Beth

>Beth was a little serial killer psycho
Huh, no wonder Rick left...

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I kinda hate this assassination of her character. Before she was just an imperfect mother. Now she's a psychotic piece of shit: a Rick, but without Rick's sentimental realization that he likes his family in old age and his intelligence. She's literally just a really shitty Rick now.

It also makes Rick appear an even worse father and makes no sense. Beth never exhibited any psychopathic tendencies before. A kid like that would have grown up to be a monster. Not just an emotionally detached adult.

the porn of young beth is nice

This

She was just stuck in an awful relationship with heavy abandonmentt issues and a drinking problem

Is it? There's so little, and none of it is high-tier.

I'm fine with her having been a little monster but it makes me wonder how she outgrew it.

Agreed. All of Beth's best material is her normal appearance. There's been none that's particularly good on-model and nothing all that interesting otherwise for her younger self. Some of its okay but the poses and situations are dull or the art style/quality is off. The best pic we have is that fully clothed shad one.

i hope shadman does some of young beth and a horse

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I want a sentient switchblade

Does Shadman even do horse cock? I thought that was the other artist whose shit he hosts on his site.

Its clear even without Jerry she'd end up as an alcoholic

without jerry she's just a shitty person too

a shitty parent, not a psychopath

He definitely used to, seems like he leaves it up to JLullaby lately.

>this little girl walks up to you and demands ice cream while holding a giggling pink switchblade
Would you deny her an iced cream, Sup Forums?

i was hoping it would go for a
>Beth, youre not my original daughter. Not from any universe or reality.
>What we did to Timmy, with the finger, i did the same to you
>Ew
>I cloned you, dumbass! Your mom and you died and it was my fucking fault!

is this a thinly veiled cunny post, Sup Forums?

Same. It sounds like it'd be a really great friend.

>Hi user, you got taller! Is it time to resume stabbing?
After all those years and it's just pleased as punch you decided to pick her back up again.
I wish anyone was that happy to see me

Nice spoiler, faggot.

That screencap is from the season premier, user. We've only seen young Beth in that flashback/fantasy.

Im surprised how tumblr and reddit found a way to like sociopath beth.
Wasnt the whole episode´s point to prove she was shit? And now everyone loves her?

She was boring, now she's fucked up and less boring. Makes sense to me.

It's an interesting angle, I kinda dig it. Plus it makes sense that Ricks daughter would be more fucked up than the average depressed forty-something.

Tfw this is why I can never go back to my animal crossing new leaf town. Not because I'm afraid my villagers will be mad at me for not talking to them for so long, but because I know they'll all be happy to see me and they'll go back to treating me as if I never left for all these years

I don't deserve friends this nice

now this would've been interesting

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it weirded me out because she was allways a cunt, and now shes an even bigger cunt, so this fixes nothing.
In any case you should hate her more.

I feel you.

>Beth was a little serial psycho
She's not a psycho, she's smart.

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Beth left, too.

gee i wonder why Rick was able to be so upbeat at the end of the episode, and so casually said he loved her, when traditionally he has been so reluctant to profess his affection in that way

Remember when he praised the shit out of her pancakes? All the Citidel Ricks were extra nice to her too, during their first appearance.

You're not autistic and anti-social.
Worse, you're smart.

If someone was scary, why would you make them weapons?

Maybe she threatened him

But those Ricks weren't the RICKEST RICK and would never conform to any government. He's the most himself, not like those hivemind Ricks.

>His praising in the first episode was a distraction from the "high concept scifi rigamarole" argument, and Jerry even commented on Rick using it as an escape
>It has been shown many times that all other Ricks are similar to our Rick, but not quite as... Rick. It would stand to reason that most other Ricks are probably more open and emotionally honest than ours, if only barely. A Rick's a Rick, but noone's more Rick than Rick. That, or I just had a stroke.

Couldn't Rick easily counter anything a child wanted to do to him? Even if she were going to kill him in his sleep, he still just needs to set up a force field around his bed.

You don't understand. Beth is smart. And ignore how she's shown no aptitude for being a part of Rick's world prior, that's just the direction they're going with her now.

That was an interesting episode but holy fuck they turned Beth into one of the most unlikable characters on the show

no it wouldn't

>"le life not matter xD"
>deep

This show is breeding a new generation of nihilistic retards. Mark my words. Nihilism will be the new Atheism.

Beth has always been a bitch, everybody on this show is unlikeable except for the kids i guess.

Are all smart people evil?

t.dummy

Ricks description of what smart was, is literally what serial killers think

Because Rick is an actual serial killer. He is basically a hedonist justifying his action on the notion of nihilism.

Rick's thought process is this: It feels good doing bad shit. But those who are victims of my actions should not feel bad because life is meaningless.

smart people transcend the good/bad dichotomy

so, yes.

Morality is a chain made to hold mediocre people in place so everyone else can freely do whatever they want without worrying about backlash. Ask yourself what your moral guidelines really achieve at the end of the day besides giving you a false sense of superiority and empty satisfaction whenever someone better than you fucks you over without a second thought.

Evil is knowingly taking actions which inflicts suffering on others. Being smart is not an excuse for being a bad person.

same

No, but pretentious people who believe themselves to be smart often think so. As Homo-Sapiens is a social species that works in groups to survive systems of good behavior actually increase the survival chances of both the group and the individual participating. Morality is in essence "The winning play" for our species.
For example when tribe member x helps tribe member y survive somehow, all of y's expertise, knowledge, and ability is now preserved to save member x at a later date. Those who abuse this system by taking help from others but not helping them survive in-turn soon find themselves up shit creek without a paddle as those they need to survive are all dead, while the tribe that wasn't "evil" and helped each other survived.
In short, Nihilism is the doctrine of stupid people who think they are smart or smart characters written by dumb writers.

Morality is a guideline, not a box for you to force yourself inside at every juncture. I won't argue that it has anything to do with intellect since that seems to be your main hang-up, but successful people find a way to subvert these moral guidelines through loopholes and exceptions. The same could be said for most human beings who get anywhere in life. Constantly living for the betterment of the collective means sacrificing your own happiness and prosperity for no other reason than because "it's what's best for everyone". There's no nobility or superiority in a self-effacing life. True survival is found in balancing selfishness with selflessness and taking what you want when the opportunity is afforded to you. You can cite tribal methods as much as you like, but society has progressed to a point where capitalistic intrigue and cunning are rewarded with financial achievement and where breaking away from the crowd to explore your own individualism is usually beneficial.

We aren't living in the wild and fending against predators anymore. So long as you stay out of legal trouble and protect your own interests, you should be fine.

You ct is as if people don't still have families (both nuclear and extended ones) and wide social circles. Even a self made billionaire maintains his position through social reciprocity. why do you think these rich people are all friends? The answer is they help each other out just like every social circle does. You can get away with screwing some people over, but you've got to have some buddies who have your back.

Rick interpreted her behaviour as psycho but wouldn't every kid ask for really cool weaponizable shit? Yes, she had a father irresponssible and smart enough to make her. Combine that with that being the only time Rick spent with her (why she enjoyed it and ultimatly favored this kind of behaviour with tommy) and Rick tendancy to blame other and run from his responsiblity ...
and you have the reason he called her a psycho and she went along with it

Morality is not dependent on intelligence, though.

I never said it was. Just mediocrity.

It doesn't have to be some black and white approach, it's more complicated. Empathy and mirror neurons only exist in social animals because they were needed for survival. In tv and movies, sociopaths are always hyper successful geniuses. But in real life, most sociopaths can't take care of themselves, can barely hold down jobs, are in and out of prison, have below average IQs and so on. Not being able to understand the emotions of others is a huge detriment in people. You're more likely to be successful if you're capable of empathy, but also just capable of ignoring it.

A kid can ask for that shit and be given it, but using it is a whole other ball game. Kids do not immediately start stabbing people if they get their hands on a weapon.

If Rick can create perfect clones and he was around long enough to know Beth as a kid, why didn't he make a clone of himself to put up with her instead of leaving her completely alone?

>ywn be american and understand what the fuck posts like this are talking about

all people are evil. some just plan ahead and make it look unintentional.

>child is violent and devoid of empathy
>"Dad, what's wrong with me?"
>"You're smart!"
WUT
What in the fuck was that exchange? Are we supposed to take this seriously? Was this written by a 15yo edgelord?

>Beth never exhibited any psychopathic tendencies before.
She grew up to be a surgeon, so this wasn't completely out of left field.

That's a meme. Surgeons aren't sociopaths from the beginning. They just learn to detach themselves and come off as sociopaths sometimes.

Horse hoof scultpure

So? Glue is made of that. How many arts and crafts contain glue?

A rick clone is more likely to go blade runner probably

>but using it is a whole other ball game. Kids do not immediately start stabbing people if they get their hands on a weapon.
There's nothing to suggest Beth did either.

this

>"Do you wish to resume stabbing?"
>"resume stabbing"
>"resume"
>implying you can resume something you didn't do before
Also would Rick waste time building his super-chicken-coop if there was no problem with Beth in the first place?

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Not at all

This is you stroking your game theory cock over a theory that holds no weight like a couch couldn't hold your fat mom

she seemed like a normal child with a enabling genie for a dad

Holy shit, it's Beth in real life if she hadn't got knocked up:
theguardian.com/law/2017/sep/25/oxford-student-lavinia-woodward-gets-suspended-sentence-for-stabbing-boyfriend

Kids who are abandoned will do insaine things for attention.The more they are ignored the more extreme the behaviors become.

Children do not have a sense of right and wrong for a while also.

Rick literally built her an arsenal of murdering tools, she would be even worse with Rick around.

She would never ask for kidnapping tools if her dad was around.

Every iteam in the box is for kidnapping.
She wanted to have friends and make sure they would never leave her or lie to her.

Somebody say "shadman"?

If evil exists, there must be good. Questions is, if humans are evil, what in nature is good?

Evil describes the loser. Any idiot can attain victory.

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Sadly this is the best lewd image for this version of the character. Everything less tame than this is just sort of uninspired or not that great

why do shadman characters all have that concentration camp skellington look

huh I just realized this puts Morty in a similar situation to Marty

Easily his best pic along with Summer. If only he weren't so into sluts and bimbofication

Last episode sucks

Isn't our Rick the third Rickest Rick?

I onky know the second most Rickesr Rick is a weirdo.

She didn't care if Tommy would leave her. She just left him to die. Rick also mentioned she would kill animals.

You're confusing eviliest with rickest.

Three seasons in. Now we’re getting information that she was like that as a child. Seems like serious retconning that wasn’t foreshadowed at all in the first season.

Rick loved his kid and he's a shitty parent, and like all shitty parents who love their kids he indulged her.

He made froopy land so she would go crazy there so she wouldn't kill anyone or herself and just spend all her energy there.

Also it wasn't much him leaving her there to protect people because he thought she was doing wrong, he tells her that he couldn't clone all of the neighbors or clean up the destruction she caused. Hell he probably also did it to keep someone from retaliating against her.

I'm guessing since he left maybe Beth's mom probably didn't indulge her like Rick did and put rules and actually did some parenting, could be why Beth resented her and why she calmed down.

Am I? I need to watch it again

Kids don't know right from wrong and all she knew is that she hated him for what she didn't have.

Animals shows a lack of apathy,also her dad is aways hurting animals with no remorse.

We learn most of our social skills from our parents,she was fucked before birth.

This, Rick indulged her psycho and he probably did because he thinks she's smart but once it got out of hand he locked her up in froopyland everytime she got the urge to do some murdering.

The Evil Rick isn't even the most evil one, there are still plenty of evilier ones. He's just saying that our Rick is almost as evil as Evil Rick.
youtu.be/g-9BfeqJFPE?t=12m32s

Children are evil, or at least sociopaths. So what happens when a kid has access to all this super gadgets, they try to genocide the playground.

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This, while I was in kindergarten my teachers would fuck off and leave us unsupervised.

Well a group of kids got the idea to try and bury my head in sand, they all went and held me down, they put a plastic bag over my head, put it in a hole they made and started filling it.

But at that moment a janitor came in and stopped them and saved me, I went and told my teacher about it and she said "Oh well, don't let thembdo that to you next time"

Also as someone who has worked with little kids, they are psychos and if you give them dangerous stuff like Rick did to Beth I am sure they would murder someone in an instant.

Is this what happens when people let TV raise their offspring?
Around here when kindergarden teachers give scissors to children to make papercutouts, the worst they do is run with them to be naughty. For some reason I never heard of them immidiately trying to stab each other to death