God damn it, I was actually getting kind of attached to this character. How did they fuck up so badly?

God damn it, I was actually getting kind of attached to this character. How did they fuck up so badly?

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What do you mean? That stuff with the bell was really good

I was always sexually attached to Pacifica.

Because, along with alot of more pressing fuck ups the finally had, they treated pacifica poorly and made her suffer even though she was going through a redemption arc(which was never fully resolved because there never was a FUCKING SEASON 3)

She did get redeemed. She was on good terms with the Pines at the end and her losing the mansion just implied that the Northwest's will be adjusting to living a normal life now.

she didn't need to confess her love for your self-insert and become a main character. she was Robbie and Wendy levels of importance. her arc was handled

Pacifica was the llama for a reason- she really was supposed to be a more important character, but Gravity Falls was rushed, and season 3 never came to be.

I hope there is a season 3 taking place next summer. Pacifica is still very much still around Gravity Falls- just in a smaller house.

>I hope there is a season 3 taking place next summer. Pacifica is still very much still around Gravity Falls- just in a smaller house.

A season 3 would be pointless now, the big bad's already been defeated. Maybe she'll show up in the comics though.

Have him come back or a new big bad show up. There will be a gravity falls revival someday, its just a matter of wondering if it will be in 2 years or 10

His brother. Dying cry, remember?

>Wanting a season 3
>Wanting a revival in general
Please die.

Season 2B and weirdmageddon fucking sucked. It needed a proper last season and i was fucking fuming when i found out it wasnt getting one. Not only do i want a revival, i want cuck hirsch banned from participating in it. I dont care if its shit, but anything to spite him for making that fucking shit anticlimactic ending

Again, please die.

Well, I'll tell you how, it's very simple. The Golf War and NNM were written only because of a dare.

After season one the crew was interviewing people, asking them what they liked, what they didn't like and most of them said there was no way in hell the crew could make Pacifica likeable. So the writers took that as a challenge.

That's it.

They had to turn her parents into assholes to accomplish that. Let me remind you there was not a single hint of douchebag mommy & daddy in season 1. Not a single subtle hint. Because it wasn't planned.

In fact, the only thing that was trurly planned was the Authors identity. They weren't even entirely sure if they wanted to end the series with an apocalypse.

As least cite your ass as a source for that shit, anyone can write lies.

>Pacifica was the llama for a reason
The "wheel" was originally just a bunch of random symbols. Hirsch admitted that. Originally the symbols weren't even representing characters. Ford's glasses representing McGucket was total BS.

I'm not quite sure what you're saying but Bill was crying out to this thing, the Axolotl, which is basically God in the Gravity Falls universe and asking it to rez him. They might pick up on that in the comics if they ever get around to making them but I can't see why they would make a third season. Everyone involved with the show is scattered to the winds and from what I hear it was a stressful work environment so I don't see why they'd want to go back to that. I guess they might do a reboot some day if they think there might be money in it because people seem to reboot everything no matter how obscure these days, though. If anything it seems like you might just get the graphic novels, maybe even some more books.

Pacifica's popularity was entirely a fluke. Hirsch caught on too latte, and when he finally did notice, he simply didn't know what to do with her.

Northwest Mansion Mystery, for instance, wasn't even written by him; it was made as a one-time nod to the fans, and naturally it only made Pacifica's character even MORE popular, but by that time the series was already ending.

He did say she was intended as an irredeemable vile cunt and her fans were just projecting. But then he tossed them a bone. I'm glad he did because NMM was one of the very best episodes and Golf War was good too, though. And I think it's okay if fans project onto characters, it means they resonate for some reason.

Jackie Chan Adventutes had the Big Bad, Shen Long be defeated and the Talisman story arc being used up. But they did manage to make a new villain and a new story arc.

I think its even easier to fit a new villain and story arc into Gravity Falls. Maybe something to do with the aliens, because that really was interesting. Or maybe a storyline about some Native American legend.

I imagine he resented to some level that Paz kept outshining Mabel.

He said that back before season 2 started though, when Pacifica was much less popular and Mabel was still the top waifu of /gfg/.

Of course he did, he wanted to fuck his sister so he made Mabel 'Best Girl' and based her off his sister.

The Northwests were written to be a Trump family parody, and the gradual change to the way they were portrayed on the show reflects upon Alex Hirsch's twisted and fickle political views. They started out as cartoony and buffoonish rich people who plastered their name on everything and owned real estate, like how liberals viewed Trump during the whole birther thing. By the time the series was ending however, Trump was rising in the polls and was already trolling the shit out of the libs, so naturally Hirsch turned them into villains and reneged on the fan-influenced redemption he was giving Pacifica just to shit on her family as a whole. It's not much different than that one retarded liberal screaming and attacking Ivanka on an airplane, death by association. It really makes no sense that the Northwumpfs were punished so severely for not really committing any misdeeds while Gideon was given a free pass despite fighting on Bill's side.

Alex said Mabel was him. He was the wacky social twin.

Funny how in the end, Pacifica was more likable than Mabel.

Hell, fucking Gideon was more likable than Mabel in the end

Very well, doubtful Thomas.

tvinsider.com/45998/gravity-falls-new-york-comic-con-video/
> The writers challenged themselves to make Pacifica likeable. Hirsch said he and the writers were surprised by the response to her character. "Pacifica was the worst in Season 1," said Hirsch. One of the writers came up with the idea to to make her a character the audience would care about. "We go to her house and learn about her. We didn't know if people would respond or not." Hirsch says that after the episode "Northwest Mansion Mystery," the Pine twins and Pacifica are confused to be feeling an emotion other than hate for each other. "In the aftermath of the episode, where there was pure hate, there is a tiny crack in the door of friendship between Pacifica and the Pines twins."

themarysue.com/alex-hirsch-interview/
>In your question, you say season 2 had to be “rethought” but that implies that there was this already finished season 2 totally written out in our minds. But that’s not the case. All we knew after Season 1 was over was “Ford comes out of the portal. Bill probably creates the apocalypse. Dipper & Mabel complete their arcs. Fun stuff happens in the meantime.”

>Shen Long
It's Shendu you fucking heathen.

>Pacifica vanished from the plot just as she started developing into something interesting
>Mabel's character development is deliberately halted if not outright backwards (Like in Weirdmageddon)
>Bill picked as a main villain despite gross mismatch in ability resulting in a messy finale where he had to be deliberately dumb

I hate season 2B.

That's a bit harsh. D, D & More D was pretty good. I really liked the alien spaceship stuff as well.

>Bill picked as a main villain despite gross mismatch in ability resulting in a messy finale where he had to be deliberately dumb
Essentially the biggest problem with the finale (besides the worthless sacrifice at the end). They turned that idiotic nacho into an Infinity Gauntlet-wielding Thanos and then make him act like a goddamn Mario villain.

Not to mention they had to add a weakness he didn't have in Dreamscaperers - that he needed a person's permission to access their memories. He sure as hell didn't need Stanley's permission back then!

Alexander was a hack. A hack he be, a hack he dies!

I'm still mad they dropped her after NMM and just gave her a minor role in the finale just to have her there.

Are you okay

>That's a bit harsh. D, D & More D was pretty good.
It was garbage.

The one good was Stanchurian Candidate, but it was to divorced from GF appeal.

who cares? just like Wendy she contributed nothing to the plot.

>Stanchurian Candidate
I didn't like that one too much.

About that pic, everyone was wearing sweaters except Dipper. Why?

This is the true mystery of Gravity Falls to me is how after "1" episode, people love this borderline side character and whine about it to this day.

She's borderline Wendy. Has one moment that makes her stand out and nothing. Who cares.

You do if you posted on this thread to tell us how much you don't care about a character we like.

Dude, you are crazy. Trump wasn't anywhere NEAR the public view at the time they were writing and producing the Northwest Mansion episode, or even airing it for the first time. Don't forget also that there were 10+ other party candidates at the time, and no one in the mainstream gave Trump a chance of winning. He wasn't on the radar at all.

Stop being so dishonest with yourself and imagining the boogieman everywhere there's a shadow of something you don't like (or you are not supposed to like).

Doin a draw of Pacifica, what'll it be?

Literal puppies in her sweater and disappointed Dipper

Her trying to convince Dipper to have sex in exchange for money
And Stanley in the background yelling MONEY!!

Pacifica Ordering Dipper to take responsibility for not wearing protection when he fucked her.

Pacifica sexually harassing Dipper in a workplace setting.

Begging on the streets for money, holding a bottle of whiskey after her family got fucked over.

Who are you trying to impress with this?

Then he has some serious challenges.

Pacifica in a cute summerdress and sandals.

Anyone got that sttip of pacifica sneaking out of her birthday party to hang out with dipper and mabel?

Found it.
Aren't you awesomed by my Google Fu?

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Cute

Daily reminder that Preston did nothing wrong and in fact encouraged his daughter to help save the world, and was still punished in the epilogue.

They may not have targeted Trump the presidential candidate, but the Northwests really take after Trump the rich buffoon. People have been making fun of him since at least the 80s, it's only now that they actually despise and fear him.

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"I'l teach them to make fun of me!"

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Wasn't she based on a Girlfriend Alex had during the first season that he was leading to an eventual love interest for Dipper (himself) so by the second season he had most of the episodes already animated along with the Northwest mansion episode, but he gets dumped by real life Pacifica, get wasted in the award ceremony and the next few episode there is no mention of the relationship ever again.

Or so I heard, take it as a grain of salt.

??? No, Pacifica was mostly just a generic "rich mean rival bully" character like Draco Malfoy. Her popularity made them give her a sliver of depth in two eps. She was never supposed to be a love interest for Dipper, his only love interest was Wendy, and the Dipper/Wendy stuff apparently got cut short because the fans didn't like it. I like Pacifica, but she was just a cliche side character mostly so people who are seriously still angry about this need to let go. As for Alex has was dating some cosplayer and I I only know that because /gfg/ was pissed at him about it because she was a Sup Forums user and he supposedly broke up with her in a douchey way, all the hostility towards him on Sup Forums started because of that supposedly.

>As for Alex has was dating some cosplayer and I I only know that because /gfg/ was pissed at him about it because she was a Sup Forums user and he supposedly broke up with her in a douchey way, all the hostility towards him on Sup Forums started because of that supposedly.

It was even before that, but back then it just seemed like some shitposters. I remember because people would make manlet jokes based on pictures of him looking shorter when he stood next to her, and her explaining she was wearing high healed shoes in those shots. I think that kind of attitude just snowballed over the course of season 2 and reached it's max size at the finale.

>Wasn't she based on a Girlfriend Alex had during the first season that he was leading to an eventual love interest for Dipper (himself) so by the second season he had most of the episodes already animated along with the Northwest mansion episode

You got it mixed up. Alex had a girlfriend in the first season, but he didn't base Pacifica off her, it was this chick.

She was cute until I found that out.

Oppaifica

wendy/dipper was not cut short because "fans didn't like it." It was clear from the first episode that it would be a lesson in not having everything you want - especially when you're a little kid compared to your crush. It's a classic "growing up" story point and what the show was all about.

She would never fill that shirt out.

Press F to Pay Respects to Manzi

Actually, last I saw on Twitter, she's doing well as a costumer for Disney I think.

F

This is now a Pacifica thread.

Alex did say in an interview fans seemed sick of the Dipper spills spaghetti over Wendy plots. Not that they'd get together just they wanted to stop doing those eps so much.

Yes

yeah, but that was after he tried to side with bill to profit with the apocalipse

Anything special?

Alex is a faggot communist so he could never want pacificia to be a regular character that has likable traits

oh FUCK these guys. fucking nightmare fuel when I was a kid. I didn't need this

>>How did I fuck up so badly

Thats the question you need to reach to begin your long journey of recovery

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If I had the money, I would demand a version of Gravity Falls with Oppaicifica.

Dipper eventually helped Pacifica break her bell conditioning, right?

>no episode of dipper getting a hold of the bell

If he did, of course he would destroy it. He would never think of keeping it around after finding out what it does to Pacifica.

Oppaicifica shopping for underwear with Mabel.

>That's a bit harsh. D, D & More D was pretty good
It was okay at best. Just typical "lol so nerdy" bullshit with a sappy moral at the end.

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It's just like 2014!

I wish Alex didn't have such a hateboner for rich people, Pacifica was great by the end, way more likeable than Mabel.

Pacifica is high as fuck

She has a good character design and is fun to draw. Also, her visceral popular bitchy tude makes it fun to draw.

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Bump

I like her face in this pic

I just want shameless porn of Pacificia giving Dipper the bell so he can control her completely.

Do you think is just paranoid bullshit or Roiland really was fucking around with pinecest?

Soft request: Dipper using them as pillows

Hard: Oppaificia giving a predatory look at shota Dipper

Why is she ?

Upset*

Amazing how you get a better character if you combine them with Pacifica's traits.

>Hirsch said he and the writers were surprised by the response to her character.

"HEY, why don't people hate this character we basically made to be a punching bag for our rich hate boner and any meaningful win against the protagonist"

>Mabel
>Protagonist
She's a semi-important side character at best. Soos is more important and more of a character than her.

Post that fusion with Lori Loud and Teodora

No but if you look in that thread you can read Roiland fighting with the same group that was attacking the pinecest, billdip, stancest, wendip, dipcifica, mabill, etc. etc. shippers and artists while Gravity Falls was running.

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