Daily Reminder: English is just another Latin language

Daily Reminder: English is mostly a mongrel mix of Latin (over 50%) - French and Italian (Latin languages of course) ancient Saxon (German, by structure) and because of that is largely comprehensible by the other European people.
I can tell you every single word of your phrase who comes directly and indirectly from the Latin:
Daily: Dies (Day)
Reminder: Rimembrare (Italian - Latin)
You're: Thou, Tu (Latin - Italian)
Conversing: Conversare (Latin - Italian)
In: In (Latin)
our: noster (Latin)
Language: Linguaggio (Latin - Italian)

Ricordati: Tu stai conversando col nostro linguaggio.

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TWO WORLD WARS

Daily reminder: The sky is blue

En fait vous parlez notre langue...

Name one language that isn't a mongrel mix of lamguages that came before it. Languages don't just appear fully formed from nothing

ONE WORLD CUP

The: De (Latin)
Sky: Coeli (Latin, pronunce: Chely-Skely)
Is: Est (Latin)
Blue: Blu (Italian, Latin)

Ricordati: Tu stai conversando col nostro linguaggio.

How many words you use every day are latin? How many are Germanic?

Just because a word exists doesn't mean it defines a language.

Sky is old norse.

Sup Forums - linguistic analysis

We could easily speak using only an old English vocabulary, it would just be a very autistic thing to do. I would advocate bringing back the thorn (Þ, þ) letter though, English could really use a dedicated letter for the "th" sound.

If you think English is simply just Latin

step 1. build a time tachine
step 2. go back to Rome
step 3. try and pronounce names like "Caesar," "Cicero", "Scipio"
step 4. get laughed at//crucified

LA REYNE LE VEULT !

HONI SOIT QUI MAL Y PENSE !

Over 80% of the words which you just used comes directly and indirectly from Latin. As I said, I can tell you the origin of every single word.

Oh look, another non-thread

Remember when Britain was relevant? I don't. My history book says they used to be.

What happened?

You're a pop linguist at best, the use of articles is through the entire Western European sprachbund and is likely a remnant of neolithic European (the word for "one" in Etruscan is "thu").

Not really, like are all a variant of Germanic. The reason this guy thought they were latin is because all European languages have the same root and thus have very similar words for some things. it's just confirmation bias.

depends on the dialect. Yorkshire and Geordie are much more German and Norse.

wor ye gannin like? Aye gannin doon our hinny's hyem.

Yeah that's totally latin.

Obviously the English language is not plain Latin, but surely his origin lies there.
PS: You can't possibly know the correct pronuntiation of "Caesar" since you are British :)

You nailed Geordie.

t. a Geordie

"Kais-or" or "Kais-er"

All those word are of Germanic origin and are cognate to Latin languages through Proto-Indo-European, not specifically Latin. Might as well say English is from Sanskrit since brother sounds close to bhrater.

t. from country Durham.

I know a fair bit of Geordie and Yorkshire dialect.

Related:

youtu.be/2OynrY8JCDM?t=10s

Nah. You should go to a Spanish or Italian university to hear a correct Latin pronunciacion.
Your pronunce is at best ...funny since your great vowel shift :)

English is a Germanic language you mong

French, Italian and Spanish are Romance languages, a related but different language group

Salve, Amice! Gratias tibi ago pro scriptum tuus in haec tabula sinensis. Tamen, paulus errorem habes: "our" ex Latine non venit, sed ex Lingua Germanica.

I hope I wrote it well, my Latin is a little rusty...

Hmm, glad I got this latin dictionary, now time to feel superior on a mongolian steppe horse archery slate!
Seriously though what's your point?

Why do you bother making these shitty bait posts? What are they accomplishing?

Anybody who takes your point seriously for even a second can google and receive 6billion results in 0.30 seconds about the pronunciation of Latin, and how it evolved. Italians and Spanish don't pronounce Classical Latin how it was originally pronounced either so what use is that?

Julius Caesar was pronounced Iulius Kai-sahr, but Octavian's, for example, name when written DIVI F IMPERATOR AVGVSVTVS. I actually studied Latin for a long time, and you can go to latindiscussion.com/forum/ for actual information on the language beyond shit tier Sup Forums threads from bait posts regarding the most important language in the world today (English) and the most important language of history.

it is germanic dumbo

English is a pidgin of Dutch and French, therefore Island Belgian

Latin (as you said, the most important language of history) was authentic, sophisticated, neverlasting language.
English (the most important language today) is nothing else that a mongrelization of old German and French/Latin, a rude and incomplete language, sounds like a mix of beer, piss and barking dogs. Nevermind UK, which has become a pathetic isolated little country in few decades, English is used only because the US economic, cultural and military egemony, nothing else.

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Every single language you can think of is a mix of other dialects combined into one, and as is the case with English, it varies regionally, especially when widespread.

If Latin is so superior, and it is a pretty great language for reading the classics (which is the only reason for learning it today), then why did the Romans mainly speak Greek?

Latin was the legal language of Rome but its aristocratic class spoke Greek. Which, by the way, heavily influenced Latin as well as Etruscan languages.

I thought most european languages took a ton of words from latin?

Iirc all you have to do to speak french (latin language) is remember filler words like 'who, what, where, why, when, of, the' etc and pronounce words ending in 'ment, ing, ious, able' etc differently.

I imagine its not so different for other latin languages.

You're always welcome to fuck off, go and live in a country which still speaks lati- Oh wait

It's also worth noting that there around 500 fluent Latin speakers in the world today, and they live in Vatican City.

You, and nobody you know, will EVER speak fluent Latin. I studied it for 2 years, and can use basic phrases but still mess the pronunciation up.

Knowing Spanish is very useful for written Latin, but spoken Latin has no help.

They do in writing.

>Nevermind UK, which has become a pathetic isolated little country in few decades

Spotted the remain voter

>Romans mainly speak Greek?
This is a gigantic bullshit. Period.
Greek was spoken in the Roman Empire as second language by a strict minority, the large part of the Empire used Latin as common language, even in Greece!

> You, and nobody you know, will EVER speak fluent Latin.

Look into the Vivarium Novum academy on youtube, you'd be surprised.

He probably meant important Romans, remember the aristocracy is a minority.

Why Spanish and not Italian? I thought Spanish had some arabic influence?

No, it's a pretty solid point backed up by the hundreds of historical works from Rome that were written in Greek. You can't manipulate history to work how you want it to - the Roman elite spoke Greek and wrote in Greek.

In fact, the only original surviving copies of Caesar's Bello Gallico (although not written in Greek) were translated copies and had to be re-translated into Latin.


Also, since morons often make this mistake, the Roman Empire was around 30% of Rome's history. There was also the Republic and Kingdom.

During the late Republic, the elites spoke Greek. And I'd like to see what proof there is for Greeks, even under Roman occupation, for speaking Latin.

I did, I put in my original point too.

And I don't speak Italian, but I speak a bit of Spanish, that's why I used Spanish as an example. I know from first hand experience that it helps.

"[Women] talk nothing but Greek... Their fears and their wrath, their joys and their troubles - all the secrets of their souls - are poured forth in Greek... All this might be pardoned in a girl; but will you, who are hard on your eighty-sixth year, still talk in Greek? That tongue is not decent in an old woman's mouth. When you come out with the wanton words ζωὴ kαὶ ψυχή, you are using in public the language of the bed-chamber."

From the late first/early second century AD.

Repetita iuvant: Latin was spoken largely during the Roman epoch (Imperial or not) while Greek was only an elitarian language. Infact Latin survived the fall of the Roman Empire and was used for thousands years through the Middle Ages and more. We have strong echoes of the Latin all over the European languages even today, while the ancient Greek remain a death language, accessible only with a specialistic study in some university.

daily, thou, in, our are of Germanic origin. there are similar latin words because both latin and Germanic languages share a common root.
the most commonly used words in English are mostly Germanic. the large number of latin words comes from the fact that the English will put just about anything in their dictionary even if it's never used.

That's because Latin was the language of the Romans and the Romans were, quite possibly, the most important nation in the history of western civilisation. But Greek was the language of education. Similar to how Latin was the language of education a thousand years later.

Latin is a dead language too, by definition. Greek is too. Neither are extinct languages though.

And Greek survived the fall of Rome too. I didn't notice that bit. What are you talking about? Greek was the most common spoken language in post-Roman civilisation.

Not true, Latin was used during the Middle Ages as cultural and clerical common language. Even today still used in the Scientific community.

Almost every scientific work up until Isaac Newton was published in Latin, but very scarcely spoke as a native language. During the Renaissance, and into the Early Modern period, attempts to reestablish Latin as a widely spoken language were made with little success.

Latin isn't practiced today in the scientific community. But names, like plants and animals, tend to be Latin. But knowing Latin, or having to write in Latin, or even pronounce the Latin names right, is not a pre-exquisite for becoming a scientist. They pronounce the names with an English pronunciation, if they speak English as their native language - exactly like you do if you attempted to read Latin off a script.

Have you ever actually tried to study Latin? Its like Chinese for non-native speakers.

Cicero means Chickpea lol.

> Greek was the most common spoken language in post-Roman civilisation.

If this were true, Romance languages would have had more influence from Greek than from Latin, which is not the case. On the other hand, indeed Greeks survived on certain zones more closely to Greece, but that's pretty obvious I guess.

The reason Latin was incorporated so massively into modern European languages was because of regional dialect and alphabet. We pronounce very few of those words similarly.

I don't know what Cicero means, but I know it was pronounced Cheech-ero.

Lingua nostra omnes, frateri

Was meant to cite the Byzantines as an example. Greek was the most common spoken language after a century, but they encouraged religious worshipping in people's native languages as to help the spread of Christianity and to impose it through non-violent means.

Is Latin worth learning?

If you have any interest in reading classical works, then 100% it absolutely is, otherwise, I'd say besides from being able to read (vaguely) Ancient Roman monuments, it serves very little practicality today.

As long as you don't go into it with the intention of speaking it fluently, it is pretty fun to learn though.

Latin came from linear b

I know latin and i can tell it has helped me learn italian and french. Knowing spanish and catalan also helped though, so unless u are crazy to read virgilius in latin id suggest you learn spanish.

Day, thou and in are Germanic words you dumbass. Common words rarely if ever get replaced by words from another language

Would you fuck the queen?

Chinese? No way, It's not so difficult for me since I'm an Italian mothertongue :)
The pronunce is pretty close, as well words and grammar. No vowel shift, no German core, just a natural and direct evolution. Latin > Italian. However I can understand why Latin is difficult for you English native speakers, it's not easy to grasp.

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Oh fuck off you retarded cunt . English is a beautiful language and reflects the history his people lived through.
Go learn esperanto you dumb paki immigrant cunt and pack your bags if the sight of green hills and alcohol disturbs you that much.

Latin didn't even have articles
The word 'is' is also Germanic
You literally don't know what you're talking about

I've met Latin students from all across the world on online forums and I know from experience that Spanish helps, and Italian supposedly does too, but to what extent? Latin is still a completely seperate language in which you need to learn its structures, its pronunciations, its spelling and its punctuation (or somewhat, lack-of).

That comes easy to no Latin learner, especially when studying a dead (by definition) language.

You've already proven you can make connections between words that
1. Make no sense
2. Are related, but not in the way that you think

> they encouraged religious worshipping in people's native languages as to help the spread of Christianity and to impose it through non-violent means

That seems odd, considering the whole history of Christian expansion...

Also, nice trips, and I'm pretty sure Classical pronuntiation would've have it as something closer to "Keek-ero"; the ch sound in C, as is my understanding, comes from ecclesiastical Latin.

>Latin didn't even have articles
mylanguages.org/latin_articles.php

You lliterally don't know what you are talking about. Ammurikan school of course.

>The
>Latin

HIC PLEB COGITAT LINGUA LATIN HABET ARTICLES!!!

Did you read your own link before spouting your murican education meme?
>British education

I learnt a bit of chinese and in some ways its piss easy. All words are invariable, there are no verbal tenses, no plural, nothing. But the writing and the entonations are absolutlely impossible.

The 'C' is pronounced as a 'K' but ends in the same noise as '-eech' where as the last vowel is long.

The spread of Christianity takes a dark turn at some points but not exclusively. The Rhomaioi and Greekioi, as they called themselves, were the true continuation of the Roman legacy, with Roman law as their foundation and Greek secular/Pagan learning mixed with Christianity. They were a barrier to Muslim invaders of Europe in the east, they invented the Cyrillic alphabet and encouraged the slavs to worship Christianity in their own tongues while the Catholicism forced Latin on everyone. In a time of ignorance they encouraged learning and with their impressive culture, they turned former enemies into their own servants.

Here a list of LATIN articles you imbecile 'murrikan subnormal:

Indefinite Article:
Latin uses demonstrative pronouns for specifying which noun, e.g. “this” or “that.”
hic (masculine singular), hic liber (this book)
illa (feminine singular) illa domina (that mistress)
hoc (neuter singular) hoc verbum (this word)
hī (masculine plural) hī librī (these books)
illae(feminine plural) illae dominae (those ladies)
haec (neuter singular) haec verba (this word)

English is a mix of Saxon, Frisian, Jute, Anglo, Norse and a bunch of "romantic" words thrown in by French speaking Norsemen.

Pig -Germanic
Pork -Italic

Cow -Germanic
Beef -Italic

Deer -Germanic
Vension -French

Fantastic means more than good in English. In French it just means good.

English was looked down upon by the Norman elite but as the languages melded together as the first English court in English was in line 1300s, the biggest remaining effect on English was the higher or lower meanings many words that translate to their original language means exactly the same, but we view the French (and in modern day Latin) equivalent as a more serious or emotional 'romantic' version.

English is a Germanic language. It had a ton of influence from Norse on the basis of Norse grammar, not so much day words. We dropped genders, and only very recently dropped all of our cases. The reason for this is a need to communicate, and the nobility not actually speaking English except in Parliament for a very long time. The language didn't have any standard, they viewed it as a mud language.

The grammar is Germanic, look at Frisian or Afrikaans. They both recently dropped cases, and Afrikaans even got rid of auxillary verbs and just says 'is'.

80% of the words we use on a daily basis are of Germanic origin. If you don't believe me look up the song "Northern End" which is a middle English song that is very beautiful. It may not sound understandable at first, but look up the great vowel shift we had.

I'm fucking ashamed of you Brits saying it's a fucking Romantic language, fucking retards.

This is my major so I autism more about this if anyone wants.

most of these words are germanic
you-->thou>du
daily-->dag
in-->i
our-->vår

>demonstrative pronouns are the same as the definite article
That 'De' word you were throwing around earlier isn't even in your own link
Nice try though faggot

Those aren't articles retard.

They are demonstrative pronouns.

The case system and declensions encompass articles.

>with no Cases
>a full-fledged language

Ha-ha-ha.. No.

>he thinks that ordinary people spoke the written form of High Latin rather than a simplified dialect or Ancient Greek

Those are LITERALLY Indefinite Articles, but you are too much 'Murrican (then subnormal) to understand it.

Stop embarrassing yourself holy shit.

Read some fucking Chaucer you fucking retard. Or beowolfe.

Blow, northerne wynd,
Send thou me my suetyng!
Blow, northerne wynd,
Blou, blou, blou!

Ichot a burde in boure bryht,
That fully semly is on syht,
Menskful maiden of myht,
Feir ant fre to fonde;
In al this wurhliche won,
A burde of blod and of bon
Never yete y nuste non
Lussomore in londe.

It's totally Latin guys xd I'm a high schooler xD

Actually the majority of English is made up bullshit because the French and Frank's hated the English and thought them lower than peasants

No they LITERALLY are not

Indefinite articles are a/an look it up.

>england was invaded so many times the language changed
>england was subject to foreign colonisation
>england is an indigenous population that deserves their land back

full circle

A/an are Definite articles you imbecile. Again, 'Murrican scholar system.

Yes, English originated as a Germanic language, but now it has become far more latinized.
Why do you care, and what are the implications of this?

>Fantastic means more than good in English. In French it just means good.
Wot ? it means out of the ordinary, or design the fantastic literature genre.
"Cette situation est fantastique"(This situation is fantastic) means depending on the context
-This is an out of this world/crazy situation
-This is an awesome situation.
Rest is right, and it shows even in insults.Someone telling you that you're a snooty cunt insults you in english, someone telling you that you're a pompous imbecile insults you in French.

>indefinite article

m80

Those are words like 'a' or the various 'ein-' forms in German

Not the word 'This', or 'That', which are indeed demonstrative pronouns. They are referring to a specific instance, not a general instance; see here -

'This OP is being a faggot'
Referring to you specifically.

'An OP is being a faggot'
Referring to any OP, but probably you.

Kek I know you're trolling now.

Oh, thanks. I knew a bit about the pagan inheritance of Byzantium (from this link: byzantinepagan.org/), but I had no idea about the origin of Cyrillic being influenced by Greek. I knew about Rovas (the Hungarian runes) and I figured Slavs had their own writing system and that from there Cyrillic came, but what you have revealed makes a lot of sense and also explains the whole Russian-Orthodox curches thingy.

vocaroo.com/i/s1DFN5I8Kjr9

This is middle english. English is Germanic


op you're a FUCKING IDIOT reee
desu maybe im wrong but i was under the impression back in those days thats how it was used or something.

u pompous idiot baka

>Unlike English, which has only one indefinite article "the", Latin has 0 articles. Saying "the" or "a/an" is understood.
>Latin has zero articles
From your own link
And demonstrative pronouns are not definite articles
>A/an are Definite articles
Thanks for confirming you were retarded

English is a barbarian language, you are a barbarian that would have been a slave in the great Roman empire

>slave in the great Roman empire

This thread is now going to go from education on language, to education on slavery.

'Slavery' was a class, that held no specific qualities such as race, nationality, etc until the Early modern period at best.

Julius Caesar made several Gallic tribal nobility Senators in Rome, and to my knowledge, many survived his assassination the even the proscriptions of Octavian and Antony.

Nah. It's almost used only as a synonyme for great/awesome nowadays but iirc it comes from phantasticus (?) so you can see the relation with the extraordinary world (phantasma/phantoms).
>u pompous idiot baka
What did you say you arrogant imbecile ?

pls dont be rude frenchie watch ur french

do you know about that saying in english when people are really rude(nowadays it just means swearing) where they'd say PARDON MY FRENCH

AND ONE WORLD CUP

Yeah I know about it. It's quite funny because it's one more reason as to why Brtis are so tsundere with us : They can't stop thinking about us.
The only thing with "English people" is "Filer à l'Anglais", or getting away the englishway/like an english man ,discretly.

> Olde English

ive always loved the french and defend them

france are the anglo's greatest ally fact