How well would Clarence and his friends fare against It?

How well would Clarence and his friends fare against It?

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Clarence is a naive idiot and would die immediately.

I haven't seen the movie yet. But I have read the book. So I have to wonder. At the end of the movie, does it actually show what happens in the book. You know, at the end, when they are kids and lost in the sewer after they have defeated It and they don't know what to do and the girl come up with a...
"solution".

Did they went nuts and tried to do that in the movie too?

But the power of imagination is what can defeat It. And Clarence is packing.

Jeff is natural fucking Pennywise fodder. Clarence as this guy points out could easily best IT in the Ritual of Chud. Benson feels like just another Henry Bowers waiting to happen.

Against what?

>Did they went nuts and tried to do that in the movie too?
Of course not, what the fuck would possess you to think otherwise?

Funny thing, I didn't knew the triptic cover was exclusive to the French publication. I thought it was the same in the original publication. It really give you a "It's like Goosebumps, except shit is really going down for real, this time" feeling.

It's really what sold me to read on the book. It was mesmerising. Just looking at it, you knew what was inside was something going to be some deep shit. the more you looked at it, the more you feared what you were going to read inside, yet the more you wanted to read it. Really good piece of artwork.

I really think being a kid is the best age to read that book. Being 10 or 11. It's just strike the right cords in every ways. But then there is that part of the ending that' make it all feel really weird.

No they didn't run a train on Bev in the movie. There's no way anyone would put that in a wide release movie

No, thank god.

I don't know, it really came out of the left field when I first read it. So I don't really know if it would follow suit or not.

>let's simulate child pornography in a major movie
Take 5 seconds to actually think about this.

Okay, out of curiosity. Is the turtle in the movie, or at least mentioned.

Man. what was the point of the turtle anyway? Stephen King didn't wannt to include God as a character in his book. Or it's the Christians who would have been pissed that God died doing absolutely nothing helpful and so he put a turtle instead?

I didn't expect child porn in a major distribution book either. Like I said, this part shattered my standard of what is okay and not okay to portray.

It's not really porn if it's written, same as how in most places still purely drawn works don't count as CP either. In theory if you did an animated version you might be able to get away with including the orgy (from a legal perspective anyway), but not in a live action version.

At least we know what the porn parody will contain.

There are references to the turtle, but it never actually shows

What if they replace the kids with dwarf actors?

They'd probably have to portray the characters as being over 18 still.

There's a lego turtle in the movie as well as one when they're swimming. The director also confirmed it to be a part of Chapter 2

IT

But we still would have Dwarf porn, right?

Is it possible to make the spider actually be good/threatening? Or should they just leave it out and do something else?

Against the Doctor.

what?

I wonder how much Cocaine King snorted before he wrote this part

It's not in the first moive?

THE REAL QUESTION IS HOW WOULD IT FARE AGAINST SKYLER PAGE????

They are fighting against it

IT, Richie.

No that would be in part 2. We don't know if they're doing a Spider or not yet

All of it, probably. I'm still of the opinion that this scene and anything related to it could be smoothly excised with no loss to the story overall.

Are you trying to summon the rage-autist from the last threads?

I'm game

Incidentally, It was about to have plenty of baby It eggs, but then, you have wonder,how was it fugged? And by who?

The spider showed up both when they were children and when they were adults, at least in the novel. I haven't seen either the miniseries or the new film.

There's no real reason to rule out asexual reproduction as a possibility, or more esoteric means relating to Its status as a sort of pandimensional being.

I, honest to god, don't know what you are talking about. Was it a Clarence thread, or an It, thread?

>I haven't seen either the miniseries
The spider only appear with the adult, in the miniseries. The kid fight, on the other hand is below anticlimactic (in the mini series, Haven't seen the movie yet).

I can do you one better.
Representation of child's imagination or child's fear?

>who?

So is there a reason King wrote a young girl being gangbanged other than him jerking off? The fuck was the purpose of that?

>The spider only appear with the adult, in the miniseries
gay not that the adult version is really any better from what clips I've seen

It was suppose to bound them together as a group

King could have most likely made it a kiss and had the same effect but whatever, he's a weirdo

It was their back-up plan to not die virgin if they never found they way out ever.

Go to school nelson

okay, reading it with a new eye, now. Beyond the gangbang, before that, SJW must have managed to have affected my brain, but now when I read the part of Bev observing Bill's wife, I can't help but think it's Stephen King literally writing his self-insert having all the girl fawning over him and how great and a prilvilege it is to have been his first love, and truly that Derry make you forgot is the greatest curse of all...

A rousing speech probably could've worked too.

Huh. Sounds like Maine.

Clarence is so Naiive that he wouldn't be scared enough for IT to feed off of his fear. At least not effectively. Clarence would probably say something like "Well if you wanted to be scary, why did you turn yourself into a silly clown?"

My dad is a huge stephen kin fan and the way he explained it to me was that it was supposed to be a defense against IT. As in they used the power of love to cement their bond if it ever came back.

The clown isn't supposed to be the scary form, though. Hell, at one point in the book when we're reading from Its perspective it points out that it uses the clown form as a way to be approachable and non-scary, to lure people in and lower their guard.

I've actually never read IT but I heard about this scene. But I thought it was short or implied but it is actually VERY in depth and thorough. Is there any...real necessary reason for this?
Did Steven King really just wanna write an Erotica and wouldn't let the fact that he's currently working on IT stop him?

>A rousing speech probably could've worked too.
There wasn't much speech but it was arousing.

So um...Which Clarence girl is getting dicked by 3-5 guys?
My money's on Chelsea

Stephen King was high on cocaine and the story deals with kids literally right on the edge of puberty, including a girl who is in puberty. If you think that is weird, wait til you read the part where Pat Hocksteder jerks Henry Bowers off in a junkyard while Bev watches.

>The clown isn't supposed to be the scary form, though. Hell, at one point in the book when we're reading from Its perspective it points out that it uses the clown form as a way to be approachable and non-scary
I know it's the intend of It, but I think It never really managed to nail the non-scary thing. So, he end up being a scary clown no matter how hard he try.

>hich Clarence girl is getting dicked by 3-5 guys
You mean Who Fucking Else?

Bev is hiding to be honest.

>Sounds like Maine.

more like mass, King has made it pretty clear that he hates everyone here, he may as well be a masshole.

Clearly is the redhead.

Some moron was sperging all IT therads he see about IT, it actually had a lot of new pastas full of anger and autism.
Last night was how IT fares in DC and Marvel, at least that should be still in the archive.

They have probably a better chance.

>But I thought it was short or implied

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Was there Gangbang talk there too?

If not for the gang bang scene, there wouldn't be a female character to begin with.

Wait seriously?

I saw the movie and know Henry is a bully so did he like force the poor kid to do it?

Jesus christ Stephen.

>could have most likely made it a kiss and had the same effect

Except that's fucking wrong. The orgy, which isn't actually an orgy rather they all run a train on Beverly, happens for two reasons: 1. it's the climax of Beverly's character, both literally and figuratively, and 2. it's how they reaffirm their bond physically when the outside force that helped them bond together starts to wear off after the defeat of It.

It is a book that's about fighting an alien clown, sure, but it's also about the transition of childhood to adulthood and being forced to grow up. The kids confront a myriad of adult fears and conflicts during the course of the book, and it's towards the end that they confront sex, this big, scary thing that they've all been confused or misinformed about. It's Beverly who figures out that sex isn't evil, it's not the creepy, dirty thing her father made it out to be, or the gross, disgusting thing the girls on the playground think it is, it's the love shared between people. So she does "it" with her friends so they'll always be a part of each other since you never forget your first time. In a smaller way it's also a wrap up to the Bill/Ben/Bev love triangle that's kind of a subplot, also.

I'd write more but I'm just wasting my time because nobody has read the book. I still find it shocking that people get more worked up about some preteen sex than they are of Bev's father admitting he wants to fuck her, or trying to get her pants off to check if her hymen is intact.

Oh, and the parts where kids get mutilated... that too, I guess.

>IT gets flustered at all his forms and attempts to kill them being called "gay", "lame", etc.
>Gets so stubbornly focused on scaring Beavis and Butthead he loses sight of killing them or other kids
>Defeat IT by making IT forget to eat before IT hibernates

I'd watch it.

I don't think that's right. Bev is a full fledged character.

On a side note. For those who read the book and saw the miniseries, wasn't it weird that the Book make such a point of his boyfriend being a super-smoker-hater, beating the crap out of her when she dare to light one and yet, first thing he does when he first appear in the miniseires is light one on his own?

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>I saw the movie and know Henry is a bully so did he like force the poor kid to do it?
No, not like this.

It's like, you know, it's tow straight dude watching porn together, in a totally straight way and then they start to masturbate, in a totality straight way, and then, because they are in the mood, they start handling each other, in a totally straight way, and they one of them acutally figure what the fuck just happened and say he will kill his fucking masturbating bro if he ever mention what happened ever, in a totally straight way.

And the whole time, Bev has been watching, because she accidentally stumbled on their masturbating place and and then they got there too and she had no time to run away, only to hide and she has been watching the whole thing, in hiding, afraid they would kill her if they ever find her, in a totally straight way.

>in a totally straight way

Ah I see

>I'd write more but I'm just wasting my time because nobody has read the book
There is at least several people in this thread who has.

I like your take on the matter, also.

>no homo

Lives in Maine for a long time, you'd be surprised the shit that goes on there. But that's what happens when you isolate a bunch of people into small towns. They get bored and do awful shit.

That also raises the question, which Clarence boy would have the biggest schlong? Who is the Ben of the group?

>. I still find it shocking that people get more worked up about some preteen sex than they are of Bev's father admitting he wants to fuck her, or trying to get her pants off to check if her hymen is intact.
>Oh, and the parts where kids get mutilated... that too, I guess.
I'll give you an hint as to wait people don't fuss so much about that.

Bev's father and the clown are 100% portrayed as being bad things, so it's okay to showcase that in a story because it's presented as bad.

The Pre-teens on a train,on th other hand, is presented as a good thing.
It's that it is presented as a good thing that cause so much fuss.

Clarence would rape it.

It's more the randomness, and honestly silliness, of it.
>Our love for one another is a bond no one can break
>So go ahead and take turns fucking me in a sewer

I do live here. He will literally mock and berate the residents of my home at any chance he gets.

Most of this shit would happen in the towns like Lewiston/Auburn or Portland, ironically the places he feels are the most progressive.

Jeff.

Belson would be the smallest. That's probably why he's so angry all the time.

>He will literally mock and berate the residents of my home at any chance he gets.
You are aware that most of his protagonist also are from main, right?

Main is the setting, with bad people and good people. Why do you only identify with the bad Main resident and can't connect with the good Main resident?

Authors won't include women in their books unless they play a plot point in love, sex or offsprings.

I don't know but somebody needs to make a fanfic about it.

>or offsprings.
That's not a category you can rule out for anyone. Everyone is the offspring of someone else.

I used to live in a town called Boothbay Harbor. That's where most of my beatings came from. The amount of drugs that ran through there too was bizarre, especially when you consider that most of it was by middle and high schoolers.

Better yet a comic.

Well, it isn't like their "masturbating place". She just stumbled upon them when they were lighting farts, and she had to hide, or be beat or worst. And when the other bullies left Patrick kinda convinced Henry to do/let himself do that.

Learn to spell Maine dude.

Nevere

Yes, sorry, I hadn't read in a long time. i am not even sure if it's a handjob or a blowjob anymore.

I'll ignore the fact you spelled my state wrong 4 times, as well as the fact that you assume I was talking only about the characters of his novels.

His writing style is over detailed, he doesn't trust his readers to think so he feels he must paint the entire picture for them. He knows that Mainers will inevitably read his books and through the grace of his superiority complex he must make it 'easy' for us to read. It's infuriating. Hence why all the good movie adaptations of his books tend to be far better than the books themselves (ex. the Shining, Kubrick's middle finger to king's shit).

Then let me rephrase it.
If it's important for a character to have a mum, a mum character get's created and it is female most of the time.

>He knows that Mainers will inevitably read his books and through the grace of his superiority complex he must make it 'easy' for us to read.
You are projecting again.

There is a strong possibilty he simply like being overdescriptive. It's one of the reason many fan of him like his books. it's just how he like to read.

I am quite certain he doesn't write his book solely for the Maine Audience. Most writers tell the stories they would enjoy reading themselves.

Sorry for the misspelling.

Anyway, not true.

I'll admit it's projective in singling out the audience, but his superiority complex is very real.

He must really play to the lowest common denominator to have a fan base of any kind.

>but his superiority complex is very real.
>He must really play to the lowest common denominator to have a fan base of any kind.
Those two affirmation are contradicting.

People with superiority complex refuse to cater to the lowest common denominator.

He has to sell books.

No problem, mate. I read it years ago and recently listened the audiobook to keep things fresh for the movie.

Just read more then.

Maturin is one of the Beam Guardians of the Dark Tower, who whilst long-lived, are just Long-Timers who -will- eventually die. Gan (the "Other" mentioned in the book), is Capital G God, and his aid is the -only- reason as to why IT didn't snack on the kid's souls like popcorn.