Climate change

How can you deny climate change? Future generations are going to shame this generation for history just because you couldn't accept that climate change is real and happening.

>pic related: Florida flooding due to rising sea temperatures

Instead of listening to scientists, you fall for the Exxon and Shell disinformation just to secure them some more shekels at the cost of our only home.
There is so much proof that climate change is happening, but instead you just keep posting shitty debunked infographics made by (((oil companies))) with horrible sources, as if it somehow proves your argument that climate change is a hoax.
youtube.com/watch?v=90CkXVF-Q8M

Over the past few decades, multiple meters of ice layers have melted, many islands have started to flood more and more, air is becoming more toxic to humans, nearly 50% of the worlds species have gone extinct, massive forests have been cut down and global CO2 and CH4 levels have been increasing, natural disasters have become more and more common, and soon the entire world will go through even worse

How can you just sit back and shill for oil companies while Earth is drastically changing due to our widespread fossil fuel use and consumption?

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grist.org/climate-energy/surprise-a-third-of-congress-members-are-climate-change-deniers/
rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_Gallop
cleantechnica.com/2016/09/29/china-cities-overwhelmingly-want-renewable-energy/
marketwatch.com/story/chinas-growth-in-renewable-energy-raises-overcapacity-concerns-iea-2016-10-25
skepticalscience.com/china-leading-role-solutions.html
eesi.org/briefings/view/071415china
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There won't be a future without the White Race doomsday jargon isn't working. Jews will be gassed for their lies.

Jesus...
For the last fucking time
>the axis our planet turns around is not stable
>the planet it self has seasons
>"climatchange" is nothing humatiy has any significant controle over
>there are several accounts of an suden drop of temperature around the world, the most detailed discription came from a diary from France written about 1460 including a decription of dark sky and raining ash, belived to be the reason of an vulcanic outburst that could be traced to northern canada/greenland

Just kill your self you inbreed nigger

>How can you deny the ice age? Future generations are going to shame this generation for history just because you couldn't accept that Earth is cooling and didn't buy enough blankets
>How can you deny that we will run out of oil by 2010? Future generations are going to shame this generation wasting too much oil before investing in alternative energy sources
>How can you deny the growing holes in the ozone layer? Future generations are going to shame this generation for history just because you couldn't accept that the ozone layer will be gone by 2015

Climate change is a conspiracy for you to spend your money on other things and to make a new boogeyman because the terrorist one wasn't as bad as they thought

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Its not relevant whether it is legitimate or not. Lets talk plans, as all potential solutions are absolutely not able to be implemented on a reasonable time frame that would alter the potential course of climate change. At this point we might as well just hope for the best.

Climate change is real, climates have been changing since the beginning. However, "global warming" and its effects are extremely exaggerated.

It's a conspiracy to move factories from the west to Africa, Asia and the Middle East.

You know this shit is not genuine because these people do not have a single solution to this imagined problem.
Moving factories from America to China does nothing good for the environment. All it does is line some pockets while making the West considerably poorer.

It's basically a globalist ploy to redistribute wealth globally. It's global socialism.

You are retarded
xkcd.com/1732/

Yeah, that's why the global average temperature stayed about the same within the past millions of years, but suddenly it just spiked

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What a coincidence that this sudden spike happened after the industrial revolution

>P U R E C O I N C I D E N C E

What the fuck are you going to do about it? Shitposting here isn't going to change my lifestyle, or millions of others.

Wrong
It's spreading awareness

"global warming" is liberal

The globalists use people like these to shame people into believing in global warming so no one would question what shipping jobs overseas has to do with global warming.

What they're doing is essentially ''combating overpopulation'' by putting restrictions on white countries telling us that we can only have 1 kid per 10 people, all while promoting non-white countries to breed more.
It doesn't make any sense whatsoever. It's not supposed. It's a play on emotions.

>How can you deny climate change?
Because I understand physics.

>truth is liberal
wow, good job shutting your ears and saying "la la la la la liburalz i cant hear you durr"
that sure proved me and every scientist in the world wrong

People who've studied science their entire lives disagree with you
climate.nasa.gov/

How do they break the laws of physics by studying something a lot?

To deny climate change does not mean that we deny it occurring. We deny the idea that we should be limiting our technological expansion and our business models due to it. The world is constantly changing, and the key to living in it is adapting, not trying to keep the environmental status quo.

Rel or not I do believe that white society should posses the means to change global climate on a whim.

Also we definitely need to be able to fire nukes at Mars/Venus/Pandora/Whatever, treaty be damned.

>raise valid points
>hue hue you shtupied
Yeah figured that a cuck like you can't have a casual talk but hey keep on going my ""redpilled"" fellow your enlightenment shines real bright under that fedora

What laws of physics are they breaking?

>adapting
good luck adapting when Earth becomes Venus

I'm just gonna post once and then I'm out

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I'm an environmental science major at an Ivy League school. I don't give a fuck about climate change. It literally only effects liberals on the coasts, poor people, and indigenous people. We lose more by restricting our economic growth with emission regulations than we gain. China, India, SK they don't give a fuck about emissions. It's all for show.

You're a special kind of stupid, aren't you? Rhetorical question, liberlul.

What future generations? We aren't going to be around for much longer, friend.

Oh, there's no arguing climate change. It's happening. Laying the blame solely on humans is another story altogether.

>""redpilled""
I guess you are really "redpilled" by buying into Exxon and other global oil company lies

>raise valid points
you raised no valid points

>the axis our planet turns around is not stable
You are clearly an example of Dunning Kruger effect. This sentence is so unbelievably retarded. Earth suddenly starts spinning in a different way? That violates all laws of physics

>the planet it self has seasons
Of course, yet every season for the past decade has been the hottest winter/spring/summer/fall ever recorded

>"climatchange" is nothing humatiy has any significant controle over
but somehow the biggest change in temperature ever in the history of Earth just coincides with the massive human expansion and industrialization

>there are several accounts of an suden drop of temperature around the world, the most detailed discription came from a diary from France written about 1460 including a decription of dark sky and raining ash, belived to be the reason of an vulcanic outburst that could be traced to northern canada/greenland
So what? We're talking about long term changes in temperature that is harming the planet

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>correlation = causation
Nice meme
>xkcd
Oh I am laffin

Of course change in climate is not all our fault but no one else can do anything about it.

That's why technological progress should not be stunted by lame doomsday theories. Especially not in countries like the US that have achieved so many things with space travel.

The end goal of all Earth civs should be to get off Earth. Its resources are limited and we were never meant to survive on it forever. It WILL go to shit one way or another. Mankind cannot cut corners on this endeavour. People won't need to adapt to a Venus-like Earth because they will be living off Earth.

I think we're all pretty fucking aware by now. These changes happen at a government level, and in case you've been living under a rock lately, our governments don't give a shit

I agree with you but the Ozone layer has been FIXED..its one fo the few environmental crisis we overcqme thanks to international agreements...

>What laws of physics are they breaking?
Conservation of energy.
Electromagnetism.
Density/bouncy.

In short they think that adding more CO2 will cause more warming. However CO2 can only absorb energy on set wavelengths. After those wavelengths are totally absorbed you that gas can't absorb any more energy. We had about 1.1C of extra energy that causes heating to absorb. We absorbed that and have now been sitting in a 19 year static temperature even while CO2 keeps going up faster than ever. (They think that you can absorb more energy than is in the system this violates the conservation of energy)

They claim that the atmosphere will absorb at one wavelength the emit at the same wavelength. (conservation of energy and electromagnetism) Sure we could heat gasses to emit at the right wavelengths but that's higher than any temperature that will ever happen in the atmosphere.

They claim that CO2 which is heavier than air will rise up into the upper atmosphere and absorb extra energy (that was emitted at the wavelengths CO2 absorbs on), in defiance of everything we know about density and bouncy.

So how does studying something really hard overturn those laws? Unless they are just making shit up to support their narrative.

>t. climate science denier
You're probably a flat-Earther too

see xkcd.com/1732/

Because oil is technological progress, right?
Having to spend a lot of money to extract resources that will run out soon is progress?

>our governments don't give a shit
your fault grist.org/climate-energy/surprise-a-third-of-congress-members-are-climate-change-deniers/

I do enjoy a new snake oil scam to make me panic enough to give you money for no good reasons other to make my fear go away.

Say, OP, how much does your job paid and can I join in as well?

Check out this goyim.
Big gov saved us from ozone layer boogeyman.

>The end goal of all Earth civs should be to get off Earth.
We should at least fix society before we attempt to leave.

Why would it stunt progress we would if anything be puting more effort into tech progress just in a diffrent field.

>That violates all laws of physics
If the earth was a solid object that would be true. But it's mostly liquid (magma), subject to heating and cooling, gravitational pulls from not only the moon, planets and sun.

So who is on top of mount stupid now?

>climate change is real and happening.
and there's nothing we can do about it because it's a natural phenomenon

Yeah, trust the big oil companies instead
Keep giving them money

Fuck off with that liberal bullshit. Society is just fine the way it is. The more commie bullshit you spew about "fixing the world" and "fighting injustices" and the more problems you create.

"Fixing society" literally means "giving handouts to shitskins". Fuck off. Space is for whites. Shitskins can rot on Earth.

Because its your understanding of these laws and their application to reality that is flawed

Look up environmental regulations.

>climate change
Implying the earth's climate has ever been stable

Holy fuck you are nigger tier retarded

>what is inertia
Sun/Earth/Moon is a very stable system

to actually move the axis on which Earth rotates would require a massive planet to crash into Earth

>nearly every planet in the solar system has a similar axis of rotation
wow that must be a huge coincidence if planets change their rotation axis randomely

>Look up environmental regulations.
There are alot of those pick one

So if as a gas you absorb on the wavelength of 5nm with a range of 1+/- if you absorb all of that exiting energy how does adding more gas absorb more energy?

Hate you ruin your day but all climate models depend and demand that other gasses besides CO2 cause the "dangerous" warming. The most popular is methane because it has the highest potential. But it's flawed due to a 9.8 year atmospheric half life, and due to the world having billions of fewer grazing animals (herds in Africa and North America are gone).

It actually has
This sudden rise in temperature is unprecedented, and it will wipe out many species and cause so many problems
and most scientists agree that it is caused by humans

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the climate is always changing

Hey many international companies and manufacturers are on the anthropogenic GW train as well because now they have excuse to make cheap profuct in China.

Do you really want to live on Earth millions of years ago, when toxic gases filled the atmosphere and the climate was completely inhospitable to humans?

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>now they have excuse to make cheap profuct in China
China is working to solve climate change too

China is now only building renewable power plants and making better regulations for their factories

>"Fuck off with that liberal bullshit."
>first colony on Mars a grand success
>WW3 breaks out
>nukes everywhere
>the rich elite is safe on Mars while we're left on this irradiated hellhole with no chance of payback for the damage they caused
Unless you want to ready some space rockets with severe nuclear cluster warheads just so Soros&Co aren't safe on their offplanet paradise, we're gonna clean up this disgusting mudpool first whether you like it or not.

Don't think it'll be cannon fodder like you and me who will be going into space.

are you saying the world will end because we put too much carbon in the air?

Lol we're not talking about a primordial soup.

Shouldn't we all be underwater by now if Gore was right?

>I post a bunch of bullshit, therefore my argument is correct
rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_Gallop

Do you believe the Earth's liquid core spins at the same rate as the surface?

>to actually move the axis on which Earth rotates would require a massive planet to crash into Earth

I assume you mean the inclination of the planet? How the Earth is 23.4 degrees off center and oscillates around that rotational axis?

The Earth wobbles. It wobbles due to the moon and the sun as well as the mass distribution of the earth and the angular movement of it's liquid parts.

I have yet to see someone discuss a reasonable solution to the climate change and pollution problem in these fucking threads. Hint:Its because there isn't one. OP is literally wasting his time, and so are we.

>Gore
their job is to exaggerate and lie, even though Trump does it way better

Earth will become inhospitable to humans
Other lifeforms will still exist

>nearly every planet in the solar system has a similar axis of rotation

Not really.

We believe in natural climate change, which has been happening since creation.

As for man-made climate change, it's not as bad as the "projections" make it out to be. Take your pro-globalist bullshit somewhere that people like to swallow nonsense, because you're in the wrong place, faggot.

user... Are you stupid?

Yes really
Aside from the far planets, every planet is upright because of how the solar system formed
There are exceptions (especially farther away), because they went through different conditions when forming

But you do understand there is more at play than just the rate of energy absorbed by a gas right?
the entirety of the global warming model doesnt hinge on just that

So. Earth 4.5 billion years old. Us...last 100,000 years. Recording Weather Data for last 200 years. Tell me again how 200 years of data correlates to 4.5 billion years of climate changes?

Oh. Wait. Al Gore knows.

Source? I am curious, also since when? But hy are all the people that are pro-GW always globalist though?

The dutch will be left behind like the rest of the shitskins.

Full nuclear power in the form of Fast Breeder Reactors to consume our current store of 'waste fuel'. LFTR to be the mainstay of the reactor fleet.

Use the high temperature LFTR to produce 1:1 replacements for liquid oil based fuels. Have a zero pollution energy system.

??? Do you not know how to read statistics you just posted lots of graphs that disproved your point

I`m really fucking glad because of that. I fucking hate winter. Our climate is fucking shitty as fuck. Can`t wait for all year summer

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That graph only goes back 1500 years, or approximately ZERO fucking seconds ago in the span of human evolution. Also the graph is skewed to make HALF of a fucking degree look like much more than it actually is.

Oh no, the global temerature is half a degree warmer than it was 1000 years ago, better tax everyone!

This is simply not true, as there are far more cattle than there were formerly. Think of how many it takes to feed such a massive population. We have more grazing animals than ever before.

You can't argue with the brainwashed global warming tards. Don't even try they will ignore every factual argument and look every false infographic ,they don't even understand themself, up.

>But you do understand there is more at play than just the rate of energy absorbed by a gas right?
Not when you are talking about heating a system it's not. Unless adding more CO2 is going to change how other gasses absorb energy or how the ground reflects energy it doesn't matter. We already know that water vapor is just about impossible to change, due to a negative feedback cycle of vapor to cloud formation.

>the entirety of the global warming model doesnt hinge on just that
The damage predictions hinge on other aspects but the warming part is limited to gasses.

Chinese people also dislike pollution, believe it or not
cleantechnica.com/2016/09/29/china-cities-overwhelmingly-want-renewable-energy/
marketwatch.com/story/chinas-growth-in-renewable-energy-raises-overcapacity-concerns-iea-2016-10-25
skepticalscience.com/china-leading-role-solutions.html
eesi.org/briefings/view/071415china

>Oh. Wait. Al Gore knows.
He has a time machine and can make graphs go back in time when needed.

This is the level of science that drives global warming.

Honestly this theory gets better and better every day. If the Jews sealed us in under a flooded dome and froze the perimeter to keep us in, of course they'd make a huge stink about it melting. Then we can finally escape and see the rest of the world those greedy, grubby gremlins are hiding from us.

>retard can't into graph
that graph is the temperature RATE OF CHANGE
and the RATE OF CHANGE has been massively increasing over the past few years, meaning global warming is accelerating

Cattle also take up 50% of all US farmland to raise, whereas other food takes up way less

Are you saying that water vapor is less dense than air? What are temperature differentials, convection, etc.
and no, we're not absorbing the energy at that wavelength, that's retarded. Most of it is still being reflected back into space shit for brains

>So who is on top of mount stupid now?
You you fucking imbecile

Not absorbing all the energy at the wavelength that CO2 absorbs*

This is just proof that this faggot is only playing devil's advocate to trick people into arguing against global warming.

This guy is a fucking fag. He's just testing you.

Chinese people are trying to deal with their pollution - their air isn't clean and their rivers are full of shit. That's what China is concerned about. This has literally nothing to do with global warming.
It's like saying Japan is trying to combat global warming because they're sick of smog in their largest cities.

>the weekly Climate Change thread
>retards keep going on and on about Al Gore
>entire thread is spammed with idiotic internet myths and the same image macros everyone has seen a million times

I'm saying CO2 is more dense than air.

>and no, we're not absorbing the energy at that wavelength, that's retarded. Most of it is still being reflected back into space shit for brains
No it's about 98% absorbed.

Reminder that if the sea heats enough ocean currents will change and we might see a european ice age.

Yes, because reactors can replace the 70% of fossil fuels used by the transportation industry to move goods across countries. They can also be built in a reasonable time frame right? If we started TODAY, it would take a decade before the first reactor even came online. Look at build times for past nuclear plants. So to supplant coal and natural gas, you'd have to build a lot more than one right? I'd give it a 40 year time frame if we started TODAY and it still wouldn't supplant diesel or gasoline in the transportation industry. Shit you can't even replace oil based fuels for some of these applications. Planes are a good example.

>You you fucking imbecile
Do you think the Earth doesn't have a wobble?

Read the Bible. The Earth is a plane and God created it to be completely immovable.

>their air isn't clean and their rivers are full of shit. That's what China is concerned about. This has literally nothing to do with global warming
Because none of that affects the environment, right?
None of that is killing many species and destroying nature around it, right?
It's not like species dying out and the eco-system being messed up causes climate change

Try convincing me not to buy a burger or eat a fucking steak.
pro tip, you cant.