How was Shelob even a threat? The elves demolished an entire forest of spiders in the Hobbit

How was Shelob even a threat? The elves demolished an entire forest of spiders in the Hobbit.

And don't tell me about Lobby's dad he's fucking dead and she's barely even that big.

Literally Sam defeated her of all people alone like fucking what?

Shelob is a descendent of Ungoliant, which was more powerful than Melkor himself, so I don't see why you have a problem with it.

Sam was just lucky in the books, I can't remember the scene in the film.

She wasn't defeated. She hurt herself while toying with a fat little hobbit

Ungoliant wasn’t more powerful than Melkor, just bigger. And since Morgoth could no longer shapeshift at will, he was fucked.

The spiders in The Hobbit were her babies.

She's far larger and stronger than them, and as the others said, Sam got lucky with wielding Sting and his Barrow Blade (both being artifacts).

Shelob was the biggest and mightiest spawn of Ungoliant and many orcs and Gondorians had fallen fighting it.
Sam defeating her was an outstanding achievement that was only possible due to a mix of luck and his determination to protect Frodo.

I doubt normal weapons could even pierce her skin.

Sam was wielding very high level gear.

Was shelob ever a threat to anyone but the two Hobbits?

Shelob was a threat because it was fucking hobbits dealing with it, not elves. There's a difference.

Yeah. Her babies spread to Mirkwood. She ate Orcs 24/7 and also men/elves that tried to get to Mordor through the backdoor.

Why did they make her a sexy grill for the vidya game

No one knew whether Ungoliant was really dead or not. It might have returned if someone killed Shelob.

>Ungoliant
>more powerful than Melkor

Fucking kek. Melkor is a Valar, and one of the most powerful of them all. Ungoliant, while still powerful as fuck, is a fallen Maiar spirit, a member of the lesser race of Ainur. Melkor just got afraid of Ungoliant because she grew to an enormous fucking size.

> Ungoliant was more powerful than Melkor
Melkor was the most powerful being in Middle Earth so no.
Ungoliant did have some epic gear and buffs while Melkor had a resurection debuff

>How Shelob came there, flying from ruin, no tale tells, for out of the Dark Years few tales have come. But still she was there, who was there before Sauron, and before the first stone of Barad-dyr; and she served none but herself, drinking the blood of Elves and Men, bloated and grown fat with endless brooding on her feasts, weaving webs of shadow; for all living things were her food, and her vomit darkness.
>But Shelob was not as dragons are, no softer spot had she save only her eyes. Knobbed and pitted with corruption was her age-old hide, but ever thickened from within with layer on layer of evil growth. The blade scored it with a dreadful gash, but those hideous folds could not be pierced by any strength of men, not though Elf or Dwarf should forge the steel or the hand of Beren or of Tain wield it.
>No such anguish had Shelob ever known, or dreamed of knowing, in all her long world of wickedness. Not the doughtiest soldier of old Gondor, nor the most savage Orc entrapped, had ever thus endured her, or set blade to her beloved flesh. A shudder went through her.
She was a threat even to seasoned warriors.

Why didn't Gimli just have sex with Shelob?
Why didn't Gimli have sex with Eowyn?
Why didn't Gimli steal arwen on her wedding night and rape her until she felt the harrowing pleasure of stony dwarf cock?

Yeah Tolkien has really lost his touch.
No fucking clue why he did this.

Reminder that Hackson cut (or didn't even shoto) the most epic part of the Sam vs Shelob fight. The part where Sam starts speaking in Elvish when he grabs the Phial of Galadriel

I think in the books it's implied the Phial of Galadriel weakened or staggered it. It is the same light as the Silmirals so it would have some effect.

The movies had to trim the narrative so it left out some important stuff.
One detail was the weapons the hobbits were using. In the movie, Aragorn dumps a bag of swords in front of them and tells them to grab one.

In the book they have this crazy side-adventure involving a goofy being of unspecified power and a bunch of ancient zombie-warrior-ghost-things called Barrow Wights. The hobbits get super buffed weapons from that adventure that are better than normal swords at killing evil stuff.

Sounds like she was pretty much invulnerable to anything other than the +9 Sting and +infinity Barrow Blade.

Nigga that's Milla Jovovich.

The Barrow Blades were definitely from out of the world.

Witch King was immune to everything outside of such and that's what did him in in the novel.

Yeah, Merrin also uses one of those swords to fuck up the Witch King's anti-physical damage ward and that's what allows Eowyn to kill him.

>Ungoliant is a fallen Maiar spirit,

She a guardian for the back door into Mordor.

I'd bugger her back door desu

noone knows what Ungoliant was or came from exactly. Or whatever floats about in the dark abyss surrounding Arda and the stars.
Also remember those things that gnaw on the world in the tunnels below arda? The nameless-things? yeah, what the fuck are those; if Maiar belonging to whom? If Morgoth, when why has he never used them?

What if she ate people in that form haha

Why don't you go fist fight a tiger. What's the threat? Pajeets demolished forests of them.

There is a specific passage in the Silmarillion right after they bring down the glowing trees where Morgoth is described to be afraid of Ungoliant.
It was prob because of the light buff, but still.

Ungoliant wrecked Melkor.
The Balrogs saved him

>tfw you watch your gangleader get wrecked and have to jump in to protect him

Melkor basically lost a 1v1t with A FUCKING ELF, of course he's afraid of a giant spider lmao.

didn't Shelob just run away? did Sam kill her? I can't remember.

You say that as if elves in the LotR universe aren't tough as fuck and Fingolfin wasn't one of the most badass motherfuckers in all of Middle Earth.

god damn i get hard reading tolkien

>luck
As if Eru Iluvatar had nothing to do with it.
Sam's faith protected him.

Ungoliant is a creature from another dimension, far more powerful than Melkor could ever hope to be. Melkor was terrified of her
Shelob is just a big spider, feared because she's a huge spider, I'd be terrified of it too

Ungoliant wasn't a maiar brainlet and Morgoth only narrowly escapes her and is obviously frightened by her.

She ran away, and it was the light of elendil that fucked up shelob allowing Sam to stab her

Why didn´t Shelob speak like the spiders from the Hobbit did?

melkor only feared ungoliant after she consumed all the energy from the source of the world's light, before then he wasn't worried.

those were some cosmic roids she got hopped up on.

he was the best of best tho

Melkor, like the retarded faggot he is, spread most of his power into his followers.

He got maimed by based fucking Fingolfin, so yes light-engorged ungoliant made melkor piss his pants. When he tried to keep the silmarils from her, she grabbed him so hard he squealed like a little bitch that literally EVERYONE heard it lol

Then she got her ass kicked by a couple Balrogs.

>far more powerful than Melkor could ever hope to be
lel no.
Prime Melkor would crush her like a shitty bug, but by the time he met her he had greatly weakened himself pouring his power into his twisted creations and the light-buffed Ungoliant was stronger than he was.
>when you scream like a bitch so hard that people can still hear it centuries later