>Guy tries to do something that literally no one has ever done before and create a new black superhero with new original powers (because all superheroes are white and there's no black superheroes) >Made him an Inhuman out of respect of Kirby and because everyone loves the Inhumans >Readers still refuse to give his original and groundbreaking character a chance >Readers would rather read the same boring stories with the same dull white characters like Booster Gold
What happened to comic book readers? How do we fix them and their wrong taste?
>[redacted] Is this weird moderation or just autism
Nathaniel Ramirez
Autism
Jose Richardson
But Marvel already has plenty of black superheroes. If anything one of the biggest problems of ANAD/Now(er) was too much diversity. All the black characters were pushed to the front while the white ones were pushed far to the side. You gotta have a balance.
Lincoln Phillips
You're a total and certìfied retard, even more so than the OP
Jason Hall
>grrrr why won't whitey read my book >better talk shit about more of their own accomplishments
Why are blacks so insufferable Jesus Christ
Adam Peterson
Fuck you, I love Green Lantern.
Jonathan Lopez
>Guy tries to do something that literally no one has ever done before and create a new black superhero with new original powers (because all superheroes are white and there's no black superheroes) >Picture shows him saying soemthing different Nice try, Milo.
David Stewart
Kid Kaiju is half Japanese but Monsters Unleashed doesn't sell well either. I love it but my /ss/goggles are on tight enough to ship Kei x Elsa Bloodstone.
Luis Wood
underrated post
Gavin Campbell
You didn't need to frontload the OP with B8, user. Could have just said "Mosaic's creator is shit, not unlike the comic itself."
Leo Ross
Good on him for trying something new and not destroying an old character. I can't blame his little regressive heart if he wants to mature and expand "diversity", especially since he didn't want the character to be a token.
Gabriel Parker
>not a stereotype of any kind He's a black basketball player. And he's a black guy who's power is STEALING people's bodies.
Dumbass.
Lucas Hall
>hating on based Booster Maybe the KKK is right after all?
Samuel Peterson
Fuck man, posting CBR stuff here is MY job!
Ethan Mitchell
I didn't even realize Monsters Unleashed was a thing.
Wyatt Price
this low-key damage control of made him inhuman out of MUH KIRBY RESPECT and not because ike is shilling inhumans everywhere as a mandate
Hudson Wilson
>this thread again
Parker Brown
Probably because it's also a shithuman
Caleb Butler
Your "What if Deadman was an Inhuman?" black basketball player Doughnut Steel was shit, Thorne.
Bentley Hughes
1. No one cares about Inhumans. Making him an Inhuman was your first mistake. 2. The character itself was just really boring and not very interesting.
Compare this to another Inhuman, Kamala Kahn. Kamala Kahn is popular (although she was more popular before Secret Wars/Civil War2 but I digress). True, she has the mantle of a former superhero, but so did other heroes who crashed and burned. Kamala survived because she had a loving and funny personality. And her writing felt like a modern quirky version of the Lee/ditko Spider-Man era of comics that attracted readers and the media.
Anthony Wood
I'm Doctor Anime Reaction Face, and I'm prescribing some high dosage Redpills ITT:
The reason why new characters aren't selling well is because comics are a dying medium in and of themselves, They're obsolete, and the only real audience they have is the audience they've had for the past 20 years, give or take.
The reason people still read Booster Gold, is because he's Booster Gold, a character whose fanbase is old.
The reason why nobody is buying your new character is that he probably is mediocre, and not at all groundbreaking. You have to be really good to be a popular new comic, especially if you're a superhero.
Easton Kelly
>Kamala Kahn is popular Not anymore she isn't. She's selling worse than Carol.
Chase Gray
You apparently think he was recruited FROM the forums instead of just being an idiot and posting on them. Thorne is stupid, but it's a wonder you can even type.
Camden Bailey
Quality has no bearing on sales.
I don't actually disagree with you but Mosaic could have been groundbreaking and still failed
Hunter Davis
Comics sold more and more year on year for the past 5 years. Comics aren't in trouble, only cape comics might be - and only Marvel at that.
William Robinson
yes but he got cucked instead of doing the cucking
Christopher Jones
>Mosaic >like that gaimanesque GL book starred by John Stewart
Luke Sanchez
No, you either have to have recognition or be good to sell. That's why something like Saga sells, because it's good. You can get by on name recognition, like Whor.
Easton Walker
>Saga sells, because it's good
Caleb Kelly
>Saga >good lmaooooooooooooo
Cameron Bailey
>Saga sells, because it's good. No.
Elijah Williams
>The reason why new characters aren't selling well is because comics are a dying medium in and of themselves Not really true. Damian Wayne and the Court of Owls are fairly recent characters that have been widely accepted and have now featured prominently in media adaptations such as animation, video games, etc. If the characters are actually interesting and not shit then they have a good chance at getting a foothold.
Parker Allen
>minority characters don't get the shots forget about the fact that mutants are minorities regardless of ethnicity. not getting shots? that's false, and you can bring in the minority characters THAT ALREADY EXIST and showcase them.
Nathan Kelly
>Court of Owls >interesting I totally get what you're going for, but you couldn't pick a worse example if you tried.
Matthew Gray
>white characters were pushed to the side false.
GOOD characters were pushed to the side.
Aiden Bailey
Man I agree with him on some points but for fucks sake leave Booster Gold out of this.
Justin Jones
>is because he's Booster Gold, a character whose fanbase is old. Wrong. It's because he's entertaining and charming enough of a character to warrant a degree of adoration from comic book readers in the first place. Of course I'm not at all surprised that the Mosaic's creator couldn't comprehend the idea.
Michael Garcia
different user here
it is superior writing and art to much of the mainstream comics. yes it has some trashy liberal lines in it, but all three of you are in fucking denial.
Justin Ward
Too bad they're more successful and accepted by the wider no matter how much you hate them.
Leo Johnson
I feel like Jon Kent is the next big emergent character. Reception for him has been extremely positive everywhere.
Adam Wood
>Guy tries to do something that literally no one has ever done before and create a new black superhero with new original powers (because all superheroes are white and there's no black superheroes) This probably stems back to the 90s when every new black hero except Rhodey was some henchman turned vigilante with aids. I ain't kidding just look up Shadowhawk or Spawn's pal chapel
Luis Davis
>Marvel writer tries to prop up their character by shitting on DC and their characters. I'm starting to believe that current Marvel writers are handed a script that directs them to shit on DC because this is way too common.
Thomas Kelly
>Still no Superboy jacket avaliable to buy. What the fuck DC?!
Jose Wilson
Why are people shitting on Saga now? This board loved (or at least really liked) it when it cam out
Liam Baker
Fuck your red pills, time for the green and purple medication
Julian Rogers
And you know, has a really great character arc and a personality that's deeper than a puddle.
Jason Phillips
thank you, doctor Trips
Nathan Lewis
>But a few highly placed fanboys keep bringing him back
Booster hasn't shown up in over 5 years (beyond Convergence) and before 52, hadn't done anything but EXTREME Justice. He's probably not the go to guy to claim about pushing.
>dying medium >only print media that has grown in sales the last 5 years Pick one and only one
Zachary Hall
It does seem like it.
Henry James
Damian is an easy pill for people to swallow because he's A) A Robin B) A wayne.
Attaching a new character to the bat family is a surefire way to make them popular, unless the character is just that fucking awful.
Noah Moore
I still read it, but the story has fallen off a bit, it doesn't really seem to be going anywhere. It's not nearly as good as it was in the beginning.
Jeremiah Collins
>Minority characters don't get the shots.
Correct. Minority characters are shit. Characters who happen to be minorites, however, are received just fine.
Oliver Diaz
It's a shame that outcast Talon didn't stick around longer. I enjoyed his stuff and his final fight with Lord Death Man.
Owen Bell
zsasz is a 25 year old character that took 30 years to get an adaptation, what a retarded counterargument. This would make sense if Zsaz was a villain in the Schumacher movie, but guess what, he wasn't!
Ian Martin
Well, they're both WAY better than Mosaic, so sure.
John Cook
swap 30 and 25 my bad
Jordan Stewart
It's no more of a retarded argument than saying "only interesting and not characters get popular" then using the most generic ancient conspiracy as an example, you complete dingleberry.
Jason Richardson
>Attaching a new character to the bat family is a surefire way to make them popular >Cassie Cain >Stephanie Brown >Harper Rowe >Duke Thomas >etc. Sure.
Nathaniel White
I'd say they're all equally one-note boring shit.
Michael Harris
Steph and Cass both had fairly long solo series and are still around today. Harper and Duke are shit though.
Nathan Nelson
> Inhuman You failed even before you began
Isaiah Jenkins
>sons of famous super heroes >not being popular.
Not saying they are bad. but they are not groundbreaking either.
Angel Baker
All of them have pretty dedicated fan bases that constantly create content for them, even if they aren't extremely large. Compare that with someone like Vril Dox II, main character of three titles that span ~150 issues altogether, who at best has a vague connection to Superman and like 15 fans on a good day.
Jose Young
No, it is since the argument hinged on rapid transition to adaptation and you cited a character that took decades. I don't even like the COO I think they're a black glove rip off, but you're full of shit if you think they haven't been by and large seen as interesting and compelling by DC/Batman fans. I'm not even the person who posted the COO thing btw.
Kevin Perez
>sons of famous super heroes >not being popular. Chris Kent, Helena Wayne, Lyta Trevor and many others say hi.
Lucas Hughes
I'm pretty sure 80% of Infinity Inc. is not popular whatsoever.
Easton Nguyen
>this board became heterosexual
Jayden White
>argument hinged on rapid transition to adaptation Then you don't read well. My argument hinged on "interesting" part, you retard. >haven't been by and large seen as interesting and compelling by DC/Batman fans. Argumentum ad populum, the favourite argument of a retard. They're objectively bad characters because they're not even characters, period. They're a generic ancient conspiracy that runs everything and have owls as a theme because Snyder likes sniffing his own farts and thinks he's so clever with sneaking a Bohemian Grove reference and referencing creatures that prey on bats at the same time. That's literally all there is to them and I don't care what a bunch of chucklefucks think when they call them "compelling" and "interesting".
Landon Collins
Then where the fuck are all the other failed versions of these characters? Damian and Jon are good because they're played fairly straight, they don't have the baggage a lot of those other characters have carried. Jon could become the next Chris Kent though depending on what happens with this version of Superman and his family.
Ryder Davis
We are literally discussing the popular success of characters, argumentum ad populum is not a fallacy it is what we are talking about. How can you possibly call others retarded here?
Jaxon Allen
user, meet Brainlet. One day he took a Philosophy course and now he's here to educate us poor fools.
Leo Brooks
Those boards became a lost cause years ago. They only look at $$$ numbers for victories, and ignore long term trends when it's convenient
Charles Evans
>Chris kent
One note kid. Appear few issues. And then, disappear.
>Helena Wayne
She got her own earth. And then for destroy.
>Lyta Trevor
Another one note character
Jackson Howard
He really got those shills angry.
Aiden Cooper
Fuck this cuck. Glad his shitty character bombed
Andrew James
>for destroy.
Got destroy.
Jack Ramirez
almost there
Brayden Allen
>c-comicbook roundup isn't a valid source because I say so
Nicholas Jenkins
>shitting on Saga now? >now I've been shitting on Saga since the beginning thank you
Anthony Thomas
>now Nah I think people were off the train when they went full Hillary Clinton "women are the worst effected by wars"
Brody Johnson
Blow up and smash to pieces?
Lincoln Sanders
You fucking retard. >If the characters are actually interesting and not shit then they have a good chance at getting a foothold. Is what started this particular discussion. Stop trying to move the goalposts you fucking moron. That's rich coming from a subhuman using a shit meme like "brainlet"
Caleb Bailey
>You fucking retard. >you fucking moron >a subhuman using a shit meme Yep, definitely it's him. Hi Brainlet!
Juan Ward
>it keeps going Glad to know you have no argument at all. Now go die.
Hunter Brooks
So why do you think the CoO is popular then? because everyone agrees with you and hates them? I mean someone of your intellect will probably be killed crossing the street, so I say to you, look both ways honey!
Adam Myers
>So why do you think the CoO is popular then? It's almost as if a good design (Talon in particular) can attract people to bad characters! The More You Know. But wait, maybe you're right. Maybe it's the totally original concept behind them. Wait, not that. Maybe it's unique and rich personalities? Definitely no. Interesting motivations? Nope again. It seems that CoO is a bunch of conspiratard cliches brought in a capeshit world. >because everyone agrees with you and hates them? This sentence doesn't make any sense, making your later comment all the more ironic. >someone of your intellect will probably be killed crossing the street I know you're an idiot so maybe I'm expecting too much from you, but you can stop talking to a reflection in the mirror.
Henry Thomas
>you can stop talking But Brainlet, our attention! You need it!
Camden Thompson
>that sentence doesn't even make sense That's the point. It's called sarcasm. I'm done arguing with a room temperature IQ tard such as yourself. And the fact that you haven't even referenced the Black Glove shows that you're just some angry casual fuck. I mean you wanted it to be Bohemian Grove when the Black Glove were in the previous fucking Batman run. Sad to have read Snyder but not Morrison.
Jackson Stewart
Now kiss.
Henry Parker
>sarcasm translates to text Keep proving that you're a total idiot! >room temperature IQ tard such as yourself You have no argument and are just lashing out like a retarded child you are. :) >if you didn't say anything muh Black Glove like means you didn't read Morrison What great logic. You must be a detective. >spic is still butthurt What's the matter Pedro? Ran out of cocaine?
Samuel Roberts
I never read past the first issue of Mosaic. Did his personality ever evolve past "dick who's full of himself"?
