Is nihilism the final redpill?

Is nihilism the final redpill?

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No.

It's the black pill. It's beyond red.

Nihilism is the blackest of pills.

It's a big black pill. Once you take it you can never go back.

Yo gotta know darkness before you can understand light.

Nothing = Everthing and all that lies in between.

Continue your search with an open mind and an honest heart and you'll eventually find what always was and always will be.

"Humans are condemned to freedom."
Only after you found out that the 'meaning' gave to you by others are false you can begin to fashion it for yourself, user.

If nihilism is so red/blackpilled why do bluepilled normies love it?

nihilism dude? fuck me.
say what you want about the tenets of national socialism, but at least it's an ethos.

They can't move past it.

nope

suicide is the final ultimate redpill

It's literally common sense if you did middle school science

Blackpill is just faggots who don't care anymore.

Read Nietzsche and embrace NatSoc. Nihilism must be overcome by the Übermensch

Stop reading Philosophy, faggot.

Your country is going to hell. Do something

Purge kebab and reclaim your country, Johann

nietzche was never an antisemite you faglord
he wasnt even a misanthrope like schopenhauer
nietzche's faggy sister was

>Implying you can just start with Nietzsche
Typical dumb right wing retard Nietzsche would've spat on you if he were alive.

If you properly ead Nietzsche you wouldn't be a nationalist dupe.

Nihilism must be overcome indeed, but this is not to mean you must embrace spooky hoodoo. It means you must take your nihilism a step further into active nihilism, to break down all the ideological restraints on your own will to power and fill life with your own creativity.

If you're still beholden to nationalism and moralistic philosophies like NaSoc then you have a long way to go. But I'll give you a hint, if there has been an Ubermesnch in recent history out of anyone it was Lenin.

The biggest normies are the bluepilled christians who think there's nothing wrong with this world

What would be a good place to start? I'm thinking 1984, BNV, Atlas Shrugged?

>Not an antisemite

He explicitly stated that Judaic values exemplified slave morality, which he saw as a negative. The Jews of today consider themselves above reproach, any criticism is antisemitism. Therefore, Nietzsche is an antisemitic, at least in the eyes of the eternal kike.

its bluepilled as fuck and an immature way of thinking

No, and contrary to popular misconstrued belief, Nietzsche did not support Nihilism. He only viewed it as a necessary step for progress insofar as a way to learn to appreciate things again. It was essentially his goal to destroy it.

it's a shitty pill

dont do it

i have a shitty outlook on life, doesn't help that i'm severely depressed/anxious

its a terrible pill

i suppose if you wanted to see the frivolities of life but i've had these feelings for so long i've actually forgotten what it was like to have or feel purpose or be happy. it is a very bitter pill

This. Once you move past nihilism and accept a life of hedonism you've finally reached enlightenment

>which he say as negative
He was of the belief that neither slave morality nor master morality were "good", rather he thought we had a lot to learn from both.

In particular he praised the Jews on their cunning among other things which he felt the future ought to embrace.

Yes.You shouldn't care about anything.There is no meaning to life.No end goal.

The Greeks.

>Atlas Shrugged
lol

If you really want to include Ayn Rand then read The Fountainhead.

>What would be a good place to start?
docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/1y8_RRaZW5X3xwztjZ4p0XeRplqebYwpmuNNpaN_TkgM/pub
If you don't have the time then ask /lit/ they'll help you out.

>I'm thinking 1984, BNV, Atlas Shrugged?
I don't know what BNV but Atlas shrugged and 1984 are both trash and you can't just start with them.

watch youtube.com/watch?v=TJIAZynEuWk

Read Ted Kaczynski (the unabomber) manifesto
That is the final red/black pill

Taoism

>you stupid fuck

>Sup Forums
>/lit/
>cross /polit/ posters
>/polit/

Coincidence? I think not! Are cross /polit/ posters the best posters on this entire funding site? I am beginning to think so.

/lit/ hmmm we aren't Sup Forums most of us are marxist so....

Yes. Once you realize that this life doesn't have any value besides the value you yourself give it, you can move on from vanities and the petty social circlejerk to actually doing what you think is right.
Or just kill yourself if you want to stop delaying the inevitable oblivion.

Only the under age newfaggots are marxists.

How so? I was thinking about reading it.

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I'm 20 and have been using Sup Forums since I was 13 and fully embrace Marxism.

Nihilism looks good, especially moral nihilism.

>admire Nietzsche and think he is the greatest philosopher of all time
>be Marxist

Pick one and only one.

Well, basically, having not read it, it's about technology and humanity itself being a blight and the inherent problem. And, really, from what I've heard and come to myself, it's pretty much right about that.

He explains, in detail, how modernity has made the quality of life complete shit.
It's like 200 pages and he touches on a variety of subjects but his rationale is chillingly genius.

Amen brother. Deus Vult!
I want to invade Europe in the future when it's overrun by Muslims. I want to be crowned the next Holy Roman Emperor. Freeing the Yuropoors from their delusion and slavery.

if nothing truly matters then why does it matter that nothing matters?
do as your frail and fleshy abode wishes you to, if everything was pointless and you agreed with this you would not feed it food nor grant it water, yet you do this and more
you will continue life as your husk demands until you no longer live

It's more of a spectrum. Religion and cults are a huge blue pill. Nihilism is a baby aspirin of a red pill. Enlightened Nihilism is the ultimate form of the red pill but few ever go beyond the first few baby steps into nihilism to come out the other end.

Not even close.

>think Nietzsche is the greatest philosopher of all time
>calls other people under age

also

>admire Nietzsche and think he is the greatest philosopher of all time
>be a nazi

Capitalism is the ultimate nemesis of individuality and my own self-interest. It's as simple as that.

nihilism and trannies yes.

read some nietzsche you dumb teenager

No. It's just the beginning.

what promotes individuality? pro-tip capitalism is the closest answer hollande

t. 1%

It is. There is only one thing to life, and that's furthering your race via the means of reproduction. anything past that is a "bonus" or just a way to kill time.

nothing says individualism like wage slavery

>mfw plebs

Humans aren't an individualistic species. We're a social superorganism whether we like it or not. We don't do well on our own outside of society. Even Ted Kacyznski lived off of handouts from society despite wanting to be an individualist. Henry David Thoreau was the same way. He was a fake individualist who lived a short 2 mile walk from town. Individualism is a blue pill.

Not a nazi, also not an argument. Pick one and only one.

No, capitalism is the best thing to use for.your own self interest.

>da ebil capitalists are smarter and more successful than me boo hoo

This is the first Superman.
No and I'll say why.
His answer was the only one he could see, you have been stripped of your other answers.

Life is essentially a losing battle, this must be accepted as a necessity, we will fall.
Even the term "West" "Occidental" means 'to fall' it was in reference to the Sun, the fading light of mankind, then in that dark night when Man is lost, he can still find other "Suns" among the Stars, small piece of eternal nobility chanting a heavenly hymn invoking the memories of our lost Sun.
Man lays to sleep in apathy, hope, and wonder.
He awakens to a new dawn, a new age, a new life, a "new" Sun.
This is the cycle of material life.

The Rising Sun is the symbol of our great beginning and signifies out ultimate fall, our pride, then our down fall (the sun rises and is bright and indomitable, but then falls and is lost in the darkness)
All of this happening relative to Man as is the entirety of human existence.

But in death, the final slumber, not of weary civilizations but the resting of one's eternal soul, that is where peace is found, the glimpse of nobility and the longing for a restful death, this is fulfilled at the arrival of Heaven and the bosom of God.

>capitalism promotes individuality
Look outside, friend.

Capitalism breaks people down into commodities to be sold and to be marketed to, the less individualistic you are the better. It's a great test to your own will, and if you have the will to resist you wouldn't support capitalism. Or any of the ideologies capitalism supports like nationalism.

Capitalism breeds slaves above all else.

It's like 50 pages dude.
Fully half those are him complaining about liberal college types.

Nothing says waste of fucking air like a little bitch with no drive and no accountability for their failures

You know why you are a wage slave? Because you suck.

Nihilism is great because you can finally stop wasting time thinking about philosophy or caring if your actions and beliefs are consistent or not.

>Humans aren't an individualistic species.
is/ought

git gud

t. 60%

>yemun naychur
Pick one of what? I don't consider Nietzsche as the greatest philosopher of all time.

>capitalism is the best thing to use for your own self interest.
How? I don't own the means of production?

You choose to be slave.

He hated liberal college types because he was part of an experiment to see what would happen if liberal college types made fun of freshmen. Turns out one of them gets so butthurt he lives in isolation for decades and tries to kill people.

It's also retarded. You can't forsake your family name - humans are tribal. We need to sustain our families and communities to feel like we have a productive effect on society. Nowhere that's paying you minimum wage is going to benefit your family, community or country.

If we let mega corporations take over we will lose all sense of tribalism, be struck with no option of individualism, and pushed into consumer narcissism.

>one person owns all the means of production
Topkek mate. As to how, mainly by not being a fucking failure. That would be a good place to start.

On the contrary my resistance to being a slave is exactly why I embrace Marxism.

No. It goes even deeper.

No, nihilism is the end result of swallowing blue pills

When did I say that? Are you saying that it's in my interests to be exploited? I don't own the means of production so how is it in my intrests to be a capitalist?

>not being a fucking failure
top jargon senpai

Yet you are still a slave. Not only to the system, but to your own thoughts. Marxism has never worked, it will never work. There is no greater crime than trying to make unequal things equal.

Survive or die.

You don't need to own the means of production to work for your own self interest, nor does working for someone who does own the means of production mean that you aren't working in your own self interest.

For example, if I make screwdrivers for a living but find a capitalist who owns a lathe that would allow me to make many times more screwdrivers, I could work for him and earn myself more money in the process.

>I don't own the means of production how can I ever succeed

The same way others have? Generally, by being intelligent and striving for greatness, instead of a sniveling baby who blames everyone but themselves.

>Not only to the system
What system is that?

It's the grey pill. You just refuse to participate

Basically this.

Nihilism is the ultimate blue pill, it will utterly destroy you.

The Lord Jesus Christ is the true red-pill user.

According to you, Capitalism.

>There is no greater crime than trying to make unequal things equal.
I agree. But at the same time I think you and I have a different concept of what makes someone better.

It's not being rich, it's not being propertied. It's having the strength of will to create or (preferably both) to lead. To cultivate your power from nothing. If you can overcome yourself that is what it means to be great.

Which is why Marxist-Leninist societies are the most Nietzschean societies to ever exist. If you can overcome the hardship and enter the party or create great art you're rewarded, if you're a pleb who drinks vodka all day and has no ambition you go no where. It separates the great from the herd.

Unfortunately the herd won for now.

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What is wrong with you?

And you know what capitalism promotes? Creativity. You know what Marxism promotes? Complacency and laziness.

We already have the lathe's (and the technology that allows us to build them) that allows us to make more screwdrivers why should I continue being exploited because someone "owns" them? We aren't living in a feudalist society you know? How is that in my self intrest?
>le american dream meme
kill yourself?

It was deeper than that. The students were led to divulge their deepest secrets and insecurities and then publicly humiliated using those insecurities by a psychiatrist who trained CIA operatives.

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I thought the whole point was to be an active nihilist, embracing absurdity and working to change the world/create meaning rather than be passive nihilists (I.e. Blue pilled).

From the rejection and devaluation of everything around you, you forge your own ideas. Which, suspiciously, ALWAYS come off as a slightly modified version of what you already had, because your beliefs are conditioned into you harder than the reasons for those beliefs

>Being gay is wrong because god said so. Make them stop being gay! Conversion therapy now!
>NIHILISM AND SOME THOUGHT
>Homosexuality is a tragic mental disorder. We must accomodate those affected so that they may act as productive memebers of society, but we must discover the reason for their affliction and seek to prevent it in further generations.

I've never heard of a nihilist surpassing the passive depressed fuck stage and not just coming back as a more self-righteous version of themselves.

Is crushing depression a symptom of being redpilled or is it the ultimate redpill on its own?

> Creativity.
It most certainly does not. The greatest art of our times isn't created out of necessity or out of greed, it's created out of love and a will to express yourself.

Not to go le wrong generation on this thread but we have absolute trash on the charts and masterpieces that barely anyone will ever hear.

>Complacency and laziness.
That also isn't true. Even though obviously I don't think very highly of your average Russian if one thing can be said it's that hard times make hard men. They're a lot of things, but they're not complacent or lazy. Recent history has proven that much.

It's not a meme when it happens. You first.

Because Marxist societies have always worked out well. Fucking nation traitor cunt, you'll get yours on the day of the rope

Work to save to buy your own lathe, or embrace the freedom of working without a lathe. The end result would be the same, but one route is obviously shorter.

The capitalist isn't exploiting you, you don't have to work for him.

If you have to ask Sup Forums, just stick to natsoc

Nihilism is the ultimate bluepill. Society is already nihilistic via it's embrace of relativism. Once you state that there's no idea that's greater than any other, life has been stripped of all meaning since there is no longer anything to strive for.

We need a resurgence of classical idealism. It's the only thing that will push society forward again. Nietzsche hated the fact that God was dead and life had no meaning. I consider his books a warning for an idea we should move away from.

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