Why didn't the allies declare war on the Soviet Union? Why?

Why didn't the allies declare war on the Soviet Union? Why?
There is literally no logical reason. They didn't even have nukes. Their only access to the seas and thus to the world was via the pacific and Mediterranean. The US controlled the pacific and Europeans controlled the Mediterranean.

You could have isolated the fuck out them, but you didn't. Why? Were you really so scared of us? Why didn't the idiotic West understand that Russia was far more dangerous than we? We needed an edgy ideology and a lot of brainwashing to get on the same level. They did it fucking effortlessly. And you let this demon live while slaughtering us? Seriously? Do you think we could have even conceived of doing the same spying and infiltration stuff they did? They literally infiltrated the highest echolon of the US in the 50s and got the bomb for fucks sake.

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war exhaustion

couldn't motivate the people to keep fighting after the enemy was killed, especially when it included turning on an ally that was integral to victory

>Why didn't the allies declare war on the Soviet Union? Why?
Why would the US and Britain go to war with the communist nation they spent billions trying to set up and keep alive?

> leading a war is fun and costs nothing
> sending the rest of your youth to hell sure is a great idea
> tell the european to bring peace and right away bomb the shit of the rest of europe
sounds like a good idea, doesn't it

Hindsight, the post.
This.
>Hey american people, let's attack our ally that we have spent 4 years supplying and fighting a common enemy with for no obvious reason other than they're gommies.

pretty sure patton wanted to invade the soviets directly after the war ended, but i'm sure you remember what happened to him

After the US got to Berlin, General Patton realized that commies were the real problem. He wanted to keep pushing to Moscow but Eisenhower felt that the world needed to war to be over. In hindsight its the biggest mistake of his career but was probably rational at the time

Because the Soviet Union was a good battleground against the Germans and everybody wants to quit the war asap

Because their only real goal was to destroy the growing German economic power and influence in the world. The war had nothing to do with Nazism and "evil things".

Oh look its kraut the cuck episode.

Manpower and land disadvantage. Would have been 1812 all over again, you faggots have no idea what the weather is like in Russia. Also lack of morale would have probably soon kicked in.

Usa should have nuked moscow.

>the growing German economic power
You mean deficit-driven Hitler's budget policy? You realize Germany would go bankrupt sooner or later and they just had to start a war?

Because the Nazis were systematically massacring Russians, so the allies feared they would be next.

>Auschwitz existed in 1939

Juden pls

What would have been the timing of this?
Would it have had to be done before or after the war of the pacific, and the surrender of Japan?
Maybe the US wouldn't have been able to take control of Europe the way it did if it had been busy with the USSR.

You can't call WWII a war for freedom when you let Russians, East Germans, Poles, Czechs, Slovaks and Hungarians to rot under the Soviet rule.

>Why would the US and Britain go to war with the communist nation they spent billions trying to set up and keep alive?
Soviet Union was created thanks to German gold sent to Sankt Petersburg together with Lenin due to executive order of Kaiser Wilhelm II.


Eternal teuton strikes again.

A bit more jewry pls its still too bland add systimatic socialeconomical discrimination white privilige and a side of supremacy

US had the bomb, but the war production in the Soviet Union was fucking massive at the time, much superior to the american and allies combined.
It would've been a disaster.

... You mean Harry S. Truman? You are mixing WW2 and the Korean War.
FDR and Truman were WW2, Truman in office until 1952.
Eisenhower was 1952-58.

Keep your shit together.

...

because they're jewish.

Also German race is responsible for systimatic (((genocide))) of thw jewish race but the German race doesnt exist.

Patton was a WWII general and Eisenhower was the Supreme Allied Commander. Patton wanted to invade the commies but Eisenhower said no

It's hard to fight a war with armies if you can't convince the people that there's a good reason to fight said war. Look at Vietnam and Korea, they were disasters.

Short answer? Because some Germanic tribes on the loose needed to be brought to heel.

And now the Jew is caught in his webs of lies, he will pretend we never spome of this.

>Wroclaw
Is there a more worthless city on the globe?

A sovereign nation cannot "go bankrupt" in the usual sense. It controls its currency. It can reengineer its financial system as needed if the state is powerful enough (but it's a huge internal issue that effects the elite, it causes them problems and it disrupts social order).

As long as it has valuable resources (possibly acquired by conquest) and industries, it can still trade. Currencies often become unreliable during wars. That's why they end up using gold a lot. But they can also just have bartering agreements and credit systems, etc.

well, there's Szczecin.

>Why
Why the fuck would they? USSR did nothing wrong faggot.

Because the nazis were literally Hitler and the soviets dindu nuffin

Because the jews were in charge of the USSR just like they were in charge of England and the USA.
You all fags aren't redpilled enough.
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Shame they didn't go after the turks, Zeljko Jurinovic

You are incorrect and have no reason to be condescending

People were tired of fighting war.

>Why didn't the allies declare war on the Soviet Union?
The Soviet Union WAS our ally.

*They are in charge of England and the USA.

>no logical reason
Stop the killing, fuck the Eastern Europe, have a period of growth and peace sounds pretty logical reason not to invade.

Also USSR was necessary to balance AMerican imperialism, just like Russia is necessary today

Bolsheviks and Zionists.

Lel no, usa joined war in 1944

We didn't go to war with USSR for the same reason we entered the ww1 on behalf of Britain/France interest. They owed our bankster/industrialist money.

We sent hundreds of thousands of boys to doy on the Somme to make sure USofA would get repaid. We sure as fuck weren't gonna whack the USSR when they owed us money.

No such thing.

Because the Brits were smart and didn't want a war with the Soviet Union

>Got some sweet poland lands and pu$$y
>Rekt Frenchman cocks in matter of weeks
>Bombed Londonistan to dust
>Japs are invading China
>Schiese, i guess i'm just gonna suicide my ass in bunker after commies take Berlin
It's sooo Hitler s fault the world is not authoritarian.

Bankers and elitists literally the reason why.

>Why didn't the allies declare war on the Soviet Union? Why?
Yeah, worked out well for Napoleon and Hitler!
Moron

Lel more loke the Jews didnt want their slaves or slave state bothered by.

Soviets outnumbered allies in Europe by 10 to 1 in 1945. The real question is why the Soviets didn't just push onward and conquer the whole of Europe, as they very easily could have.

>no obvious reason
>highly aggressive nation occupying half of Europe
>went to war over a nation occupying Europe

>ameridiot education

You joined in 1942 you fucking retard. I am deeply, deeply concerned about the state of your education system.

Dude are you actually mentally retarded or just joking?

>Szczecin
As a stained glass art historian I'm offended

Oh I dunno.

Maybe because Soviets outnumbered allies in Europe 3:1 in tanks and 5:1 in manpower? Maybe because the only method of delivering atomic bombs in 1940s was B-29 Superfortress and it didn't have the range to reach Moscow or any industrial facilities behind Urals?
Maybe because by the end of the war Soviets had LA-7, Yak-9 and Mig-3 whose max ceiling surpassed B-29?
Maybe because by the end of the war Soviets had robust anti-air defenses and 52-k 85mm which could fire a fused shell beyond B-29 max ceiling?
Maybe because neither back then or now the collective US/NATO possessed the capacity to "blockade" country the size of Pluto?
Maybe because Soviet Union anno 1945 was the most capable fighting force on the planet?

No one slaughtered you, you pathetic cuckold, you gave up. One million soldiers over the course of two days, the largest mass surrender in military history. 70 years later, and you're still the same crying little bitch like your grandmother who spread her legs to mongol conscript for canned food.

Because the allues were supplied and would fire bomb russia to dust.

Because despite being Russians the soldiers didn't want to die for nothing, at least until Berlin there was a motive.

Canadian researcher Dr. Henry Makow (who is Jewish himself) says the main reason why the bankers arranged for a world war against Germany was that Hitler sidestepped the bankers by creating his own money, thereby freeing the German people. Worse, this freedom and prosperity threatened to spread to other nations. Hitler had to be stopped!

This economic freedom made Hitler extremely popular with the German people. Germany was rescued from English economic theory, which says that all currency must be borrowed against the gold owned by a private and secretive banking cartel -- such as the Federal Reserve, or the Central Bank of Europe -- rather than issued by the government for the benefit of the people.

Germany even managed to restore foreign trade, despite the international bankers’ denial of foreign credit to Germany, and despite the global boycott by Jewish-owned industries. Germany succeeded in this by exchanging equipment and commodities directly with other countries, using a barter system that cut the bankers out of the picture. Germany flourished, since barter eliminates national debt and trade deficits.

Germany's economic freedom was short-lived; but it left several monuments, including the famous Autobahn, the world's first extensive superhighway

Hard to firebomb Russia if the Soviets overrun your airbases and you don't have the range to reach Russian soil anymore.

Concerned about the indocrination or lack of partisanship?
Filthy kike.

Because FDR's cabinet were crypto-Communists and socialists.

I'm concerned about whatever educational forces produce an American that believes his country entered WWII in 1944.

>There is literally no logical reason.
Fkn lmao. Gotta keep it short:

>be Germany invading Poland. Military not as great as post war propaganda wants you to believe.
>Run out of artillary ammo after 10-11 days, short on aviation fuel after 14 days
>would have struggled to crush everything in Poland if the Soviets didn't invade from the east
>France and Britain declare war, ignore every peace offer, not matter how generous. Ok gotta keep fighting and force surrender
>Military only becomes great due to conquered resources and labor in Poland in addition to getting most relevant resources from the US (henry ford and others hint hint) AND the USSR (without these resources, Germany couldn't have continued for long).
>Crush France, more labor and resources (he should have gone total war full retard at that point)

>Be USSR
>have the biggest and strongest fucking military on the planet by 1941 (900k soldiers up to 5.5 million from 1939 till 1941)
>supply nazis to fight the capitalists
>idea is to move in the moment they are down, i.e. German troops in the british island
>can stop resources to Germany with a single order, bleeding them dry, last thing they get from "my" area is oil from Rumania
>Invade Rumania but stop 180km short of oil fields in 1940 just right in bomber range (fucking retard stalin, should have taken it and would have won)
>This tips of Hitler, seeing that within a single day, Stalin can stop all resources necessary for war which would have meant the end for Germany
>Nazi attention switches to the east, plan invasion (it was do or die at that point for Germany) and underestimate Soviet forces 10:1
>Attack IN SUMMER 1941 and meet the strongest fighting force on the planet build but only partly prepared for offense, crush 80% of it with the element of surprise.
>Barbarossa was "do or die" and it actually saved Europe from becoming completely communist.

cont:

Because you guys allied with japan and attacked us. If you hadent we might have been able to help you kill communisim, its a tragedy but it was the result of bad alliances and strategy, not ideal longterm goals.
Plus (((you know who)))

Allies would completely erradicate soviets, USA would completely destroy russia today, I want to see it happen now.

This.

Your joking, right? That is a half truth. Lenin was used to destabilize the Russian empire and end the war in the east, but that's as far as the extent of German meddling goes. In fact, it was Wall Street that funded the Soviet union in the 1930's and helped it grow into the military and industrial monster it mutated to.

*and the japs attacked us.

Why, for the millionth times why? Because they want to control all lands so they can distribute their products all over the world. There's literally no other reason even in history of USA's wars.

Because japs bombed our harbor and the Germans were their friends; America wanted nothing to do with the war until someone started fucking with us

This, barbarossa was a gamble the stomp out a snake waiting to strike when Europe was weak. Sadly it didn't work out. Later plans in the war were shit, West supplying massive amounts of raw materials and equipment which helped jump start Soviet manufacturing to zero rush the axis with tanks, planes, and infantry.

>Were you really so scared of us? Why didn't the idiotic West understand that Russia was far more dangerous than we? We needed an edgy ideology and a lot of brainwashing to get on the same level. They did it fucking effortlessly.

Soviets build the strongest industrial complex in the world geared for war, paid for mostly with food, starving millions and got all this stuff from Germany, France, Britain or US. They were not seen as a threat because the commies were put into power with Wallstreet money/backing. They were partly "in on it" from the beginning. Stalin did his own thing after cleansing some people, but after the war he went in with the globalist agenda through the United Nations and the US was full of high ranking commie spies anyway.

>And you let this demon live while slaughtering us?
Everything is done by the globalists to demonize nationalism and they don't stop at millions of dead people.

>Do you think we could have even conceived of doing the same spying and infiltration stuff they did?
The Nazis didn't really try that stuff because they wanted to be left the fuck alone and gain autarky.

Yeah, today sure. Russia wouldn't last 6 months against NATO. But in 1945, with the Soviet armies poised to march into Western Europe?

Even Churchill was sufficiently afraid of this scenario.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Unthinkable

American airforce bombs all industry to dust, american army crushes russian army, all russia becones occupied by usa.

kys

Right...(((crypto communist))) and (((socialist)))

This lie will never die thanks to conspiracy theorists and the Eternal Pole.

And yet another lie. Why am I not surprised?

There is a logical reason.
It's called we had jews in our government that lobbied us heavily to be anti-german because they were scared as fuck.
Wish those kikes were dealt with properly. Nothing worse than a kike in this existence. Nothing.

Correct. What I meant was that this deficit-driven budget policy was unsustainable in the long run, so Germany was forced to start a war because of its war economy

This.

CTR Serb proxy is an anti-German, why am I not surprised?

The soviets were hardly allies in WWII. Stalin was an opportunist. He realized that Germany couldnt sustain a war on two fronts so all of eastern Europe was up for grabs. He didn't give a shit about the rest of the allies reasons for entering the war. Thats why as soon as WWII ended, tensions between the US and Russia immediately escalated massively. There was no common ground to work with. Stalin literally just used the war to seize territory.

Nato?
Usa alone would crush russia to the stoneage.

Dumb fat fuck helped build them up and a tally Houghton he could go to war with them afterwards. Fucking idiots missed their chance.

USA economy is 8timea bigger than russian, miliyary is much larger.

It's not really a lie though, more like 10% of the truth. They supplied Lenin with Gold money but it was not relevant compared to Wall street backing.

In addition, the Kaiser did barely know anything about Lenin and his ambitions. The actual "mastermind" behind sending Lenin was the Chief of German Army Intelligence, Max (((Warburg))). Every half informed person will see red light now. Rich Jewish Banker, brother was the mastermind of the Federal Reserve, both brothers "boss" of the I.G. Farben later on (American and German branch) etc...

It was all a plot by the rich to crush the monarchies and the monarchies were played out against each other not knowing what happening. Even the retard Princip who murdered the arch-duke met with Trotsky in Lausanne/Switzerland (of course always fucking switzerland) which creates a possible direct connection to wall street.

(((They))) basically orchastrated WW1 and most of the information regarding the conspiracy will probably never be known.

>Why didn't the allies declare war on the Soviet Union?
Because the USSR didn't invade Poland. Germany did.

>b-b-b-but the USSR occupied Poland afterwards
Yes, but that was well after the intial round of declarations of war. The Allies didn't declare then because they wanted to isolate Germany, who they were actually at war with, rather than try and fight the entire world.

Considering that the USSR stuck mainly to itself and didn't try and take over the world through a bloody and bitter war of conquest I think they made the right choice of ally.

>inb4 Nazi apologists come crawling out of the woodwork trying to claim that Germany had a right to invade Poland because "muh ethnic cleansing" while simultaneously denying the rights of the rest of the world to invade Germany for literally the same reason

Oh, also because the USSR could have outfought the allies all the way back to Normandy.

Obviously, but any war involving the USA and Russia is going to involve the other NATO states as well.

There is not a single way the allies could have beaten Russia in 1945.

Ussr did invade poland.

The Russians had only people there, they needed lend lease to survive the overstretched front line and pushing further was not possible. In addition, the US had nukes. It was actually the US which could have pushed back the Soviets with ease. The Soviets were in this war for way longer and were exhausted... continue the fight against the combined forces of France, Britain and the US and then the USSR was the one getting a two front war (US coming from Alaska).

>didn't invade Poland
Holy fuck, Aussies are going full shit post today.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Poland
KYS.

I know I said that, however I wouldn't say no way. Very unlikely though.

>16 days after Nazi Germany invaded Poland
Which was my entire point you stupid fucks. You don't start a third war against someone you are trying to convince to join your war two weeks after declaring war on the foremost European power.

What would have had to be done to prevent WW1 and in turn the rise of communism, Versailles and WW2?

Ussr invaded finland and poland, so poland was not the noble bankers cause to fuel hatred against germany.

The question is... Why didn't the soviets attack the allies?

>Usa alone would crush russia to the stoneage
You think your silly aircraft would get through that immense anti-air russian weaponry? You couldn't even conquer the Middle East