Was Powerpuff Girls from the first western "girlish" cartoon that also appealed to the male audience?

Was Powerpuff Girls from the first western "girlish" cartoon that also appealed to the male audience?

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The Powerpuff Girls wasn't girlish or girly . It was very boyish with girly characters.

By "girlish" I mean with female lead characters. This is why I used the quote marks at girlish. Don't forget that it was released in an era when people thought "It's a show/game/whatever starring little girls, therefore it's for girls only".

Does a show about a tomboy getting into little kid adventures count? Her activities weren't particularly feminine as I remember them.

Yes, and I HATE it for that. It started the trend of forced feminist action girl cartoons, and got all the credit for that shitty "genre" to boot. In fact it ruined things so much that there is a grand total of ONE girl cartoon I know of that avoids falling into either that trap or the girly sparkling princess one, which is the opposite.

If the show was also appealing to the male audience, then yes. I guess. But I never heard of this show before, so I can't tell.

But PPG wasn't forced feminism. Otherwise the majority of the male audience would avoid it instead of praising it.

The merch and marketing was towards girls.

>wasn't forced feminism. Otherwise the majority of the male audience would avoid it
Which is obviously why all SJWs are female.

I'd be willing to say that Beverly Hills High School would fit that role.

Aeon Flux starred a girl and appealed to a male audience.

Don't just finish off like that without naming that ONE cartoon you're talking about, user; what is it?

So did Alien/Aliens, but most feminists don't consider them feminist movies.

Actually many SJWs are male (nu male to be more specific) that harass every woman that dares to disagree with them.

I think he meant in "girlish" as in targeted to little girls.

kinda like mlp

Evidently, the majority of the male audience weren't the type of people to feel politically threatened by "forced" feminism, whatever that means to the people who are.

What is Betty Boop?

I'll do better than that - I'll link you to the main post where I explained WHY I feel that way: (but see the rest of the thread too)

Your sarcasm detector needs tuning.

An adult cartoon for the "male gaze". I am talking for all ages western cartoon.

Where was I sarcastic?

Are you saying kids didn't watch Betty Boop?

She-Ra, motherfucker.

I was in the post you were responding to, moron.

The first fully animated movie, Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs by Walk Disney Studios, was able to appeal to both genders despite being pretty feminine. I think it's predated the Powerpuff Girls by at least 60 years.

I don't think She-Ra was as successful like He-Man. And it was based on a show aiming for boys.

Powerpuff Girls (the OG) worked because it didn't back off from having the girls being highly competent superheroes while also being elementary school girls at the same time. One of the many reasons most women super heroes get a bad rep is because men writing women is laughably terrible. They have no idea how women actually act under crisis, leading them to write characters that buckle under pressure and are incapable of being autonomous (which is probably why so many basement trolls genuinely believe women are actually incompetent). They even call it out at one point when the girls decide to take up mantles of their favorite comic book heroes only to realize those heroes in a real life context would be laughably under prepared and most powers in comics have very little practical applications. Powerpuff Girls accepted that these girls who grew up with super powers would understand at least to an extent how to use them, and didn't question their abilities to save the day. Most episodes dealt with the girls dealing with realistic problems with the monsters an monster fighting as a metaphor for more abstract concepts that kids across the board dealt with. Crushes, bullies, bad words, curfews, even dealing with your parents dating someone less than stellar. The plots didn't rely on their gender as a plot point, but rather as a character trait.

Just one of a load of cookie-cutter animated versions of live action shows that they used to shit out back in the 80s. This one just happened to be based on a show starring a girl IRL.

True but the show wasn't made for girls. It was made for everyone.

>They have no idea how women actually act under crisis, leading them to write characters that buckle under pressure and are incapable of being autonomous (which is probably why so many basement trolls genuinely believe women are actually incompetent).
Fuck off, feminist. Characters aren't supposed to be completely unrealistic.

PPG was targeted at little girls?

Yes, but it did so largely with sex appeal

No. Craig McCracken has said he wasn't making it for girls. He was making it for fun.

That pretty much disqualifies it as a "girly" show per the OP then right ?

>Was Powerpuff Girls from the first western "girlish" cartoon that also appealed to the male audience?

She-ra would like a word with you.

Why do people care what the show creator says? Do you know how many people work on a typical cartoon? Whatever the original vision was, it could easily have changed multiple times

It was made to sell to the female audience.

Sex appeal is subjective. Little girls with big eyes punching the shit out of things happens to be my fetish.

It's not just one persons word. When PPG was being shown on CN in its original run, they never pushed it especially on girls.

The toys might have been aimed at girls, but that's different.

OP is trying to say that PPG was the first western show to have a crossover fandom like MLP. It was not though because it was never anywhere near as intended-for-girls as MLP.

>The toys might have been aimed at girls, but that's different.
How? Shows are financed by toys. Whoever buys them is considered THE target audience.

>Characters aren't supposed to be completely unrealistic.
What does that even mean? I don't even know where to start.

I'm saying that competent women are rare, and fully competent women basically non-existent.

This is the dumbest thing I've read on this site all day and I was just on Sup Forums before coming here

user... you do know how old they are, right!?

At least watch a show with teen girls or something

Yes I know, and no thank you.

No JEM was.

I prefer the new progressive version desu

I still can't believe that design isn't a joke.

>OP is "that kid" who thought PPG was only for girls

why? it's an older, taller and bigger version of a PPG.

If you say so.

The number of open missile hatches in that shot should answer your question.

Only by her leg length.

This is what they should look as teenagers

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>It started the trend of forced feminist action girl cartoons
Are you really going to say this about the cartoon that had an episode dedicated to shitting on feminazis?

I really love Bubbles. Idk why it's so rare to find a character like her anymore

yeah, in a dream sequence.

Feminazis weren't even a thing when that episode was made

Something ain't right with Blossom's eyes.

crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2014/02/03/cartoon-networks-pulls-teenage-powerpuff-girls-comic-cover-following-criticism

This was a thing.
>Retailer criticized image illustration, saying “Are we seriously sexualizing pre-teen girls like perverted writing fan fiction writers on the internet?”
>The illustrator of this cover was an adult, asian woman

Why is goldman such a mysoginist?

>chink
there's the problem

I always thought that cover was from some Palcomix porn comic

Didn't notice the big "IDW" in the corner?

This makes me thankful for the small amount of non aged-up PPG material that exists.

how can I notice that with 3 hot babes in the cover art

You can bet your ass they were.

I don't even think they watched the movie

PPG was that good. CN had more comptent heads at the time to step back and let the workers make a product that could profit off toys and viewership.

PPG wasn't actually planned as a "toyetic" show when it was created, that only came later. Now the reboot is the exactly opposite.

Most of the What a Cartoon series weren't particularly toyetic to begin with, same with the Cartoon Cartoons that came later. It wasn't until after their success that marketing figured out how to turn them into toys and merch, essentially going back to the old days before the 80s.

Who the fuck doesn't think Ripley is a feminist icon my nigga, get out of Sup Forums sometime

Any character that isn't a mary sue like pic related can't be a feminist icon