Whats wrong with globalism?

Besides the classical "the jews want to enslave us", why are you against it? Sure, it will be some friction at the begining, but after 5 generations it will work out okay.

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Sure, there is gonna be lot of rapes, immigrants leeching welfare, some terrorism attack, but in 400 years it will work okay!

God I hate cucks.


I guess we can´t say "What´s wrong with conservatism?"

It's impractical. The concerns of people in south africa are different than the concerns of people in alaska. Government works best when it is local.

We will punish rape and terrorism. The Middle East can be civilized

here's a lefty argument
just for (you)

No they can´t. Once they reach the majority it´s gonna be YOU who have to change. This is the reason why leftists like you don´t wanna ever go to Africa or Middle east to help with industry, because you hate hard work, yo only want middle-class to suffer the worst of the immigration meanwhile you "wait" in your safe zone.

This.

Globalism is impractical (from a completely rational perspective - this is assuming that people didn't intuitively and emotionally DESPISE IT) until there is a 1 world culture. For that you need a 1 world language as well.

I like speaking in Polish and Polish culture.
I don't want to share the same country with Russians and Ukrainians.

>gypsy pro no borders globalist

What a surprise

Because it's at a smaller scale that people can organize to defend themselves against the abuse of their elite. They need a common culture and care for each others.

Otherwise divide-and-conquer works too easily. That's what they've been doing and it's working. Even a cultural self-hatred has been induced.

Personally I think every "people" on earth should have a right to their nation and some degree of self-governance. Peace and cooperation could still be achieved. But the US is imperialistic and wants to incorporate everything into its financial system.

Because it forces Joe Bloggs from Michigan to compete with Wang Chung from China. Your average guy can't up and move to where the jobs are, but the rootless cosmopolitan elite can easily move their businesses offshore if labour costs are not to their liking.

Nothing. It's inevitable.

Take a look at: This is the weak shit that opposes it. Simple misunderstanding is the best that they can come up with. Globalism isn't "one government, one culture." It's "all governments, all cultures, together."

Despite the false analogies of mixed paint turning brown? The truth is that we are getting closer together simply because of communication and transit. If people can talk to each other, which they can, and people can move to be nearer each other, which they can, then they will. Bureaucracies will have to catch up to the speed of jets.

And it'll happen. Two, maybe three generations? We'll have a new concept of nations, same way as Westphalia gave us the one that you and I have today. It's gonna get a little messy.

But it's "globalism" is going to trite, in thirty years. The world is simply too capable to be held at bay by nationalism.

because how about I don't want to be an ethnic minority in my own fucking country because liberal scum feel guilty about shit their family likely had nothing to do with from over 100 years ago?

Fuck this diversity is strength shit.

and fuck Globalism.

>Despite the false analogies of mixed paint turning brown? The truth is that we are getting closer together simply because of communication and transit. If people can talk to each other, which they can, and people can move to be nearer each other, which they can, then they will. Bureaucracies will have to catch up to the speed of jets.


Why do you assume that the people living in shitty worlds wouldn´t want to live in your cute world and rape your women? Think about this:

* In your mind: third worlders have to work and respect your culture.

* In reality: Not only they can earn more money without working thanks to cucks paying taxes, they can rape your women and say it´s their hard conditions who made them do it. They have x20 times more children, it´s gonna be YOU who have to adapt.

>see flag

Well when Hillary decides to bring muslims I hope you accept them insulting your women and living leeching welfare.

You're confusing globalisation with globalism.

> The world is simply too capable to be held at bay by nationalism.

Not when 2/3 of the world are still in the medieval period. This forced globalism will simply result in conflict. See Europe.

Your anger accomplishes nothing. It will lose, because people get things done. Fundamentally, we need people to do work, and your position is "less work accomplished!"

That's what nationalists don't get. When you say "exclude someone" you're saying "exclude opportunity." You lost this argument two centuries ago.

>Why do you assume that the people living in shitty worlds wouldn´t want to live in your cute world and rape your women? Think about this:
They will. Two generations later? My world and their world will be the same thing and it won't matter.

Also I forgot to mention that I´m sure people like you don´t go to certain countries, yet you wanna bring those class of people?

In Europe we are living the minority dictatorship. Even if they almost kill your son, they are gonna be innocent. Is that kind of world you want to leave to your children?

Don´t be a cuck.

Except it oppresses people. Multinationals operate outside the scope of the laws of their own nations. Workers become more disposable than ever. They have no bargaining power.

This matters. Leftists used to oppose things like this. Now the """left""" benefits the capitalist elite even more than the right.

Democracy already barely works given how large and divided the current nation states have become. How could it possibly work a world scale? It cannot.

And all governments working together while still properly representing their citizenry is wishful thinking at best. Globalization is all about disempowering local governments in matters of economy and trade.

It's not about what I want. It's about what will happen. What you and I value and desire and want?

Not relevant to conversations about how the world is.

In Europe they are like 3 generations and they are getting more and more radical. Why do you assume they have to change? It´s you who will have to adapt.

This is another proof that leftist support the rape.

you have a misunderstanding. 'all governments, all cultures together' does not work and can not work because of mutually exclusive cultural practices. You need a one world culture (and language) before it could work.

How do you make an arab muslim who expects call to prayer 5 times a day and an atheist frenchman who despises call to prayer happy at the same time?

There are thousands of examples of cultural practices that are mutually exclusive.

Will globalism happen? Eventually, if we don't kill ourselves.

You fail to realize the dividing line that causes tribalism in the first place - scarcity of resources. If we can successfully exploit the resources of our solar system we will enter a post-scarcity (of everything but land mass) era.

>Multinationals operate outside the scope of the laws of their own nations.
You hit the nail on the head. That is precisely why globalism is inevitable.

>You need a one world culture (and language) before it could work.
Because why? Oh right: you made that part up and it is based on nothing.
>There are thousands of examples of cultural practices that are mutually exclusive.
Yes, there are. And they exist side-by-side today. And they will exist side-by-side tomorrow. Oil and vinegar separate. But you can still put them on the same plate, next to a bread basket. It's called Italian food. We take what we want from each, operate on a level that is an amalgam, and move on.

>That is precisely why globalism is inevitable.
Protectionism and capital control laws fixes it. There used to be more of those following the world wars. Now we're returning to pre-WW1 level of international laissez-faire. But it is not unavoidable. There are political cabals pushing for it, some opposing it. And there's propaganda and memetic warfare going on.

>Because why? Oh right: you made that part up and it is based on nothing.

it is based on the next part of my post, the part you quoted. You need a one world culture to stop mutually exclusive cultural practices and you need a one world language to enable communication. You did not answer my question about the Arab and the Frenchmen, by the way.

>Yes, there are. And they exist side-by-side today.

Exactly, side by side, under separate systems. Separately. And they are separate because the people that live 'side by side' want to be separate from each other. Your idea that people don't want this doesn't change the observed reality that they do. By observed by reality, I mean global census and demographic data. Humans are overwhelmingly tribal due to resource scarcity. Your metaphor of oil, vinegar and bread creating italian food leaves out this very important fact. You see, Italian food is an amalgam of the resources Italians have on hand. That is why it is made as it is. As long as there is not infinite food and water and money and shelter, humans will form groups and then compete and fight for the available resources. This fact of human nature is the reason globalism hasn't occurred over 100 years after flight was popularized.

Since this thread seems to be aimed at "Muh Diversity" rather than globalism...

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Globalism = white genocide

What's wrong with independence? Why is it either globalism or starvation? There something crooked about a deal that is made mostly behind close doors and in selective company.

Because at the end of the day, the government is essentially a service provider. and when you only have one service provide ala, Globalism, you have nothing to compare with. Imagine if the whole world was africa, we could all be starving, but we would just assume that this is the way it is. having nothing to compare to.

It will result in the extinction of the white race and the lowering of living standards around the world

The only people who benefit from globalization are the billionaire class

There is a misconception when people think of Globalisation. They think all laws everywhere will apply to everyone, when that is clearly not the case.

It would involve completely open borders, sure, but there would still be a need for governments of countries, states and then local areas.

It's literally the same concern people had with federalisation when Australia decided to just become a country instead of half a dozen shitty territories.

tl;dr its just ignorant people spewing retarded shit

Exclude opportunity for what?

The devaluation of labor?
The fracturing of homogenous societies?
The destruction of unique cultures and peoples?

I for one do not want any of that

Globalism is a tool to destroy folk culture and traditions.

It should be more accurately called povertization, not globalization.

The entire point is to reduce labor costs, which means no more middle class, which means oligarchy.

That's a side effect

The reason why it's happening is because Big Everything wants to destroy the value of labor

Good luck competing against someone for a job when they're willing to work it for peanuts

Good luck standing up a union to advocate for pay and workers' rights when there's a million people ready and willing to take your job

It will destroy the working class firstly and quickly and then it will destroy the middle class and ultimately you're left with the ultra wealthy being even wealthier and even more secure in their position than they were before

If you hate globalism, STOP SUPPORTING IT. Don't buy phone or technology made in China or anywhere else than your country. Globalism is strong only because you're making it strong.

so is communism

neocons are basically commies btw

It makes low skilled workers (and eventually even "professionals") only as strong as the weakest link.

If all low skilled workers in the world can produce at the same rate of output then conpanies will always pick the cheapest country to operate in.

In response governments either make businesses less profitable or find a other way to support the now jobless working class.

This strains the whole system and will eventually reach the mystical 1%.

>Nothing. It's inevitable.
This is literally one the most abused Jew arguments ever.

>Globalism is inevitable.
It's not asshole, if we could keep a little thing that is called "sovereignty".

> a fucking mehican calling a romanian a gypssy

=))

Globalism shares a lot of common things with Communism.

Take architecture for example. Globalist architecture is always cold, bleak, "urban", just as Communist architecture is. And both are meant to alienate people away from their original culture.

>It makes low skilled workers (and eventually even "professionals") only as strong as the weakest link.
That's digitalization. It's coming eventually.

The same thing that's wrong with empires in general, except on a bigger scale.

The fact that those pushing for world empire also happen to be nihilist, eugenicist psychopaths who think that they are gods and humanity is their cattle.

We don't have a Nokia here

I don't even know if there is an American made smartphone out there or any electronic products for that matter

Globalism doesn't care about alienating people from their culture it seeks only to enlarge profit margins

Cannot second this enough.

History repeats itself. Any empire is great example to support this case, only on a smaller case. Unnatural, forced entities don't ever hold up.

Humans are very complicated about that. We have fences that give us privacy from our very own neighbors, we try to avoid everything that is shared or public if possible, and OP suggests a shared world.

Everybody loses their soul and everything becomes a bland homogenized mass of cultureless mundanity, the only culture is Judaism reserved for the elites

It's not hard to see oneself as a god when you make more money in one day than the average person makes in a year and I don't think they're nihilist for the most part they just believe that their ideas are best

>What is bad about government acting in the interests of corporations instead of the interest of its people.

Nokia isn't Finnish anyway. It was bought by Microsoft so they use Foxconn for assembling the devices just like everyone else.

Fairphone is the only choice but it sucks. Or just stop using a phone. Or deal with the fact you need globalization and digitalization as much as anyone else.

To continue, I wouldn't be concerned if it was a Christian empire. The problem is that it's an atheist, socialist empire, where people sincerely believe that we are just "evolved" animals that can be experimented on and managed like cattle by "experts". I don't want "gay marriage" and abortion (child slaughter); I don't want promiscuity and all the other degeneracy that the elites push on poor families in order to destroy them and curb "overpopulation". Our elites are Malthusian, Darwinist psychos. That's why I oppose what they are doing. They don't believe in any Law above themselves, they believe that they are gods that can write the law that suits them.

Of course we need trade but globalization is a lot more than that namely the importation of cheap labor and the exportation of manufacturing

It's the loss of jobs and destruction of cultures that people have a problem with and these are mutually exclusive from trade

What does that have to do with globalism? You don't need to move people around to achive that.

Oh, and I laugh at those that seriously think that globalism will work and humanity will unite and we'll all hop on spaceships to conquer the galaxy.

This has been tried before and it'll fail this time just as it failed last time.

The whole direction of modern society is to remove God and put Man in God's place. This has happened before and it was predicted to happen again. Soon men will look up at the sky with the fear of God again.

Globalism will lead to rampant overuse/waste of natural resources that inevitably bring about an inability to sustain humanity. That's why. Idiot.

>tfw jews are pushing for globalism so they can build a giant transmutation circle and turn everyone into a Philosopher's stone

the idea of globalism is born of naiveté

there will never be world peace and globalism will never be something that we should care for

> extinction of the white race

How? Just because non-whites from around the world can easily go wherever they want, it doesn't mean the most white girls will accept to have a babies with them

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It's working though? Globalism on economic level is neoliberalism. It's why you can eat McDonald's instead fish and chips in London.

>Besides the classical "the jews want to enslave us"

That's pretty much the only problem I have with globalism desu

>It's working

The Roman Empire was working.

Because white birth rates are below sustainment level while black and brown are way above that

Whites will end up being swamped out existence

Just look at what China is doing to the Tibetans
They are flooding Tibet with millions of Han to the point where Tibetans are a tiny minority in their own land

Look at what happened to the Native Americans in the United States
Much moreso than fighting wars with them it was the tens of millions of European immigrants who simply swamped them out of existance

Also the Third World is the way that it is because of the people who live there
When you fill your country with Third World people it will inevitably become Third World itself

It will be a race to populate the world with your kind. And the Muslims are winning.

> Muslims hate western culture
> Jews hate everyone
> West hates Muslim culture
> communist hate capitalist

A (((global world))) will be won by one race/culture/ideology.

That sounds like EU logic. You either have one government which actively destroys one region to prop up another or you have many governments constantly bickering with each other so nothing positive can get done.

Second post best post.

with a single world government where can political dissidents seek asylum?

It won't be won by Islam

Western Culture is rapidly consuming Islam even in their own lands

What will win out is communism for the masses and capitalism for the elites because this is keeps the elites where they are and ensures the impotence of the masses

White people bread like rabbits in 18-20th century. We will not disapear, our population number is stabilazing because we live in good condition.

People from Africa and Middle East don't need globalism to bread as they do now, but they do will reduce the number of kids they have once they get a better life.

>We will not disapear, our population number is stabilazing because we live in good condition.

How naïve can you be?

Just look at the United States

The overwhelming majority of children being born here are LATINO
It shouldn't be too hard to see that what follows is logarithmic decay of the white population

You simply cannot import foreigners en masse and expect demographics to stay the same

And even if Third Worlders begin to breed at a slower rate after 3 generations then it still doesn't matter because the damage is done

Anyone who has taken an elementary differential equations course can see this reality

Take a look at parts of London or northern england or Sweden and you'll see muslims are creating their own mini caliphates within other countries. They are not being absorbed by western culture. No alcohol. women in burquas. Sharia law. etc etc

The elite think they'll get a docile world workforce. They'll get anarchy and Islam.

There's many more pakis listening to grime and having a cheeky sniff of the kezzy than there are following sharia law

> The Middle East can be civilized
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAH

because i'm a low-grade 1st worlder, and i have no interest in competing with hungry, motivated 3rd worlders who will work harder for less money than me

my forefathers didn't give me all the benefits of living in a western country so that Johnny Foreigner can take it away from me

>muh linear history

>after 5 generations it will work out okay.
yes, i'm sure you can accurately predict how things develop 100+ years into the future

lmao are you even serious

Yes just like the Saudi royals fly out instagram models to their palaces so they can shit in their mouths. Out in the open they're cutting off hands and beheading apostates.

>Two generations later? My world and their world will be the same thing and it won't matter.

yes, bringing our own living conditions down to third world shithole tier is a really compelling argument to support your lunacy

do you even listen to what you are proposing you clown?

are Theresa will solve the JF problem

Nothing is wrong with it, we will settle on Mars soon and that just the first step.
Earth will just be one planet just like germany is one country right now, it will be governed by probably one faction.
The only thing thats wrong with globalism is how fast and extreme its forced onto everyone right now.
People are not ready. People need to adept. Islam needs to adept. Niggers need to adept. Problems in each country need to be solved before they are forced onto each other by the global elite.
Nothing is wrong but the rate it's going right now.

Only supports globalism so his Gypsy family can move to western Europe

That's the problem you stupid kraut. We won't get to the moon if we mix with niggers. The collective IQ after a complete merging of races would be around the 80s, meaning we would probably all just kill each other like they already do in the 2nd and 3rd worlds. We need to get rid of non-whites so we can travel to space or the human race is doomed forever more.

>moon

I meant fucking mars n shiiet.

Race is inextricably tied to culture

It's silly to think that nonwhites can maintain and carry on white culture

RED ROCKS

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I never said i want negros in my country right now. Maybe in 100 years.
Maybe they killed each other until then.
I also don't want one single mudslime in germany either.
Globalism is not the same as racemixing and 0 borders i believe.

The % of white people will decrease, but it wont be a "white genocide"

How to fix immigration:
Allow them to come over, but neither them nor their children have the right to vote.
Their children's children do though, provided they are found to be sufficiently westernized.
If they are found to be harboring latent islamist beliefs, they are put to death.
Given these risks I doubt any would want to come here anyway, especially after we abolish welfare

I never said it was a genocide but the simple fact remains that when you breed below replacement level you die out

That's quite simply inarguable

Why would you want people with low IQs in your country ever?

Just look at the United States if you want to see what having black people in your county is like

That's what you get for building your country with slaves.

There is no need in global world. Because there is no another world to oppose it. If/when the aliens show up - yes, but for now it's just useless and we better be separate.

>It's not about what I want. It's about what will happen.
i agree

Go ahead and invite millions of black people into your country and see how you like it

I have a feeling that you're so pro globalization because your nation hasnt really been touched by it

You'd be hard pressed to find anyone but dyed in the wool liberals in the West supporting globalization and even the true Marxists amongst them don't like it because they know it destroys the working class

Is the classic not enough already?

what's the average wage throughout the world?

civilize your gyppos first

You don't get it, do you? What is defined as "cizilized" is seen differenty by every party. The middle east does not want "our" civilization. They want to be left alone and say fuck off to the west.

Globalization is no different than imerpialism, forcing everyone under the same system, same values, same morals, same laws etc... How can people not get this? Every kind of actual difference in culture will be destroyed in the long run and they even make sure to destroy the races with it ...