
>DuckTales '86 >Lack of good writing I can see how you would think that, seeing as how the action was never buried under 15 layers of snark and irony.
Then learn to deal with opinions instead of writing embarrassing shit like this
Zachary Jones
Why am I a snowflake for wanting good cartoons? Surely you have more words in your vocabulary than the overused buzzwords, user.
I watched the pilot, by the way. Which is why I'm expressing my disappointment.
Josiah Cox
He never said any of the things you're accusing him of saying.
Josiah Bell
"not a constant "boys vs girls" episode where the girls inevitably win" except this isnt that at all
Jace Edwards
Ducktales was AIDS in cartoon form and Don Rosa infamously declared it to be the worst experience of his life, you know, the guy who has to puncture a hole in his eyeball every 4 hours to not go blinder.
Ducktales raped the duck lore so hard that if you claimed to like it you'd get beat up in school. At least Quackpack didn't fuck Scrooge.
Daniel Butler
How are either of you fuckers making such assumptions from one episode?
Luis Wright
I have a really hard time believing that Scrouge would actually leave all those gold coins and other treaures behind in Atlantis and only take the Jewel. That seems really out of charecter
Aiden Carter
Then you're delusional because nothing of the sort happens in the show. Could I recommend you a fresh dose of reality? I hear it's good for people living in echo chambers.
Lucas Ortiz
No arguments, I see.
Cooper Brooks
Beakley and webby aren't "better than the boys". They're better than Huey, Dewey and Lewey, but Scrooge still calls the shots and is the mastermind of the show, and Donald, given enough incentive, is basically second banana, but he still overrules the rest of the cast. That's how the dynamic should be.
Angel Davis
He did only bring a small sub, plus everything was blowing up. If you can't carry everything like you'd love to, make sure to carry the most valuable stuff.
Blake Perry
He's been forced to do that before. It's kind of an old meme at this point, the greedy villain trying to bring the gold with him at the cost of his own life, so I can see why they would drop that aspect.
Kayden Lewis
>She's... the fucking... HOUSEKEEPER tell that to Scrooge fucking cheapskate
Lincoln Clark
Come on, look at how she talks and what she does. Webby says she trained her to be ready for anything, and Beakly insists that raising Webby is enough excitement for her now.
If Beakley is not a retired adventurer of some sort that is eventuallly forced to come out of retirement I'll eat my hat.
(As a note, I am perfectly okay with this. Besides, it makes sense that Scrooge would get someone used to danger to clean his house, what with all the barely sealed unspeakable evils)