Lads, if you want Trump to win, you need to pour all your effort into Virginia.
Hillary is currently polling in the rough vicinity of +9 in Virginia.
In my opinion, Ohio, Florida, North Carolina and Virginia are the true battlegrounds in 2016. (Pic related.) Among those, Virginia is by far the least winnable for Trump.
The "Hillary will draft nu-males" meme is too national and too transparent. You should tailor your efforts to things that are important to Virginians.
I do not believe that Nevada, Utah, Arizona, North Carolina, Utah and Pennsylvania are true battlegrounds. (pic related.)
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Justin Hill
History strongly suggests that Trump will not take Pennsylvania and Michigan. See chart.
Dylan Sullivan
Virginiabro reporting for duty
David Thompson
No Republican has won Pennsylvania or Michigan since Ronald Reagan.
George W. Bush could nott win PA after giving Tom Ridge a cabinet post and pouring money into the state. Trump will fare even worse.
But Virginia is still Republican country. If Romney could clawback North Carolina, even with its large African-American population - Trump can win Virginia ... with a little push from /pol ...
Levi Myers
what happened to Alabama and Mississippi in 1960?
Camden Brooks
Hello Virginian, please illuminate how Trump might make significant inroads into your state.
Dylan Kelly
True, history says that.
History has never had this many pissed off and broke people who used to be in the middle class though.
>History has never had this many pissed off and broke people who used to be in the middle class though.
Sure we have, and FDR won that time.
Ryder Morgan
Born Virginian here, standing by for questions
Jacob Turner
Write off Northern VA. It's a leftist shithole akin to Maryland.
Gun rights are solid in VA. Play up concealed carry and Trump's support for CC.
Talk big about military spending and how Trump will help naval superiority. Norfolk is a big naval base.
A lot of good colleges in VA. Va Tech, UVA, W&M, etc. Talk about Trump's plan to fix the higher education system. Point out how the Dems have wrecked it.
Kevin Gutierrez
VA is lost IMO- too many new immigrants and government workers around DC
Better to focus on the bigger electoral prize of PA that contains more of Trump's core demographic- Blue collar whites.
Consider the following:
>Romney lost PA by 5% >Romney got 14% in Philadelphia county >Trump polling better among blacks (40% of Philadelphia) than Romney >another 40% of Philadelphia is blue collar white >Trump flipping blue industrial counties like pic related by HUGE margins >same demographics in pic related can be applied to larger counties like Lehigh/Allegheny/Erie and to a smaller extent, Delaware counties
I think Trump gets 20-25% in Philly. Maybe 30%. And 55-65% in the coal counties and Pittsburgh.
The real challenge will be in the collar counties surrounding Philadelphia.
Lincoln Cox
>Texas >red
Adrian Richardson
George Bush wasn't Trump Virginia is no more republican than the rust belt.
Aiden Cox
Virginian here. Put all your effort into Pennsylvania.
Jackson Cook
Iowa is in play. Your point is well taken. John Kerry lost Iowa after Gore won it.
But I think the ortgeist in Iowa is more closely aligned to the white liberalism of Wisconsin than it is with the rural conservatism of Indiana. And I think it will remain that way for the foreseeable future. A charismatic candidate could swing it, but I don't think Trump is that individual.
Colton Nguyen
Going off the primary model, Trump will win Virginia
Since Republicans had 200,000 more people at their primaries than Democrats
Virginia is not republican country. Virginia is nigger country.
Julian Adams
Honestly, the best way to win Virginia is to have nogs not show up in 757 (area code for southeast of the state) and spics not show up in Northern Virginia.
Jaxson Richardson
Turnout up nearly 400% from the 2012 primaries
Austin Parker
>Iwona >Blue nah
Michael Rogers
that 76 bizzaro world
Angel Reyes
300%*
Aaron Campbell
Good stats user.
You may be right.
Pennsylvania and Virginia are interchangeable in the path to victory from Trump. But he must have one.
I do not think PA should be ignore. The primary point of my post is that /pol needs to focus on a handful of battlegrounds. /pol's efforts need to become highly regional.
Anthony Hughes
Va could be in play but is a TOUGH sell honestly with the current demographics there but dang sure not impossible for him to take it.
Pa and Mi are both going to be the shock for Dems on the 8th. Union workers left holding the bag there for too long.. all the satellite business gong under with plants closing up.. Union Leaders still worshiping Hillary... Union workers? Different ballgame.
Brayden Jenkins
People act like Trump losing would be doom and gloom, but Barry Goldwater's loss got followed up with one of the best Republican eras in history starting the election after. Reagan in 1980 was also very divisive. If he loses, #NeverTrump will be purged and the future of the party will spread across the rust belt.
Meanwhile, the Democrats, in the event of a loss, are completely doomed as they have no viable candidates after Clinton.
Nolan Collins
I'm here in the 804. Just in the last week the blacks went from not being interested in the election to every one of them having a Clinton sign in their yards. There's a lot of Trump support in the exurbs but they still outnumber us 3 to 1 here.
Adam Smith
Everything you have written shows a kind of misunderstanding of this election that I have never seen on this board before.
IA will go red ME CD2 will go red Then VA is the least likely to go red He will win either CO, NH, or PA He is even more likely to win WI or MI than VA
Gabriel Reyes
That was also George Wallace.
Matthew Brown
The problem is that Virginia's Trump support is tapped out at whatever level it is. The mountains will be solid red, some areas around richmond, but NoVa and 757 are infested with Feds and spics in the former and nigs in the later. The Feds also include contractors who are wealthy and usually Republican but are afraid Trump will upset the apple cart and hurting Federal contracting. I'm not sure where additional gains can be made.
Brandon Turner
>up 300% wew lad
Brandon Anderson
6 to 10 isn't terrible odds
Mason Gomez
>TOP ISSUES: The economy was the leading issue for about half of the voters, followed by health care and foreign policy. >foreign policy. Can anyone elaborate?
Are Virginians against foreign intervention? This is something we could really pound Hillary on, since she's actually the warhawk candidate. Most people seem unaware.
Joshua Green
dems didn't have tens of millions of illegals waiting to be legalized back in the 60's It's a different story today
Sebastian Hughes
Lads, Obama beat Romney by 6 points in Iowa. He beat McCain by 10.
Iowa is likely not going back red in the near future.
Iowa is in play, but it is not likely. /pol cannot let wishful thinking be the enemy of effective mobilization.
Jace Cox
Pretty much 2/3 of this state are connected to the defense industry in one way or another. People around here just look at the prospect of war as more overtime and bonuses.
Brandon Gomez
>No Republican First off, bush won pa the first time. Second Thats a fancy way of saying three presidents. It doesn't sound ridiculous when you realize that it's literally just a single generation.
Jacob Ramirez
I think you are on the right track there. Map I made up earlier today based on how things stand right now and how they are trending.
Cooper Phillips
Doesn't sound like something Trump can easily win then. Why not go for PA?
John White
>if you're willing to be more plausible and less trace-able.
Big "if" here at CTR/Sperg central.
Benjamin Ortiz
Haha get ready for Michelle Obama 2024 after 8 years of Hillary. She would take it easily.
Caleb Scott
Niggers in Philly and corrupt old union bosses running local politics there.
Ryan Martinez
wHEN THE FUCK ISNT IT GEORGE WALLACE
Cooper Garcia
I dont know.. but i heard them Virginians love their boy TIM KAINE
Camden Cruz
romney was a mormon, white turnout DROPPED for romney
Trump will win it easily, he's a totally different candidate.
Dylan Thompson
The best we can do here is to convince them that both candidates are shit and voting is a huge waste of time. That's what i've been doing, and it seems to be effective.
Jaxon Jones
>republicans taking Michigan after the flint water crisis Republicans took literally 100%of the blame especially with their (((emergency manager)))
David Carter
Lads, I just had a thought. Has anyone been ginning up the idea of a mass amnesty being in the works as Obama's final executive order? This could follow the model of executive pardons during the lame duck executive series.
Before you reply, that such an act would be beyond the scope of executive order and likely to be overturned - I would direct you to the doctrine of foreseeable reliance, which a 5-4 Dem SCOTUS could seize upon.
Dominic Bailey
He's mostly just remembered here for mishandling the roads and shutting down rest areas along the interstate.
Robert Collins
>Ohio, Florida, North Carolina and Virginia are the true battlegrounds in 2016 I was about to mention that California is also a battleground, then I remembered the battle has already been fought and Trump has won
Leo Myers
Excellent demoralization work, even Sup Forums has given up any hope of turning Virginia red. They just don't like to talk about it.
Josiah Walker
Carter was from georgia, so he got the southern/rural vote.
Jack Butler
Not sure how much that actually efffects them there because it was mostly niggers getting shitty water
Ryder Bailey
lolwhut
I'm a Hillaryfag and I've given up on IA - that's the one fucking swing state that is clearly going Trump
I feel better about AZ than IA
Owen Lewis
They are already planning on that. One of the main reasons the MSM is trotting her out all the time now.
Would be the first trans POTUS though... :/
Jose Martinez
The problem is that the Dems control the black church, their preachers are out there telling them if they don't show up to vote Clinton their EBT cards will be gone and Jesus will cry.
Austin Bell
Possibly this year Utah and mcnuggets
Elijah Wilson
Michigan has gone red
Gabriel Miller
Gore won PA by 4 points.
Dylan Miller
I don't know this user has been talking to. I know a decent amount of vets and they despise Hillary, especially over the way she mishandled classified email. They have all known cases of people being put in jail for less. And none of them want fucking war. They want to sit on their ass and be paid.
William Carter
Wrong bush
Robert Diaz
it will be late at night b4 we will know about virginia
Oliver Bailey
So, the +26 Clinton state is a battleground, eh?
Benjamin Carter
Poisoning an entire town and causing every city in the state to test their water pisses people off. It been a national embarrassment.
Now there's a possible scandle involving the governor using taxpayer money to pay his personal legal fees. Michigan is not red, guaranteed.
Ryder Peterson
Iowa and NH can go red instead, in combination with winning 1 electoral vote in Maine and Trump can win without Virginia.
Samuel Lee
I'm not talking about the vets themselves (who tend Paul/Alex Jones in their opinions), defense contracting is big business in VA. Northrop Grumman and Boeing sign a lot of paychecks.
Easton Carter
Lads, this is entirely possible. I think she would function in more of a classic puppet/spouse capacity as seen in the developing world in the 20th Century - unlike Hillary, who is generally regarded as possessing great agency.
Daniel Reyes
Gore won PA with 50.6% of the vote
Luke Martinez
>Lol fuck catholics and republicans
Nicholas Gonzalez
Aww, isn't that cute, you really believe that there's a chance for him to win, don't you? That is so sweet. I wish I could be as naive and innocent as you. Bless your heart, don't lose that innocence, even after the inevitable crushing defeat.
John Sanders
Trump wrapped up Mi as soon as he said "35% tariff"... and he wrapped it up bigly..
Ryan Butler
"big league
Connor Diaz
Depends how much local republican screwery effects a presidential republican candidate.
I'd imagine not very much
It's a bankrupt black city that only had this problem because democrats/blacks run it into bankruptcy.
Colton Martinez
Ok, then yeah. MID typically lean more red but they are scared Trump's going to fuck up their cash flow.
Ethan Gutierrez
I'm a Virginian - What can I do to help the cause?
Blake Torres
Lads, this is another plausible get for Trump. My fear is that Trump will lose an electoral vote in Nebraska that will nullify the gain in NH.
Dylan Barnes
Keep the damn dead folks from voting!
Christopher Cruz
Bush Sr. you fucking moron
Nicholas Cox
>It's a bankrupt black city that only had this problem because democrats/blacks run it into bankruptcy.
Kek. I thought you were talking about Petersburg since it's VA thread.
Son, I'm begging you, do not go on a shooting rampage at the Piggly Wiggly ... unless you happen to be Yemeni, in which case, express your displeasure with pork-based mascots.
Michael Barnes
Clinton won PA both times.
Andrew Davis
Lads, have you tried using Jeremiah Wright's distaste for Hillary to stifle enthusiasm among black voters?
Anthony Davis
You don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Probably some Nu male douche. Babbys first election die in a fire faggot
Adrian Rodriguez
No, that's just retard talk. People in Michigan aren't falling for the manufacturing meme, those people have literally moved out of state or retired.
Governor doesn't indorse trump, the entire state hates him for what he allowed to happen, it does negatively impact the GOP I live here.
Joseph Morris
Fuck Minnesota
Nathaniel Smith
the strongest Clinton state he has to flip is NH
Michael Cook
Get large groups of people to vote en masse. Friends, family, church, anything like that. Encourage Dems to not vote. Be vigilant of fraud.
Jeremiah Cruz
White people would sure as fuck wake up and maybe we could start organizing a movement
Gavin Garcia
North Carolina will go red right?
Evan Roberts
Clinton wasn't running in 88
Ethan Hall
Agreed but people need to realize that Minnesota went blue in '84 because Mondale was a native son and Norwegian. We would still vote for a Scandinavian for president if he slapped his opponent across the face with his cock on national television.
t. minnesotan
Joshua Gutierrez
Virginia is a guaranteed blue state, you fucking idiot.
Iowa is a guaranteed red.
It's Pennsylvania and Nevada that are the most worrying toss-ups.
