Iceman

What is next for him in terms of character development Sup Forums?

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Iceman always felt kinda gay to me, even when comics shipped him. Angel, too.

If his new series and younger version are any indication, this

Character development? What's that? Is it homophobic? It's probably homophobic. Let's just continue to focus on nothing but Bobby's gayness. Surely, the gay Omega Mutate himself has nothing better to do than to gayly continue telling us about his gay sexuality, which is gay.

Within the next ten years he'll finally be allowed to be bisexual, or his sexuality will get retconned again.

That sounds pretty gay

I suspect one of his five fans is gonna get pissed off enough that they weasel their way into writing his book, and ruin his character further by trying to focus too hard on how he's an omega level mutant only to make him come across as having gone evil. then editorial will have him killed off and never brought back for at last seven years

What a shame and loss, use to be a huge fan of him

50yrs of character history down the degenerate faggot drain.

the LGBT flag is honestly the worst thing to happen to the gay community besides AIDs.
Because people don't think gay people are "fruity" enough without some rainbow abomination.

But really, thanks mainstream media, I totally appreciate you feminizing all gay men so I can't find anyone I actually like.
This is totally what LGBT needed.

>Bisexuality
Didn't you read the issue?
FULL
GAY

I fucking hate flamers and it's not because they like dick.
>"Congratulations, you're gay! Here's your lisp with a bonus -40% muscle mass and emotional stability reduction."

I feel sorry for gay men who like actual men and not effeminate panty-wastes, though I've heard that there is a movement beyond just the bear fetishists fighting it.

there is.
some gay guys try to hard to fight it though, being "that guy" on the the right wing that "totally hates degenerates" and acts as their gay friend.

A lot of us just don't want sexuality to even be political, it's just what we like.
It fucking sucks, not only is it hard meeting other "normal" gay people in real life but of course your straight friends think you should get together with any faggot they know.
I've stopped even confiding in people, it literally never did me any good.

It turns our Jean was mistaken.
He is bisexual.

*turns out

>but of course your straight friends think you should get together with any faggot they know.
Gay people don't get have relationships, they have sex in bathrooms with random people. I mean yeah you can get married now, but who lets a commitment like that get in the way of hedonistic, meaningless sex? You can't get pregnant so why bother conforming to outdated ideals like devotion or being faithful?

>Friction and eventual acceptance by parents
>Cameos in his comic featuring every male lgbtq character they can think of
>Someone comes out to him in the end
>Awkward first date with a guy that ends with something screwing up but the guy giving him another chance
>Minority boyfriend
>Weird double date with younger self and his awful inhuman boyfriend
>IcemanBlue makes a comic where he gets gangbanged, screws his old girlfriends and eventual boyfriend at once, fucks his younger self or gets raped alongside younger self. Pic Related.

This is the future of Iceman.

The future Jean chose.

I actually like the comic and its episodic adventures

I know you arent trying to be funny, but god damn did I laugh. I felt bad about it, but I still laughed. Maybe because I'm 5'4 and only date women taller than me. I hope you find your preferred specimen of manly tho

it's been proven that having more sexual partners makes you less happy.
And yet homosexuals have twice the number of sexual partners of straight men and women.

Sex, even gay sex, has emotional implications that hedonists (both gay and straight) try to shake off and avoid because they see it as false guilt enforced by society.
It's not the case, sex and mental health go hand in hand.
You don't have to stay a virgin until you find "the one" or you're ruined, but anonymous sex takes a psychological toll a lot of people don't recognize.
I don't ever want to be one of those guys who fucks around just because he's gay and that's what's expected of me.

that's fine brother.
If you can laugh at the irony of my predicament then power to you.

gay men in media aren't made for gay men, they're made for straight women and college students

This, this is why I mourn for the loss of stoicism and classical epicurianism. Moderation is the key to leading a happy, healthy life. Why does it always have to be fucking extremes?

Don't forget pervs on the internet who wanna fap to traps

I dont think its irony, its just the universe conspiring to make your preferences either socially unacceptable or just plain difficult to find. Hopefully the pendulum of such things will swing back the other way soon
At least people dont presume to ask you why you bother dating, as if being short means I should live alone on a mountain somewhere.

I'm just glad I live in an era where no one questions or makes a big deal out of me not dating or having any plans to marry anyone or anything.

>Why does it always have to be fucking extremes?
Because extremes are born of childish desires that were never moderated by strong parental guidance. I see this everywhere these days, even in my own brother's kids. Stifling your child in any way is being seen as anathema these days and we're seeing the fallout of what this is creating in the newest generation

>"Do whatever you want! And if there are any repercussions for doing it, they're not really you're fault. They're just unfair expectations leveled against you that must be destroyed so you don't feel bad anymore."

Just like the Health At Every Size people. They feel bad about being fat and lash out at society because they believe their inability to check their own compulsion to eat is only considered negative because doctors and society at large are bullying them.

Make him transgender.

Don't kid yourself, the kind of people who write this tripe openly hate bisexual men. See: Herc.

he will fade into obscurity like ever other gay x man.

Those of you who are just regurgitating the same opinions that were on the story time of this weeks Iceman or the nearly weekly thread to often 2/3 x a week thread about Jean's forcible gay rape of Bobby's mind and his 50 years yadda yadda are just pretty sad - to be this booty blasted about a fictional character that has only had two other solo runs, one a mini and the other barely lasting I think 6 or 8 issues.

As for the rest, sex is like anything else - excessive amounts of alcohol or drugs or food can be and often are bad for you. You should individually make up your own mind what works for you and respond accordingly.

As far as character development, Mighnighter had more of it in the first two arcs of his mostly violent, standard superhero self-titled where he was supposed to kill Hitler than in his mini in 2015 or last year's Midnighter and Apollo mini. But either were better than the slow path to discovery that Bobby has been on over 5 issues. Issue 4 was better than the other ones mostly because things happened. His gayness and coming out wasn't the focus, dealing with Douche Wolverine and the Obnoxious Stupid Mutant Twink were. They need more things like that, were the gay is part of the story, not all of it, and it's not an issue or a major factor, just an ordinary thing like it would be if it was Dinah and Ollie, or Peter and MJ, etc.

I should have specified western media. Yeah traps are for that "I'm totally not gay I just wanna fuck this boy" crowd.

It will prolly take a universe sized reboot for it to happen. But Marvel wants to pander to non buying sjws so no chance of that in a while
I'd really like for Marvel to make Bobby straight again, not because I'm a fan of any iteration of the character, but more to see how long it would take for the outragers obsessed "fans" to forget about it

Nothing. He's the token gay now, and that's all he'll ever be. Because diversity in comics means shoehorning in a member of a currently trendy group, doing fuck all with them, and then patting yourselves on the back. I hate SJW's so very goddam much.

He should fight the shocker

Mutants are immune to aids.

>shocker
>not electro
I smell a sourkraut

fine, happy?

Why are you so obsessed about this? It's been years and Sup Forums still has multiple daily threads about Iceman being gay. Who fucking cares.

His fans care

#makeIcemanStraightAgain
#StopLiberalMentalIllness

Why are so obsessed with these people? There's been multiple threads on why this was a bad move and there are still posts that can't ignore the threads (you). Who fucking cares? You do apparently. And me for responding ofc

kinda want an Iceman gay porn comic called The Iceman Cometh now

Hormones. Those are not pecs, those are tits.
What an absolute fag.

she did eat them all
the crazy lady

What hell? Sex In the City was written by gay men in how they imagine straight women behave in NYC.

this desu.
why couldnt they make a shitty character like angel or jubilee gay. why fucking iceman.

>I feel sorry for gay men who like actual men

You really should. The fem gays had an absolute shitfit when "masc4masc" became a thing. God forbid anyone have preferences.

Bobby's shit and always has been so who cares

death

>about Jean's forcible gay rape of Bobby's mind and his 50 years yadda yadda are just pretty sad
You can say whatever you want about that, but that development is A LOT more itneresting than what Bendis did. Even if its true there's been gay hints through the decades of Bobby's inexistent development, the running meme is more true to what the characters involved do and have done in the past.
Sure, I'm gay and whatever, it doesnt mean im gonna drink the kool-aid just because MUH REPRESENTATION NO MATTER WHAT. Do it right or at least make it interesting.

Don't go into the bathroom after her. Jesus.

will he get a delevoped romance like northstar
or just a guys with a name fitting for marvel next crossover

We need more hard gays.

it would be funny to see the same people who celebrate Bobby being gay, to HATE it if/when Bobby turns bisexual.
>Complaining about gay erasure
>While dissing bi erasure at the same time.
Its gonna be glorious

Learning to better control his powers. The latest book already re-established that he feels reluctant to fully explore his omega level powers so that's a goos long term goal for the character I guess.

Death?

I certainly don't care about him anymore.

Actually something i noticed is that actual faggots seem to be the ones who go with the Jean meme and dislike the change of sexuality the most.

that's nothing to what she normally eats.

fem gays are shitty people.

Because it's dumb. There are so many better gay characters you could push and you chose iceman. This is just a cynical and lazy move.

Nowhere. Honestly, Bobby dead-ended as a character years ago. So who cares if he sucks dick now? Iceman always sucked dick. Hell, even Warren's more interesting than Bobby.

>it's a bobby learns to tap into his full potential episode

Kill me now.

Gay here. Bobby's shit and Bendis only did it for attention.

And to keep Bobby away from Kitty forever.

But at least it kills off the retarded Iceman/Mystique pairing.

Always hear the jokes about how Kitty is Bendis' waifu, but why people say that? Just because he gives her spotlight?

He had ultimate kitty date his self-insert.

his first dick in the ass. his ass is still virgin.

I thought that was Captain Planet

Does Bendis even know there are other gay characters in Marvel?

I doubt it. He seems to think this is the first time there's ever been a gay character in comics.

Y'know, as a dude who likes dudes, this whole Iceman thing actually kinda pisses me off with how folks are patting themselves on the back and treating it like it's groundbreaking. It feels sort of condescending.

I mean, sure, more representation is nice, I guess. It's at least nice to not always be taking a backseat to the lesbians. But we've got plenty of established gay characters who could use some attention instead of stirring shit up for internet slacktivist brownie points.

And more importantly, as a comic book geek, flipping old, established characters upside down like this will never not bug me.

The thing about Bendis is that HE wants to be remembered for stuff no matter what, writing another character that someone else made gay is not enough for his ego, same for Riri, instead of using Rhodes's niece and develop something from hee, he goes and pull a new character out of his ass

>Wiccan and Hulkling exist
>they could easily be the next Midnighter and Apollo.

>Northstar has never gotten a solo title

>Freedom Ring is just waiting to be brought back to life

>Hey, let's make the most heterosexual X-Man gay!

It hurts...

Instead we get

>Bobert

Fuck. It feels like I'm being made fun of. Is that what this is? Some elaborate joke?

Probably because he puts her in everything he writes. She was Spiderman's girlfriend in USM, Starlord's girlfriend in Guardians and Magik's girlfriend in X-Men.

>Because people don't think gay people are "fruity" enough without some rainbow abomination.
Same here.
Hell, I don't even know why "fabulous" gay men even act the way they do.
I mean, are they supposed to act like women? Real women don't act like that at all.

Fabfags are the only people that I know who are happy with conforming to the mainstream stereotype.

Illyana is too pure for this, and she's Kitty's best friend since ever

>she's Kitty's best friend

Shut up! No, she's not!

>basic faggots still blaming flamers for all their problems

How embarrassing. Even a self hater like Milo can Indulge in some FABULOUS sometimes

So many x-characters needing more love

They are? How, no really how does that make any sense

Tell me about it

Trips dont lie
Fem gays aren't people, they're faggots

As a recovering queen, I can tell you that--for me at least--it was a confrontational thing. When you feel like the world's telling you to keep your mouth shut, stay out of sight, and generally don't make waves, it can be pretty tempting to throw it in people's faces when you screw up the courage to come out. Less admirably, I'll admit it was a power thing too. When you feel marginalized and pushed aside and despised by folks, the ability to make people uncomfortable at will can get kind of addictive. So yeah, at least some of the time it's just being an jackass.

But it's the sort of thing you can get over if you want to. I did around the time I needed to get a real job. That said, some of it's still just personal proclivity. I remain fairly fabulous in my downtime, just not particularly swishy anymore. The ability to have straight friends (and honestly, more friends in general) took some getting used to.

At the end of the day, it's a kind of gay militancy. And militancy of any sort (while occasionally necessary) disturbs and upsets most people.

Ice man was one of my favorite mutants when i was growing up. wtf is this ?!

Aids?

Why actually develop Wiccan and Hulkling when you can stick them into cliched situations that relay on how extremly gay they are

>spoiler
Kitty's clearly a Petersexual (when she isn't a poorly closeted lesbian) and Bobby was just an outlier from when she was getting experimental.

He must start an Ice-cream shop.
I bet he's quite good with it.

very interesting development. can some user tell where the autors of this gay iceman do live?

Conversion therapy hopefully.

Same and the sad part is that most people want it to stay for "character development" like Cyclops dying.

No need, as it has been clearly established at being anything but a cis-male is all the character definition needs. As long as your character is trans, or bi, or gay, or identifies as an armchair you don't need to write actual character traits. All that matters is that you check that box.

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>Punisher Has Had Enough

That's not what that looks like at all.

Of course they don't. It's like 80's wrestling. All you need is a nationality and you're good.

95% of /lgbt/ men

"Look at me now:
I'm fully charged
When slightly aroused my dick is large
I'll soon be out without a trace
So take this aill
Right to yor face!"


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I'm gonna rate the gayest boards on this gay as site.
1. Gif
2. Fit
3. Co
4. Lgbt never been there though

No because the writers of Iceman are SJW's and they don't like bisexuality because it implies some form of choice in the hot mess that is sexual orientation. The prefer characters to be easily understood charicatures with no complexity so that they don't have to think about or consider multiple issues or viewpoints.

So what stops Iceman from accidentally activating his powers in the middle of sex, causing his anus to freeze his lover's penis and break it off?

too bad all the /polgbt/ fan art is shit tier

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I'd read Iceman if he was having a loving relationship with his younger self from Blue.

As awkward and stupid as both are written, they'd be perfect for each other, and would make each other a lot less lonely.

Looks like captain planet.

>Bendis only did it for attention.
That's all he does, he desperately wants his name to be up there with Kirby, Stan Lee, Ditko, and all those who are considered Marvel's greatest.

And the only way Bendis thinks he'll achieve that is by pure shock value or by jumping into fads because the thinks that will give him brownie points.

It's why most of his worthwhile and decent work started before he did Avengers Disassembled, because afterwards he just became about making stories with pure shock value and the tired "things will never be the same" shit and later he got worse about it.

And the fad he jumped right now is the SJW fad, he made Miles because he caught wind in the internet that a few loud people wanted Donald Glover as Peter Parker, since he was obviously running out of ideas in USM he decided to kill Peter (something he pretty much fucked over when he brought him back) and do Miles to get people's attention and get his brownie points as a really innovative and progressive person.

Riri I suspect he wanted to replace Rhodey with her (she initially had a War Machine looking suit) but then just pushed her instead of Tony (which IIRC the original idea according to Alonso was to make Tony the star of the Marvel Universe) and probably thinks in the future people will remember him as being a pioneer writer who wrote about important social issues or introduced progressive characters.