A fucking white male

>A fucking white male
>From the 40s
>Isn’t racist, sexist, homophobic, and judges people only on their actions

How is this possible?

Because not everyone from back then was an asshole

Not everybody's like you, user.

Shouldn't he hate the Irish or Italians or something? I thought New Yorkers in the early 20th century hated them

Cap's parents were Irish.

Because he's Steve fucking Rogers, that's why.

Cap is a paddy

He is Irish, and being treated like shit for that is part of why he doesn't have the prejudices typical of the time.

That’s why ultimate cap is 10x better than nu-male cap

Because all fucking white males aren’t bigots.

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>Ultimate Cap is a bigot

Just stop this meme. He’s more brutal than 616 Cap in combat but his ideals are still relatively the same.

>why is a poor, liberal, son of immigrants not a conservative stereotype?

That's not true. Millar wrote most of the Ultimates as horrible people.

Shit, I can't believe Marvel tricked me into liking a subhuman for so long. Thank god I donated my life's savings to the Alt-Hero Kickstarter.

People who the world is shit to for reasons they can't control occasionally develop these things called "empathy" and "compassion", which are open-ended frameworks that allow them to evolve as times change and humanity continues its slow walk towards finally understanding and accepting that individual humans are but automatons in a strange sort of hivemind.

In that case he should really hate gay people because Irish people back then were super devout Catholics

Versus, you know, this (or any equivalent speech from the 70s or 80s). Millar's Cap might be more realistic - he's a nationalist even beyond just the principles of his nation - but who reads superhero comics for realism?

>Back then.
They always have been.

Bro there were even people during slave owning times in America that didn't agree with that shit. It's not hard to believe.

True Miller wrote the Ultimates as horrible people but IIRC that pic related was the only real inflammatory thing Ultimate Cap said. All his assholish traits come in the form of him fighting his enemies. Anything about him being racist or sexist is some lie made up by casuals.

He doesn't live for the country, just the American Dream.

A poor, sickly, Irish American art student raised by a single mother in Brooklyn during the Great Depression. Whose best friend was a gay guy.

>hate gay people

Hoo boy. Y'know how movie and Ultimate Bucky are Steve's childhood friend who defended him from bullies and fixed him up with girls? That is directly lifted from Arnold Roth. Steve's childhood friend in regular continuity. Arnie was gayer than a Bucky/Cap slashfic.

Republicans vs Democrats

He was a second-generation Irish-American from a time when the Irish were treated as second-class citizens and subject to rampant racism. Likewise, one of his best friends growing up was gay, his father was an abusive alcoholic, and he fought alongside various women and people of color during the war and in his capacity as a Golden Age superhero.

>Thank god I donated my life's savings to the Alt-Hero
kek Fucking imbecile

Cap from Timely was intended be white Germanic.

Timely cap spouted sexist and racist stuff

You've read the Ultimates?

Best answer.

go back to bed, Grant

Poor Arnie got his life completely fucked over because he was friends with Cap. First Zemo kills his boyfriend, then Red Skull gets his hands on him...

That's why you should never be friends with superheroes. It just ain't worth it.

This. Ive seen people trying to bullshit that him thinking Fury was Hydra was racist, when he says on the page its because he's personal friends with the highest ranking Black guy in the US military, whose rank is below that of Fury' and is thinking Hydra fucked up their deception.

>(((Roth)))

Yeah. He's Jewish too.

>First Zemo kills his boyfriend
Probably just jealous and suspicious desu.

He won't be homophobic, sexist or racist because he was an Irish immigrant is the most retarded reason. I hope you do know that minorities are more racist, sexist and homophobic than normal people.

Cap is a bit odd in how modern his attitudes are.

My grandfather,
>the least racist person I ever met
according to my grandmother (RIP), still saw the world through a very racial lens. He is still a racist. It's just that he only ever had positive things to say about every race.
>Mexicans are such great fighters. I remember watching Jose Hernandez III box Juan Monroy in Mexico City in 19XX. The best match ever!
>Blacks are such great athletes. You should marry a black girl, and then I can teach my great grandson to be a future NBA AllStar.
>Jews are so clever. That's why the Germans lost, because they killed all of their Jews. Well we got our Jews to invent better bombs.
>I've got a Korean accountant. You should see him with a calculator, he's so good with numbers. I don't think I'll ever hire a non-Asian accountant. Well, maybe a Jewish or Asian one.
>etc.

>Normal people

A real Cap would've been like "What the fuck.. this isn't the America I fought for" upon defrosting and seeing this shithole.

pretty sure that was a joke, user

For a lot of people that could just be $20, I'm surprised how few people actually have savings.

Getting beat up constantly by your own people makes you realise who the real enemies are

>People who the world is shit to for reasons they can't control occasionally develop these things called "empathy" and "compassion"
Is that you Snyder? You can have that without getting shit on.

yeah, he'd probably be pretty disappointed with the clowns running things

Captain America only hates mutants

Even the hero ones are a bunch of dicks.

Thanks, Doctor Sublime!

>it's OK to hate a group if enough of them are jerks

wft I hate all blacks and muslims now

>now

GTFO tumblr nufag

>How is this possible?
My guess is he's suppose to embody the ideals of the American Dream.

"... stay who you are. Not a perfect soldier, but a good man."

And that's who Steve Rogers is. Well, MCU Steve anyway.

Because liberal writers use him as a mouthpiece and write him with achronistic attitudes to validate their own opinions.

It's not rocket surgery.

>Judging people on the content of their character and bot the color of their skin.

What an alt-right white supremacist!

Queers were never part of the American dream.

>liberal

Trying "morally sound human being" for once.

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>implying that guy isn't just adding some more bait

>morality is determined by whatever flash-in-the-pan cause celebre is fashionable in the media right now.

Morality is just being nice and doing the right thing. Now THAT isn't rocket science. It's the Golden Rule. "Do Unto Others" and all that.

Wow. What a fucking concept. Being a decent human being. We'd ALL be better off if we just did that.

I hate how people look to celebrities like they are wisened elders or some shit.

Okay. We were talking about Cap and why he might hew against shitty mid-century common sense. That's why.

>Morality is just being nice and doing the right thing.

And what exactly determines what the "right" thing is, user?

Of course Cap doesn't hate the gays. He just wants them to get the proper treatment for their condition so they can be proper, functional members of society.

Morals are relative. There is no proper morals.

Usually your society, a lot of times based on a religion.

Just look around you. Hell, look at what's going on in Puerto Rico right now. People are dying, without power and food and water. We got private citizens and celebrities doing what they can to help them with whatever they can do, meanwhile we have our President on a golfing trip. Perfect fucking example of what to do and what not to do. Yeah, this sort of discussion belongs in Sup Forums but there it is right there.

Heroes like Captain America (MCU) and Superman all embrace what being heroes are. Doing the right thing, putting politics aside and just simply help people who need it. They embody not only what being a decent American should be, but they embody what being a decent HUMAN BEING should be. Screw "making America great again," we should focus on making OURSELVES great by simply being good.

Just be good.

It's ridiculously simple. Just do what you can with what you have under your own power and help someone out. Ignore race, religion, gender, sexual orientation. That's nothing.

JUST HELP SOMEONE.

That's all. That's it.

It's all anyone should do.

No, he's American, his parents were paddies and only in 616 Marvel.


People who don't read comics like to prerend they are comic experts.

Also Ultimates Annual 2 was a story with Ultimate Cap being fed up with racism.

I guess you can go back and read his 40's comics and that's how his attitude towards races would really have been like.

Nah

>muh poor brown people ;_;

Lets be honest, Puerto Rico is a shithole and has never produced anything of worth.

so is West Virginia but that wouldn't stop the President from helping them if they somehow got bodied by a hurricane

So if I move to Saudi Arabia I can throw rocks at women for talking out of turn? Neat!

Nigger, the Mayor of San Juan was caught deliberatly refusing to coordinate with FEMA just to make Trump look bad.

Then congratulations. You've failed as a human being. You've failed at that simple rule.

"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."

Have fun being left behind.

If you really believe that then congratulations, you got played by the REAL fake news.

>SNL told me something, so it must be true.

>the President told me something, so it must be true

It's still US soil.

Yeah

He wasn't really a typical white guy in the 40's.

He was sickly and practically disabled (in those days he would have been considered a burden ti society) he was mostly raised by a single mother who died when he was in his teens (his father died when Steve was a child and he barely remembers him and he only remembers him being abusive) and he was poor as fuck.

He was also from the Lower East Side which was known in the 30's to be a hub for radical politics and had a lot of controversial people like anarchists, socialists, and communists. He mingled a lot with kids of different backgrounds and his parents were Irish immigrants which means he was discriminated against.

He also worked as an artist in the Federal Arts Project which was a program that was part of Roosevelt's New Deal. A lot of artists in that program were liberals, and some were jews and blacks.

So yeah I can kind of see him being different from the average person in the 30's and 40's of course in the modern day he would still probably have to change his speech (calling people negroes or colored folks is not acceptable anymore).

Eric flip flops, it has nothing with him being a mutant.

Magneto pimped his own daughter and made her dance for him via mind control, I guess that shit is acceptable in degenerate mutant culture but not in a civilized society.

Not to mention House of M and other comicd have showed mutants would hate non-mutants if they were on positions of power.

Not that guy, where do you think you are?