Should it be illegal for universities and colleges to lie to prospective students in order to get them to pay for...

Should it be illegal for universities and colleges to lie to prospective students in order to get them to pay for classes they can't do anything with?

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that should be considered deceptive advertising

It isn't university's job to get you a job, it is to give you knowledge. What you do with that knowledge is up to you, and you should decide considering your own circumstances. For example I know a guy who went to uni to study poetry, and he is able to sit on his ass writing faggy rhymes because his family is loaded as hell. He even has published a couple f books. It isn't university's fault that a batch of faggots choose poetry as well even though they families are dirt poor, when is well known that such majors have little demand.

Universities are extremely outdated for today. It used to be only the best and most capable people in society attended university. There were millions of jobs regular people could get that they didn't need to go to college for. Now though society tells EVERYONE to go to college, so degrees have become virtually useless since they no longer guarantee having higher end jobs.

>It isn't university's job to get you a job,

Nobody said otherwise.

However there's no denying that they lie to aspiring students saying that those with X major have high chances of getting a job, or they just bullshit and say that getting a degree in Womens Studies is somehow a viable degree.

Le maths graduates are never unemployed meme

Yes. Here's a tough pill for some of you in uni as an engineer. When I graduated on 30 out of my 100 chemical engineer graduates got jobs. Petroleum engineers had even less success.

The problem seems to stem from the notion of "Look at all these job openings!" ignoring the fact that they all have basic requirements that a graduate cannot hope to have like 2-4 years of experience and other nonsense.

It should be illegal for universities to offer anything besides STEM courses. Also, federal and state funding should be denied to any institution or their student who attends a different type of school.

It should be illegal for any accrediting body to accredit anything other than STEM schools.

Well, do universities in your country advertise like that? "Come study sociology, you'll never be out of job!"?
I assume the majority of cases are uninformed idealist lefties not investigating which jobs are in demand before deciding for a career, just like here.

What majors are/will-be on demand, that pay decently?

It moves. New degrees are invented regularly, and then sited by businesses as something they can place in a requirement to get cheap foreign labor.

I'm communist, but i think that after university the state haves to provide you a job

What about trades like Plumbing, Construction, Graphic Design?

>I'm communist
Read Atlas shrugged then come back.

Kursk. English subtitles.
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Some of them are already being sued for lying to students about job placement after graduation.

Each company using H1B
1M application fee
100k license fee per H1B per year

Make retroactive to 2010

Most non shit tier universities offer everything you need to succeed both in education and career

Yes, especially art schools. The only art schools that should exist are the ones that teach commercial art (Graphic Design, Animation, UI/UX design, Web design, Architecture, Industrial Design, Fashion and Concept Art). Everything else is trash that perpetuates the starving artist meme.

>inb4 someone gets butthurt about olde art masters not getting taught

Any art school worth their salt teaches Art History and studies the fundamentals.

I'm a math grad an found a job just a few months after graduating.

It's not minimum wage either. I make $11.75 at a fulfilment center.

This is why unemployment means nothing.

>fulfillment center

I know what that's like. I feel you, bro.

Universities should take risks in college loans with the students so if they can't find a job after years of schooling colleges are hurt along with students.

You'll see African and women's studies courses die out so fast you'd think they never existed.

Agree 100%. I would have zero problems with art schools if they taught you something you can earn good money with. If you refuse to pick up any skills people would want to pay for in fear of selling out, you deserve to starve to death.

That's called underemployment

Yeah, but i believe in it sorry, i'll probably do it but i won't change my mind

What do you think about Political Science?

I know. What I'm referring to is Obama's "job creation" and low levels of unemployment.

>Work in IT in North Carolina
>Need to hire a DBA with Oracle Data Appliance experience
>spend six months with no one near the requirements
>Eventually hire a PooInLoo from Canada

all of those can fall under technology and engineering so they basically are STEM degrees. in a way

to be fair getting experience is basically impossible. I'm finishing my PhD right now in physics from a top 20 school and I can't get a single interview for a real job, but I can get postdocs at harvard, stanford, caltech, (literally all 3). Every job requires 3+ years of experience in something, I have no idea how anyone ever got a job.

The best option for a US student is to take undergrad in Europe and then come back to the US for graduate school. Takes some effort to pull of but it's better financially

>dumb portugal idiot saying anything

it's not difficult to get a full ride to a state school in the US, many of which are better than any EU school. It's even possible to get a full ride to private schools like harvard, stanford, etc, for the very top

America has the perfect education system: the stupid finance the smart

Yea I know that's why student loans are not a problem in the US

only a problem for people who shouldn't be there in the first place. Free education is one of the reasons your country is a shit hole

Fuck even if you are poor, or you just want to save money, the ideal way is to go to a 2 year college, get all your pre-reqs and general eds done for less than a 25% the cost of going to the 4 year University and then go the Uni to finish up. It's what I'm doing and all my student loans are paid off with a shitty job.

Finally I can ask someone!
I’m about to graduate with Engineer's (specialist's) degree. I've been studying Land Surveying for 5 years.
Can I get a job in the US, or I'll be told "Fuck off fucking ruski, go back to Russia and work for $500/month"?

I did my PhD in a US top 10 and met quite a few students who have taken loans. I think coming to Europe for cheap undergrad is a good option since undergrad is pretty much the same anywhere in the world. Any northern Europe country has good schools well in par with US ones. Now if you can get a scholarship there then go for it ofc this don't apply

>batch of faggots
hahahahah

They should just tell you at the door
If you aren't pussywhipped by a third country warlord then you aren't getting a bitch seat