Why is Sup Forums ok with prostitution yet you hate rapists? How can you hate refugees for apparently being rapists when you defend prostitution?
So many people on here seem to think that payment=consent when in reality payment=exploitation on economic position. Intact, prostitution is the epitome of male power fantasy, i.e. RAPE. Men BUY sex to experience dominance and to confuse the victim into thinking the rape and abuse is consensual (payment IS NOT consent)
Anyone who considers themselve against rape, must vehemently oppose prostitution, and work to bring justice to victims.
Prostitution is the only valid profession for a woman
Landon Ramirez
>Why is Sup Forums ok with prostitution I'm not
Luis Long
this is one of the worst threads i've seen in a few days. hang yourself retard.
Oliver Garcia
Rape should be legal.
Hudson Myers
t. Nigger
Adrian Davis
t. rape victim
Jackson Brooks
> volountary exchange of money for a service between consenting adults is rape > paying someone for a service is exploitation
Too much Marxism in your head, lad.
Jason Scott
Then why don't you do something to help the victims? Why aren't you out their protesting to make the 'purchase' of sex illegal? Why aren't you naming and shaming the men who do this? Because it's the only thread that has nothing to with the American election? Because you don't want serious political debate?
Landon Johnson
I guess hookers are ok but pimps are not
Luis Walker
t. stupid leaf
Matthew Young
oh my god nobody cares go away
Cameron Hill
Her body her choice, or what is this >current year meme > not feminist?
are you just ableist rapist yourself or what you trying to do here you cis minded ultra scum!
James Perry
Prositutes aren't an 'outlet' for men, they're human beings with feelings and needs, exploiting the situation for your own power fantasies IS NOT consent
and before you continue this is 2016 post not some MILLION YEARS OLD 2013 post, come on, get to the current year with your backwards thinking you fucking idiot.
Brody Turner
> they're human beings with feelings and needs >yeah needs for money >they get paid, i get laid
get fucked lad.
Asher Gonzalez
That's what A FUCKING LEAF does as well. So it's probably actually a shit idea, Norway must have it wrong.
Liam Howard
Distinguish between forced prostitution ( human trafficking) & regular prostitution you stupid white knight faggot. I support the stupud bitches that whore themselves because they want the easy way& make more $ instead of working minimum job & move up.
Aaron Walker
>women don't have agency to do what they choose with their own bodies
it's like arguing with children, lads
Austin Diaz
Troll No, your exploiting the economic situtation, and on top of that, you put al responsibility on the victim, poor woman need assistance, no exploitation No, all prostitution is exploitation, your justifying your male power fantasy by claiming the exchange of money counts as consent
Cameron Collins
Read the fucking article, prostitution is male power fantasy, modern politically correct feminism is maintaining the patriarchy and status quo
Robert Price
go cry in a corner with your ctr friends yew massive faggot MAGA
Levi Mitchell
What counts as consent? She spreads her legs & takes the $ No one is putting a knife to her throat or holding her down forcefully
Brayden Hughes
so you decide not to care about that womans voice.
shame that brexit got to you and you never could cope with the thought your family might have to go back to pakistan. i'm sorry for you i truly am but listen here if it makes you feel any better. i known much worse shitposters do much better posts than this.
James Allen
Are you implying women can´t make their own decisions and shouldn´t decide over what they do with their own body?
Andrew Thomas
Yeah, yeah, and relationships are exploitation of aesthetics and personality. Quit being so silly.
Dominic Turner
Many men work shit degrading jobs that they don't want to for long hours & shit pay in order to support family. Do you view them as being forced into slave labor? Everyone trades their labor, abilities, time, etc for survival. You're just cherry picking & following a narrative because muh vagina
Ethan Nguyen
Consent is when BOTH involved in something want it, the prostitute wants the money, NOT the sex. Prostitution is male power fantasy because it allows lonely men who don't respect woman get sex without having to change, the exchange of services is then treated as consent when it's not, it's rape.
Aiden Davis
>the prostitute wants the money, NOT the sex
I'd rather get the sex for free. Does that mean I was robbed?
Caleb Price
Troll Here you go again putting the blame on the woman as if she wanted the sex, she DOESNT. She wants the money because of the situation she's in, men want to prostitutes because they can do anything with them and not feel guilty because they put the blame on the woman by claiming purchase=consent
Why is this so hard to understand?
Sebastian Rodriguez
>Make an agreement that in exchange for a pre-determined sum of money you would have her consent in certain sexual acts for a period of time >She can still say no to certain sexual acts (i.e. anal, fetishes, etc.) or tell him to stop after the pre-determined time has passed
Only in the second situation, where if the man continues going, it would be rape. Otherwise it is a trade, and by accepting the deal shows her consent, especially when she still has the power to tell them to stop.
Landon Ross
whats your opinion on this, are the males being opressed here?
No, it's not comparable, the men pay to take moral responsibility away from themselves
Connor Ramirez
>Consent is when BOTH involved in something want it,
No, Consent is when both parties AGREE to something, When it comes to prostitution that meens the prostitute agrees to having sex in exchange for money
>he wants the money because of the situation she's in, >men want to prostitutes because they can do anything with them
And so they CONSENT to having SEX FOR MONEY because both parties get what they want and they agree to the terms.
Dylan Reed
>prostitution is male power fantasy
That doesn't make sense.
Prostitution gives the power to the female, who would imbibe the fantasy, if anything.
Ayden Parker
This
Chase Fisher
Also this, the prostitute decides the terms of the agreement, not the customer.
Jason Howard
>payment=exploitation on economic position.
Mid to high class escorts in Moscow can put down what i earn in 6 monder under a fucking week
unless we're talking some white-slavery type thing which only happens in Israel and "Taken" movies, prostitution is one of the most lucrative things a woman can do.
I know for a fact there are up to mid-level female corporate execs and lawfirm employess who turn tricks on the side
not to mention that modelling agencies and luxury brand stores are basically networking events for them
you're just some out-of-touch whiner misinterpreting some feminist bullshit, right?
Bentley White
No. I pay to get laid.
I'm doing this either way. Prostitutes just simplify the process.
Justin Edwards
What moral responsibility are you talking about?
Joseph Long
There wouldn't be a buyer without a seller. Why is this so hard to understand. If she doesn't want to have sex with strangers she shouldn't put it up for sale.
Jack Allen
you claim Troll everytime your ass is handed to you, please sir you can't be this stupid?
and btw, next time i'm thinking about getting a prostitute like such as your mother, i'll go ahead and not, you showed me, truly how poor those women have it. now i guess i just meet random women and when they want to get into relationship i'll just tell them "i was told going to a whore like OP's mom is being a rapist so i just thought i fuck you instead and get on with it. so no hard feelings but you are replacement of a whore.
In some countries it's already illegal to pay for sex, the English speaking countries are falling behind when it comes to rape prevention. I can't watch on phone.
Jaxson Davis
Prostitution is the litteral oldest profession. Go fuck yourself, you probably got turned down by a hooker for being to fucking disgusting.
Charles Gray
>I'm 4 Pr NOT ofit!
Blake Ross
Get the fuck out of here with that. The payment itself isn't consent, when she puts it in her purse and bends over is when the consent happens. "Wanting" and "consenting" are entirely different things.
Brandon Lee
What is the moonspeak on her hands trying to tell me?
Austin Richardson
>I can't watch on phone >posts multiple links at once and longwinded replies every 2 minutes. >on phone
check mate.
Jayden Russell
You didn't refute anything I said. This isn't a conversation about the legality of prostitution.
Please do not avoid valid points.
Evan Sanders
Are you implying that women actually have any agency and are more than just vapid whores?
Noah Clark
The responsibility of rape and male violence and overpowering of women
Austin Evans
yes it's still rape if I rape then throw money at them
prostitution is not the same thing you dolt
Camden Torres
Read the articles I'm posting I swear none you guys care about rape and just use it as a way to hate refugees yet ignore it any other time
Gavin Stewart
men being dominant over women sexually is how it was meant to be, look at the animal kingdom, even fags do this, you get a top and a bottom, the bottom is always the effeminate one in the couple.
Hudson Jones
Are you implying that just because some guys in the past raped prostitues i cant now pay them and have sex with consent? (I posted definition of consent before)
Easton James
And what about male escorts? Is that rape? And if not, why?
Christian Thomas
>The responsibility of rape and male violence and overpowering of women
If this was the problem, then why are they paying for consent in the first place?
If we live in a society that has 'male violence' and 'overpowers women', then why does Prostitution even exist?
Surely it would be cheaper to pin them to the sidewalk and rape them, no?
Shouldn't the fact they are not doing that and even communicating with the other party like it is a human being destroy your whole stance?
>inb4 "troll" or this post being ignored
Mason Mitchell
>Anyone who considers themselve against rape, must vehemently oppose prostitution, and work to bring justice to victims.
Is what you said, there is no inherent rape or injustice in prostitution, you're talking about women getting forced into prostitution.
But that isn't an argument when you're simply talking about the idea of prostitution.
Leo Cruz
>Women can get paid to have sex and numales will still defend them
WEW LASS
Liam Miller
I just want to pay a girl to psychologically dom me. Then some face sitting, some peggin then maybe some chicken tendies.
Lucas Rogers
t. leafless leaf
Leo Mitchell
We all talked about Brexit when you had your time to shine you fucking monkey
Andrew Nelson
No it's not, why do you keep trying to justify rape? No, in implying that any man who uses prostitutes is a rapist who doesn't want to feel guilty about rape, which is why they pay. It's false consented male power fantasy, why is it so hard to understand?
Thomas Rivera
men pay for the woman to leave after wards, not for the sex itself. please _^)
Austin Wood
You should be a contestant in the mental olympics
William Nguyen
Sooo, if i pay a prostitute to tie me up and peg me in the ass, i would still rape her? >tfw being able to rape prostitues with my ass while tied up
Jacob Williams
>forcibly taking a product == product being voluntarily sold Perfect logic, you god damn commie.
Angel Butler
Men who pay male prostitutes are rapists also Because men want to separate the women they love (that are close to them) to the woman they want to hurt and over power, in the past men would use prostitutes and take their anger on them so they don't hurt there wife, they no it's wrong which why they don't do it to those they love, so they make out the exchange of money for sex is consent rather than rape.
Brayden Foster
Rape is essentially theft
Christopher Price
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Luke White
Troll It's not hard to understand if you read the articles I post Yes, your paying the woman for your own fantasy, not hers
Angel Ramirez
In what fucking world do you live where men only use protitutes to take out their anger?
No sane person that purchases services from a prostitute is looking to hurt them (unless S&M is involved of course) mentally or physically.
You assuming that makes a strong case for you being autistic along with all your other responses, you still haven't told anyone how the prostitute somehow can't consent just because she doesn't want the sex alone.
Aaron King
1 Legalize prostitution 2 Require every customer to give the prostitute info on social services that would provide living needs 3 Prostitute would rather fuck for money and not be a leech on society 4 Everyone wins. OP BTFO
Jayden Jones
Do you not read what you write? You say she doesn't want the sex, what is unwanted sex? rape.
Lincoln Nguyen
So paying the woman for her fulfilling my fantasy in exchange is rape?
Justin James
>Men don't want to beat their women so they hire prostitutes
I think the men who hire prostitutes most likely do not have other women in their life, and if they do it is likely a high class whore, who are regularly treated well.
Besides, I'd like to see if violence in prostitution is actually serious, and if your stance on Male Prostitutes is the same. If a woman hires a male prostitute, is it rape on the man?
Kayden Sanchez
That poor woman!
Lincoln Fisher
Read the articles I post.
Short answer: YES
The exchange itself does not count as consent
Nicholas Cook
It will decrease the current value for pussy.
Women will try harder to get men, because they will have to compete with prostitutes.
Wyatt Parker
still sort of waiting for a response to this
Hudson Taylor
In your definition, if i buy goods from store, i am actually stealing them
Henry Mitchell
No, rape is non-consensual sex, an inherent wanting for sex is not needed to consent to sex.
I can consent to a fine without wanting to be fine. I can consent to paying a certain amount for a second hand couch even though I don't think it's worth that much.
If you don't understand that then we're through here since your IQ is probably under 60
No, consenting to the exchange counts as consent.
Cooper Bennett
OP why aren't you outraged???? He is raping her!!
Jayden Evans
So it's a male power fantasy instead, why does this man NEED to see a prostitute instead of jacking it off? Because he wants to overpower someone.
Jeremiah Williams
No, because having sex is better that jacking off.
Alexander Foster
>Why is Sup Forums ok with prostitution yet you hate rapists?
What the fuck is this even a question?
Prostitution is the woman's choice to exchange her body for money.
Rape is someone else physically assaulting a woman intending to harm her for his own gratification.
Jaxson Smith
Holy kek I sincerely thought you were the cuckposter
No one is reading your sources. Your arguments alone are weak and no one is going to take time to read news articles from heavily biased news sources.
Why does the woman NEED to see a prostitute instead of using a dildo? Because she wants to overpower someone.
Yes, that is the point of sex, most sex involves minor S&M elements in the form of dominance and submission.
Also, one more question. If the female does something the male prostitute does not consent to, how likely do you think it is that anyone would listen to the male prostitute and take him seriously?
Now consider the same question, but with the genders flipped. How easily would people believe she was raped?
Honestly, I really hope you are just playing devil's advocate for your own sake.
Ian Brooks
>patriarchy Neck yourself.
Isaac Cooper
You dismissed rape and exploitation as just something that happens in movies and then you expect a reply taking you seriously? Fuck off. Nope A fine isn't a power fantasy, a fine isn't the same as rape
Bentley Miller
What about women who pay male escorts for sex? Which one is the rapist?
Jaxson Evans
He won't respond to it in any legitimate way at all because it undermines his whole position.
Eli Mitchell
>A fine isn't a power fantasy, a fine isn't the same as rape
We're talking about the definition of consent, which you don't seem to understand.
CONSENT = AGREEING TO SOMETHING
You can AGREE to something without wanting EVERY aspect of it.
If you don't agree then tell me why, you have refused to answer this numerous times.
Adrian Nguyen
>Purchasing a product >Stealing product
I bet you're a google.
Justin Morris
>Russia claims that sex trafficking doesn't happen
Benjamin Turner
already tried that one mate he/she completely ignored the question.
Luis Sanders
Then why can't you get a gf or a consenting woman who doesn't need your money? No it's not, it's the economic exploitation of woman, read the thread and articles I posted. Oh because the BBC is biased right? And most sex is between consenting partners who aren't doing it for money
Jeremiah Diaz
Indeed. At this point i cannot tell if this is some legit meme-iduced autism or we're being baited really hard