Artists of the past hid their politics in their work and let the public decide for themselves what the themes mean.
Nowadays, artists announce what the work is about and who and what the bad guys represent, often saying "Party who voted for X are the bad guys."
Is it pointless to try and fight this and just go with the flow? Is the former an outdated way to tell stories and being overly blatant is the way to go?
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Nathan Jackson
I don't think that matters. If it bothers you then you can just avoid interviews and blind read things. The execution of it on the page is most important. I don't want flat characters preaching at me whether I agree or disagree on something.
Brayden Morales
>It's a "newfag pretends comics weren't always political!" thread
Josiah Garcia
Seems more like a discussion about marketing than content, though it will likely derail into what you're suggesting.
Elijah Sanders
This. For the love of the white, Christian God, the most iconic Captain America image is him punching out Hitler.
Jose Morales
I mean in stuff that's blatantly "THE KLINGONS ARE TRUMP VOTERS/HILLARY VOTERS ETC ETC." Not even letting the public figure stuff out themselves, not even dropping hints. Just straight on announcing the show going "HEY GUYS, THE PEOPLE YOU HATE IRL ARE THE BAD GUYS HERE! WATCH MY SHOW!"
Ryan Cox
They deserve it for being annoying as fuck and never shutting up on Sup Forums about how opressed they are.
Michael Evans
They were political, but at least they were well written by storytellers, not just people unhealthily obsessed with politics and trying to put out propaganda.
>inb4 a comic from eighty years ago apparently speaks for the seventy nine years after it.
Jack Jones
>Is it pointless to try and fight this and just go with the flow? Logically yes, whether or not you or I agree with what's said you'd be fighting freedom of speech. I myself prefer interpreting the significance of things, often because it requires more perceptiveness from the author the substance of their message to convey it in a way that can be intuitively comprehended, and possibly agreed with, instead of just crammed down your throat as RIGHT, but you can't expect everyone to write what you like or how you like.
All you can do is not buy or read that sort of thing and focus on what does it for you.
Mason Ramirez
Are you purposefully ignoring all the politically charged and propaganda laden comics from cold war era
Ethan James
It's a two-pronged problem. Lack of talent leading to lack of subtlety and also the realities of the market in that you won't get as many consumers if you don't appeal directly to a specific base and guarantee yourself some profit.
Eli Lewis
Which btw, was a lot braver back then when the Nazis weren't full blown super villains yet. Back when they were considered a legit political force at the time. That was a time of true bravery for Jack Kirby.
Juan Walker
Yeah, and those same comics were seen as an embarrassment as "part of the times" by those same creators.
Michael Diaz
To be fair people don't see old shit through a political lense because its just history to them. Punching Hitler isn't political to them because its just what happens in old comics, they don't see it as a call to war that it was.
Grayson Cook
The options are 1. Don't blatantly inject your own politics into your work 2. If you're not creating anything, encourage someone who is not to inject their politics into their work.
Isaiah Sanchez
I wouldn't say "don't inject your politics into your work." More like, "don't let your politics consume you and be the only focus of your work".
Also, "let readers decide for themselves on how to interpret a story".
David Diaz
Politics in work is fine, but execution matters. Like Tom King said recently, you can't put your twitter feed in your comics.
Austin Sanchez
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I mean, shit, kid, Superman was originally a villainous commentary on the Nietzschean Ubermensch. No one's gonna buy that they came out with deep political or philosophical comics just last week.
David Morales
This is very true, but you even see it in people who were reading at the time. I guess nostalgia might be to blame, and perhaps you don't really care whether it was political anymore because the politics you're living with now are different.
Jace Bailey
No the didn't you fucking retard.
Elijah Davis
No they didn't you fucking retard.
Levi Clark
I find it funny people are acting like subtlety is the issue when OP's pick is literally of the feminist character that runs around in the stars and stripes from back when she was a WW2 propaganda tool.