The Iron Pill: Sparta

Is is possible for a "modern day Sparta" to exist?

A nation that emphasizes strength, masculinity, and fearlessness?

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They also emphasized fucking little boys. Sparta is a meme.

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Breh, if that doesn't scare you, nothing will

It's called Russia

No society today can exist that is built for the express purpose of creating elite warriors in order to maintain their control of slaves because firearms have equalized combat and so porn & TV is way better for subjugating people.

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Muslims exist, they have the strength to be feared by the world, the masculinity to be over any women and be fearelessness of superior countries armies.

Plus they kept slaves and fought wars all the time
They were yuge idiots

Spartans wanted to prevent them from becoming pussies by tearing up their boipucis

Sparta's thing was beefy dudes with a combat tactic that was effective that was multiplied by their skill. None of these things are exclusives this day and age.

As for actual traits, doubtful unless you go full North Korea. NK is the best example because media is pervasive and ruins any sort of raising. The world/the media raises children nowadays.

You'd have to close yourself off and indoctrinate your people like NK to manage this.

That's more a testament of how guilt and victim complexing has torn into westerners than them being masculine.

Yeah you could but you would just get your arse handed to you if you even came close to being a threat. You would have to be backed by a nuclear power who would just fuck around with you. No pow pow kung fu strong man would stop the war machines combined arms if they actually wanted to take you out. Also what would be the point? What would you do with your "modern day Sparta" ?

FUCK Sparta. Athens and the Delian League are who we should be emulating. Not backwards, boy-fucking Spartans.

100% of the people on this board probably would have been killed off before they reached the age of 5.

no

sparta was so hard core that it only let citizens go to war

the end results being that there were no citizens left after all the war

the society had some great ideologies: only males soldiers were citizens

only citizens could vote and own land

they used to beat their slaves but one day out of the year let their slaves beat them for shits and giggles

but seriously, why would you want the only people who were your citizens to be out dying in the battle field? thats a terrible strategy

its better to be zog and have the goys dying for you

The Spartans were barbaric pederasts. There were no Spartan poets, no Spartan artists, no Spartan philosophers. Just a bunch of homosexual warmongers. The only reason you're talking about them is based Athenians supported them because they were disillusioned with democracy plus sheer edginess.

Spartans were basically muslims before arabs were even born.

Sparta is a meme
You will cultivate nothing more than pseudo-masculinity.
You will get courage, but you will not get temperance, justice or liberty.
You don't even know what you're asking for here, you do not want to live in sparta.

Reminder: Sparta literally died out because all the men spent all their time shitposting in the barracks redpilling each other and fucking each other's boipuccis rather than breeding and raising families.

Wrong

They were the children and direct descendants of Heracles. They didn't want to destroy the purity of that strength and wanted to die in battle.

I'm pretty sure even people at the time saw modernity looming on the horizon with the unification of so many city states, and they knew the time of war would be over, and that the gods presiding over war were dying/leaving. They probably wanted to leave with their gods, so all of them were ready to die in battle.

I wonder if the old gods will return one day...

But you are talking about them.

Sparta died out because somebody decided to use tactics to win a war instead of letting the retards fight for their honour, and crushed the ever loving shit out of them with inferior resources and troops.

>Implying that the Helots didn't fight in wars alongside their Spartan masters.

It's crazy people believe this. Good Spartan propaganda I guess. In actuality, 6 or 7 Helots were fighting alongside every one Spartan. The image of Spartans as ultimate warriors is a fiction.

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Sparta was incredibly degenerate. Sorry to say it, but it's true. Boy fuckers all of them.

Have u seen the fat ugly slobs who fight on the front lines of syria?

What's your point? "Hurr muh immortality of fame"

They subjugated an entire population of indigenous people, the helots, and would murder them and hunt them for fun. This isn't some social justice "muh 6 garillion" thing, they really were inhuman.

The Spartans were valiant scum. I don't understand how any sane person could idolize them.

Australia is a meme.

You're confusing Sparta with Athens.

Sparta sucked why would you want that

Wrong, they actually considered it:
>Xenophon in his Constitution of the Lacedaimonians says that Spartan customs were unsuited to pederasty: a man might aim for idealized friendship with a boy but a sexual relationship was considered "an abomination" tantamount to incest.
Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pederasty_in_ancient_Greece#Sparta

>kill children for arbitrary physical defects - or any other reason, really
>kill anybody going against this practice
>enslave most of the population
>let foreigners in 'if they can'
>be against walls
>have jews in top
>be heavily corrupt, so much as to have the Persians take note that they were the 'easiest Greeks to bribe'
>promote feminism, female ownership and rulership
>all heterosexual intercourse is illegal for those not of the highest caste
>laws matter only if caught
>promote traditional cuckolding (get a younger man to plow your wife for better and stronger children)
Take the irony pill.

The Spartans were retards who only invested in hoplites and didn't bother building a wall around their city. That worked out all fine and dandy until this niqqa right here fucked their asses raw and made them into some irrelevant regional city despite being outnumbered 2-to-1.

Their ascetic lifestyle was a meme. They lived relatively comfortable lives as their helots did all the manual labor and their perikioi did all the trades. Only thing they did well was drilling in hoplite formation, and not only did that become obsolete when the Thebans simply re-innovated it a bit, but the Macedonians also got them off-guard and out-disciplined by having all their troops being full-time professionals that drilled more often, had better logistics that made them travel much faster and further, and newer battle tactics and weapons that made their whole lifelong efforts of military training worthless.

>Literally who was Tyrtaeus.

Sparta was an oligarchy that spent most of its time trying to keep its slaves in line.

The ritual of Spartan manhood was to sneak out into the night and murder a helot in cold blood, both as an instrument of fear and also as a way to indoctrinate the Spartan youth into their fucked up society.

Not only that, but the fucking traitorous fucks literally accepted monetary aid from Persia during the Peloponnesian War in order to build the navy they needed to fight Athens at sea.

They destroyed the Athenian League and then proceeded to leave a weakened Greece ripe for the taking by a Macedonian strongman.

Oh, and the 300 at Thermopylae? Most of those who died at Thermopylae were NOT Spartans.

Correct! They were Thespians, Phocians, and the Helots made up the bulk of the Greek forces at Thermopylae, not the Spartans.

Yep, the men that made the final stand were largely helots.

It's hard to find a society worth imitating. There's always something substantially fucked up about it.

On a side note, if you're book fag, Gate of Fire is a great read.

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Are you telling me Frank Miller lied to us?
>this isn't sparta

Check Sparta wedding ritual. Literally cosplay of boy rape in the military barracks.

We do have aspects of Spartan society in ours.

More Elitist people detach themselves from their children and put them in Bordering schools.

The whole idea of Spartan trials were to make kids independent thinking, and hard headed.

Elitist send their children to Bordering schools for the same reason.

Spartans were Elitist, they were so great because they were all self aware due to the trials as children.

Self Aware people are stronger and more determined. People who know themselves, find themselves when they're lost in the wilderness, if you don't find yourself as a child, then you're lost forever.

spartans were faggots.

prussia did militarism better and without all the boy rape.

After most of the battle, a small group of men stayed behind to distract the majority of the attacking Persians so the majority of the greek forces (which was around 4000 I think) could retreat, This last stand force was the Spartans and the helots along with some other.

>Bordering
kek Boarding schools

>Elitist send their children to Bordering schools for the same reason.
Boarding

>They subjugated an entire population of indigenous people, the helots, and would murder them and hunt them for fun. This isn't some social justice "muh 6 garillion" thing, they really were inhuman.
Knights and serfs. At least they did to another nation not their own people.

Yes, and its called Sweden

This. Spartans were retards who refused to innovate their military and got btfo by an entire army of literal buttfuckers as a result.

All Greeks were overran by a horse. Including greatest minds of Athene.

no - that time has passed. Thankfully.

this.
brains>brawns

You are confusing tribal Arabian social morals & customs with the Islamic religion.

Is Nazi Germany considered modern?

>laugh from Rome

strict "eugenics" didn't allow for the society to be sustainable unless you mandate that every woman shit out a score of children.

>tactics
You mean they were outnumbered and just winged it and ended up winning by luck.

To answer the OP, Sparta was one of the earliest recorded republics. Rome was heavily influenced by them and the US was heavily influenced by Rome. US is probably the closest politically to Sparta. If you are speaking principally such as military and makeup of coutry it would be Israel