We need to talk, 4chins. There's a thing happening. A big, bad thing. I...I think the internet might need you guys to save the day...
What do you folks think of this very bad situation aka COMICSGATE?
If you don't know what i'm talking about, the tl;dr is a whole cabal of SJW marvel writers and gaming journalists from bleeding cool were caught dead to rights gang stalking and using bleeding cool company resources to commit harmful crimes against others in the comics industry. It feels illegal, but even if it's not it definately feels wrong.
The reason they attacked is cause the people they don't like are not SJWs and pointed out marvels really bad sales.
also here's a link to an explanation of the bleeding cool part of the controversey around ethics in comics journalism.
Leo Perez
>Diversity & Comics
GET OUT
Aaron Ramirez
>There's a thing happening. A big, bad thing. No there isn't.
>I...I think the internet might need you guys to save the day... We're not ypur personal army.
Jaxon Lopez
go on
Gavin Price
Did gamergate ever stop? Don't the sjws still throw digs and shade at the people who were on the side of truth to this very day?
This probably wont end with splatto. So i'm calling an alarm now, I want to know what the community thinks and if anyone is really prepared for the coming sjw shitwaves?
Brody Scott
Sup Forums is sadly tumblr turf. If anything, they will sabotage any attempt at uncovering the truth. Forget about this place, just like God did.
Eli Howard
Sup Forums likes to troll and shitpost.
By bringing this up, anons here are going to start reporting and flagging all of D&C's videos out of spite, regardless of whether they agree with his message or not.
You fucked up.
Xavier Fisher
Go away.
Blake King
Nice try, Richard.
Jayden Bell
No. I am kill.
Sebastian Hill
Get a job
Henry Bailey
His name is ZACK
Mason Robinson
...
Jace Smith
Seriously. This place is full of niggers
Joseph Walker
Oh look, the Russians are trying to control more western media.
You got us with gamerthing and the election, wasn't that enough? Can't you go bother Britain for a while?
Evan King
Get off our board, shit for brains.
Jackson Gutierrez
>bleeding cool >ethics >journalism
Jaxson Fisher
Dude, I don't know how long you've been on Sup Forums, but everyone hates D&C and all those guys here. They won't give a shit about "Comicsgate" until it's too late, so just let this thread die. Try Reddit (although I hear they delete post about D&C).
Hudson Murphy
Pls be troll. Soros and Brock own your mind.
Antifa was the vegas shooter.
Sarkessian is a fraud and a huxter.
Quinn is a theiving shark.
Antos is a unscrupulous cheating liar.
Fuck your media matters manufactured narrative.
It has begun, and you cannot stop it.
Lincoln Smith
They were organizing to combat destructive, self-righteous assholes from attacking and harassing people within the industry.
Julian Jones
what's the underlying motive behind movements like GG and comicgate?
im all for free speech, but the tactics i've seen people in that movement use borderline on bullying (like on the gg subreddit) and a lot of people I've seen are also associated with Sup Forums and they don't really care about free speech, just attacking the opposite political spectrum until they are in power. However, I know several people who were practically green party 2 years ago who got involved in the movement and continually shit on the left. What is this movement about?
Benjamin Butler
>Sup Forums is sadly tumblr turf. No it isn’t. But then again it doesn’t matter what anyone says in a false flag thread like this. OP is clearly baiting.
Henry Reyes
>what's the underlying motive behind movements like GG and comicgate? the same thing as every other movement lulz to be had
Angel Morgan
When you block more people on twitter than buy your comic book, papa disney pays attention.
Don't worry this will be all presented to a certain group of execs.
Heather Antos, do you want to be responsible for the dissolution of Marvel?
And as for the gang stalkers. Cops will be coming for you.
Kevin Myers
>harmful crimes >Feels illegal user, if it's a crime, it's Illegal. If you can't tell, then it wasn't a crime and you should stop trying to get angry over youtube beefs.
There were some spam threads about this like a week ago? I haven't heard anything since.
Jaxon Young
>Sup Forums hates Trump Post proof. I’ll wait.
Robert Watson
>I...I think the internet might need you guys to save the day... >rich the leech >4chin plz halp? This is either a false flag or a genuine retard.
Christopher Rivera
Fuck off, D&C. Sup Forums doesn't give enough of a shit to emulate Gamergate for you.
Lincoln Sanchez
This is a better summary than I could ever post.
Ethan Ward
You sound like an offensive instagram account from 2014
Logan Jackson
The five eyes have made us all paranoid.
OP just wants to make sure the people know what is being done to their fellow humans, antisemites calling jews whose families died in the holocost - calling them Nazis.
Calling someone who isn't a Nazi a nazi just because you disagree with them is antisemitic and dishonors the dead.
Can the milkshake crew answer to that?
OP isn't falseflag. OP is concerned their comicbooks are being destryoed intentionally.
Ryan Williams
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Oliver Miller
aside from the escalation of some writers planning to start shit with him in order to goad him into violence at NYCC. didn't he more or less try to start shit with them first?
also nothing is gonna come from it since they guy is basically a living strawman.
Grayson Roberts
If OP isn't a falseflag they're dumber than hell, ESL-kun.
Daniel Gutierrez
>What is this movement about? Censoring media of Things We Don't Like (i.e. "SJWry" by accusing the Left of censorship.
Wyatt Morales
>What is this movement about? Which side are you talking about? If you mean the comic-creators themselves, they (Marvel) don't want Disney to find out sales are terrible and writers like Dan Slott, Mark Waid, and Tom Brevoort are blaming the fans for the low sales, calling them "racist, homophobic men who don't accept diversity". On the other side of the ring, tons of Youtubers are making videos calling out the Marvel (and other companies like IDW) writers for their actions and want to see these people fired by the Mouse so comics can stop pandering to a audience that doesn't even buy comics.
Christopher Reyes
Yes. pretty much.
Isaiah Collins
>aside from the escalation of some writers planning to start shit with him in order to goad him into violence at NYCC. didn't he more or less try to start shit with them first? It was a private facebook chat. Yeah they were bitching and they sounded really lame, but it was hardly calculated violence.
The dude's constant anti-trans stuff (whatever you personally think of that) means anyone he wants his criticism to mean something to, AKA Marvel because he's a Marvelfag through and through, are gonna find it too easy to dismiss and are never going to listen.
Gabriel Howard
Pro gamergaters pushed for responsible journalism. But as in all things in life, there are extremists, and there are simply dumb niggers who abuse opportunities for open discourse by trolling people and fucking shit up.
The anti gamergaters interpret this small amount of trolls as an attack from the whole pro side, and double up on their efforts, emboldened by the idea that everyone who disagrees with them is evil.
That’s what’s happening now in comics.
John Young
i support diversity & comics, but you can't try to get help here.
we don't do activism anymore, we are now just a bunch of narcissists.
Chase Adams
This. Even the boys at Sup Forums won't help.
Hunter Martinez
Yeah, he brags about tweeting and trolling them several times a day, and is outraged when people get upset with him
Nathan Stewart
I can't speak for anyone else, but all I wanted was for Game "Jornalists" to disclose the relationships they had with the people and companies they were writing about. Just a simple "I'm friends with this indie developer" when mentioning them in an article. That's literally all I wanted.
But instead it became such a shitshow.
Justin Gray
GG was initially driven by a combination of righteous indignation and a desire to participate in something that felt like it was 'happening'. I have no idea what sustained it for so long though, I guess people formed twitter communities they became attached to or something. Comigate and the other GG imitation movements are driven by the same righteous indignation, which they try to organize into 'movements' similar to GG for their pet issue. So far with no success because they haven't been able to recapture the specific circumstances that made GG go viral.
Ryan Reed
Desu the D&C guy is clearly in for the $$$ and to launch his own comics company over 'fixing' Marvel. He could after all just buy what he enjoys and not buy what he doesn't enjoy, like everyone else should.
It was disappointing seeing the extremists from the word go, you could just see where that shit was gonna end up.
Logan Clark
>By bringing this up, anons here are going to start reporting and flagging all of D&C's videos out of spite, regardless of whether they agree with his message or not.
Shut up faggot. Nobody on here is anything more than apathetic to D&C or his detractors. I don't know why anyone who comes to Sup Forums regularly would act like what you just said is based in any form of reality.
Generally people here, and this is a generalization hence the word usage, agree with him in theory but despise him in practice because he's over the top to the point of being wrong.
It's like Hannity or Bill Maher. They may have a good point here and there but they're assholes and a blowhards so it's tough to take their side in any conversation.
Dominic Johnson
then why is it a casual who's only doing it for a minimum wage trying to spur this?
Joseph Turner
Or maybe because games are more important than comics and other stuff?
Nathaniel Hughes
That's some amazing mental gymnastics. Do you do cognitive dissonance yoga?
Eli Price
>I am a retard, why isn't everyone retarded?
Josiah Cooper
People who post this are dumb or newfags. The Fappening had a massive impact on traffic for all of Sup Forums.
Jaxson Ramirez
maybe he can try cripplechan
James Sanders
THIS THIS THIS
Leo Cox
I'd also like to point out that the direct spike that is labeled gamergate coincides with august-september 2014. The Fappening timeframe.
Ryder Anderson
>didn't he more or less try to start shit with them first? Aside from simple name calling like “fake geek girl”, he never did anything as low as doxing, slandering or no-platforming. The professionals in the industry are abusing their power by retaliating. They should have just ignored him like any real company would.
Blake Perez
I can't even imagine how quickly a comic gate would fizzle. Nobody gives a fuck about comics and you people have no real issues to rally behind.
Adrian Wood
It's that and the fact he just outright steals stuff from here and goes about his campaign in a profiteering and generally disingenuous way. Plus there's been a pretty concentrated shitposting effort on like this #milkshakegate shit since before D&C was mentioned much here.
Nobody who actually wants comics wants this
David Moore
DELETE THIS FUCKING THREAD
Noah Hill
yup. shut it down goyim
Logan Lopez
>they (Marvel) don't want Disney to find out sales are terrible Disney doesn't give a shit about comoc sales, it already got the IPs to male movies, cartoon and other shit like that.
Jaxon Reed
>The dude's constant anti-trans stuff Stop making baseless claims. His beef is with Mags Masaggio being a poor attempt at transexuality, because he has a beef with Mags alone. Not all transsexuals.
Easton Brown
So basically if this D&C guy wants followers all he needs to do is leak nudes of the most famous celebrities in the world.
Kayden Garcia
Uh oh, somebody triggered the Drumpfy Wumpfy snowflake!
Wyatt Martin
this nigga
Joseph Brooks
I don't really give a shit about Diversity & Comics' "message" and I don't watch any of his videos. I just like downvoting them or reporting them (if I can be bothered) because I know if pisses you drumpfkins off lol
Luis Walker
Stop trying to support yourself. Faggot.
Daniel Taylor
Games having a much larger audience than comics is probably the biggest circumstance which they can't replicate. I think there's a bit more to it than that though. People took the 'gamers are dead' articles as both a personal insult and a confirmation of their suspicions, that's unlikely to happen again. There was also the presence of a large number of people who had heard stories about shit the internet (especially Sup Forums) had achieved in the past but who hadn't been around to experience it themselves. So you had a lot of people really eager to participate in making change happen, with little cynicism about the process. At least that's what I saw on Sup Forums, idk about places like tumblr/reddit etc.
Carson Kelly
>Or atleast comment? Also don't forget to like and subscribe.
William Hughes
>it already got the IPs to male movies, cartoon and other shit like that. Yes, but what happens when superhero movies, cartoons, and TV shows aren't popular anymore? Disney is gonna start looking at the comic division where it all started and notice shit going on. The Marvel people caught up this drama are trying to delay the "house cleaning" that they know is coming.
Eli Martin
Because he's an outrage fag who wants to get in the big leagues.
Asher Kelly
I was linked to a video on here where he said he should refer to MTF trans as he because otherwise he would be contributing to their mental illness and they would kill themselves.
Again, regardless of your thoughts on the issue that makes real criticism (AKA criticism of the work, not the author) way too easy to dismiss. It looks like he's deleted that vid now though so maybe he got a clue.
Gavin Wright
How?
Lucas Gutierrez
D&c is a whiny twat and gang stalking isn't real, fuck off
Christopher Stewart
>but it was hardly calculated violence. it sounded like they're plan was to basically make him throw the first punch so he could get kicked out of the convention
not that it matters. like i said i'd be suprised if anything is gonna come from it.
Jace Smith
...
Jaxon Wood
>it sounded like they're plan was to basically make him throw the first punch so he could get kicked out of the convention They wanted someone (not them since they're too chicken) to follow him around and bother him to the point where "they trigger his PTSD" and he throws the first punch.
Justin Edwards
Marlel and other shits were doing great at going downhill with the sales but with this jackass and his friends now they have a face for people who criticize/don't buy their stuff. Though it is hilarious that people at Marvel are so buttblasted about youtube channels who don't suck their nuts.
Charles Barnes
>Aside from simple name calling like “fake geek girl” >using that insult unironically are we even sure this guy is real and not just a character someone is playing? the more i hear about him the more i'm convinced he's the later.
Michael Lee
>Yes, but what happens when superhero movies, cartoons, and TV shows aren't popular anymore?
BAHAJAHHAHAHAAAAAAA
Marvel Comics haven't been profitable since, like, the 80s. Licensing and merchandise has been how its been profitable.
So long as the comics house pumps out a new Spiderman costume they can slap on an action figure, or a character they can hand off to more competent screenwriters, they literally don't care.
If anything, they're happy all the diversity stuff is getting them good press.
Jackson Myers
literally, 100 percent false. almost every part of it. stop trying to bait people you don't know.
the user I responded to was smarmily asking for the same thing OP wanted just from the opposite point of view.
Which, if you agree with the post you linked as well as me, you would find detestable. A trolling campaign (those don't exist anymore. For Free.) would only serve to strengthen his "case" and "supoort".
Apathy is the best policy to both the faggot screaming about the milkshakes and the faggots buying the milkshakes and taking pictures of them. Both sides are detestable. First person to make the obvious recent news reference to that statement deserves a fucking ban.
Julian Rivera
Again with the drumfpkin suggestion. Honestly ban these trolling fucks. It's like calling me purple. It has no basis in reality.
You're just down voting someone to be a bitch. There's no cause to it so don't invent one.
Leo Parker
Sup Forums is not your personal army
hang yourself
Colton Jones
I'm too cool and jaded to care about the comics industry jumping off a sales cliff.
Ryder Peterson
No, Sup Forums is tumblr army
Nathaniel Miller
Oh, shit! I guess I better do everything you say now just to prove that's not true!
Easton King
>see D&C threads >wonder what it's about >visit his channel and see a review of a comic I read and I liked, "Dastardly and Muttley" >he doesn't understand it >"it's dumb cause there's a dog on the cover" >"I hate dogs" >has an autistic spergout and throws the comic across the room I don't get it. Why does this retard has fans? Redpill me on D&C.
Isaac Green
Lol, stop pretending you aren't
Carson Morales
>Just a simple "I'm friends with this indie developer" when mentioning them in an article. That's literally all I wanted.
No it wasn't. You were upset because a game wasn't about waifus or swords.
Jace Bell
That's actually a good reason to get upset
Ayden Lopez
Nobody watches the reviews (except the America ones), they just in it for the drama.
Jaxson James
that sounds worse than his superman review.
Wyatt Cruz
He says the things that people already want to hear, and have probably already seen in Sup Forums threads. He seems to lack a basic understanding of some characters and their traits, which is very evident in his Deathstroke review
Kevin Morgan
They can relate to him
Luis Perry
>eceleb hang yourself
William Gomez
>He could after all just buy what he enjoys and not buy what he doesn't enjoy, like everyone else should. That doesn’t solve the problem though.