Can someone remind me why this is the worst episode? The Mad Max ripoff was way worse IMHO

Can someone remind me why this is the worst episode? The Mad Max ripoff was way worse IMHO

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Of all the heroes to try and shit on for being too idealistic and fake, why Guardians of the Galaxy?
They're barely heroes, more like anti-heroes. They steal, they lie, they cheat and they're at odds with the galactic police constantly.

Seemed like it was really desperate to be topical, and also not very funny in the process.

The episode with one of the very few trurly well-fleshed out alternate realities is bad?

Give me a fucking break.

Vanillafags got triggered

>vanillafags
What?

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Worst episode of the season (and the entire show) was "The ABC's of Beth", easily. It was everything wrong with this season distilled into one episode.

It's funny, though, because "The Rickturian Mortydate" was the next episode and was such a good episode and a welcome return to form after such an up-and-down season.

Nah just boring. No desire to rewatch it. At least Vindicators has an interesting arc, doesn't really matter to me what cape team they're shitting on. It's like the President - seems more a spoof of the trope itself rather than very specific characters.

But I didn't see the interviews or whatever so I don't know why the writers think what they do.

m8, they weren't ripping on the GotG

>They're barely heroes, more like anti-heroes. They steal, they lie, they cheat and they're at odds with the galactic police constantly.
This.
If anything, Rick would totally be down with the GotG.

Now that the shitstorm has died down, not ashamed to admit I liked the episode. The A story was just plain fun. Was it the best season finale? Not really, but it certainly set a good stage for S4.

It was basically GotG with the Avengers mixed in.
The leader of the vindicators even kind of looks like Chris Pratt.

What exactly was wrong with the ABCs of Beth?
It more or less set the stage for the season finale.

I don't think they were any specific superhero team. Vance is Captain America, Phantom Train is Green Lantern, Supernova is probably closest to Starfire, or a gender-swapped Silver Surfer, and Million Ants is I guess a Martian Manhunter type? Crocubot was just kind of there.

>get shit on by Rick
>have to clean up shitty Rick
>only battle scene is shooting down a rocket-powered half-corpse
>finally takes initiative and dies instantly

Crocubot is saddest character. Seems like a nice guy too...

>Screams about superheroes not being unique enough amongst eachother
>The Hulk, Venom, and Thor exist

That's kinda all it did. The process by which Beth comes to her conclusion at the end of the episode is played fast and loose, but with few enough jokes to make it feel slow.

In light of the finale, my personal opinion of it has improved, I see what they were going for, but it's sloppy in terms of episode structure.

What's worse is that the thing he took initiative in he had no way of knowing. Without Morty there they would have been fucked no matter what

I've never seen Guardians of the Galaxy and thought the episode was pretty great. One of the top 3 this season for sure.

That's what happens when you fall in a vat of redundancy. He looks so proud of his answer.

>The leader of the vindicators even kind of looks like Chris Pratt.
Every fucking hollywood jamoke in his middle 20s/30s look like Chris pratt for god's sake.

It tried to be both a super hero deconstruction and a gore porn parody at the same time, which left the episode feeling unfocused. Add in the pastiche nature of cape deconstructions and the unsatisfying ending, and it's not that good.

I say we have 9 more rick and morty threads.

I'm actually glad that they didn't go the "Surprise it's evil Morty!" route. One episode isn't enough time for that, it'd either be resolved too quickly or end on yet another cliffhanger.

It seemed like Harmon was trying to prove something about Superheroes being bad people with flaws and secrets, as if they were REAL people.

Not really sure what the point of it was, considering superheroes are fictional and only have the flaws their creators give them. Maybe it was all to show that Rick is a bad person. That'd be a new and interesting twist.

It was just an excuse to show that Morty is A) getting very disillusioned with Rick and B) has become much smarter than he looks.

The only vindicator that genuinely deserved to be brought to justice was the one they let off scot-free.

This episode felt like a rant on Harmontown where he doesn't really have a point, he just sort of spouts some vaguely cynical nonsense about something that he doesn't like because he's from a generation that trained itself to be vaguely cynical about everything with no real point.

I liked emos better when they weren't trying to convince themselves that they're only cynical assholes because they're smarter than everyone else.

pickle rick was the worst of the season. rickmansing the stone was only slightly better. vindicator was just neutral. rickshaw rickdemption and ricklantis mixup where the 2 best.

ABCs of Beth was more of Beth being Beth, which isn't entertaining; it's annoying. I liked the family dynamic in the first two seasons because Beth and Jerry balanced each other out. Separately, they slow the show down and feel like a waste of time because they're very irritating archetypes when alone.

The "too smart to be happy" meme is tiresome and unfortunately, this season was packed with it.

I found the joke at the end with it not being about Morty hilarious. His face was priceless.

I also liked the powerset of the heroes.

It felt rushed to me. Even as gruesome as the Vindicator deaths were, I didn't give a shit about them. And it was only moderately funny too.

Isn't this the episode that Dan explicitly called "the worst episode of Rick and Morty"

It was one of the biggest examples of this season making Rick too ultracompetant. He defeated the universe's greatest evil and came up with an elaborate trap that killed all but one of the universe's greatest heroes.

Without breaking a sweat.

All while so drunk he diahreead all over himself and forgot the whole night.

And the critique of modern superhero media being way too dark and cynical just fell flat because the character/show pointing it out is way more dark and cynical than 99% of capeshit.

Really? I viewed the superhero critique being "they're vapid and cheery, and ultimately don't have much stakes" Rick basically reinjected stakes and in doing so revealed some worseness. Rick was solidly in the wrong the whole way through.

I dunno, the big takeaway I got from the ep was "Marvel Movies suck, but being the guy that points out why they suck just to be smart sucks worse."

Stop trying to pin it down and accept it was just a hero parody. People keep trying to say "it was clearly THIS team" but theg were a parody of general hero cliches which was part of why Rick called them interchangable in that puzzle.

I'm mad about Crocubot.

Why?

Legit wondering.

Nah if that was the case then they wouldn't have made it a point to mention that several heroes died on the Vindicators' previous mission.

I like reptiles. And he wasn't a jerk.

They absolutely should've had a Vindicators 1 for setup.

He wasn't a jerk, but if he survived, Supernova might have taken him out, just because he would carelessly talk about the atrocity of Dorian 5 (exposing them as murderers).

there are infinite ricks.

why didn't they just put the citadel in one universe and pile all the Ricks and Mortys into that universe. then they could have taken it over. establishing the Council of Ricks are the supreme force in that universe. getting rid of the Galactic Federation. Solving every problem everywhere nearly instantly.

it is the only logical thing for Ricks to do. since they think they're superior to everything but themselves, even other ricks. ricks hate anything that tries to elevate themselves up and maybe compare to rick.

Too easy. They'd get bored super quick and spread out to other universes again.

Him dying at all is what makes me sad.

I want to see Supernova hook up with Jerry's alien ex-girlfriend.

That's retarded. Just because they're a cosmic super hero team that doesn't mean they're a guardians rip.

Because Rick is lazy, flawed, and has a lot of attachments.
If he was simply logical then he'd just replace all of the important people in his life with controllable clones and would just solve all his problems with ridiculous tech instead of always going hands on.

Why was best boy punished so terribly

Eh... that's struck me as well more reasons why Rick was a dick. they wanted so little to do with rick that they willingly risked their own people to do the whole Die heroically thing.

Nah. That would be the last 2 Beth Episodes.

Wasn't Season 3 written like a year ago?

It was an overly edgy and painfully unaware attempt to prove that Rick as a character is deeper than every superhero character despite the fact that he suffers from almost the exact same bland character writing that makes cape movies so generic.

For me it was the worst of the season because it was so smug. Rick and Morty is best when its being a fun, kooky, scifi adventure series with a side of black comedy. Trying to claim that its so much smarter than the average cape flick reeks of self importance and delusion. Not to mention its actual observations about the superhero genre are shallow and unoriginal.

This.

The biggest irony about Rick's entire life is that despite claiming everything in the universe is dumb and he is the smartest man in the universe, deep down he still needs those "dumb" people to give his life any meaning.

How he immediately grows bored when he beats the Devil? How despite his dating being entirely self-indulgent with Unity, he is still a mess when she leaves him?

the season finale even shows this more. As, despite Rick perfectly capable of just jumping from one universe to another (Which we have even seen before) he still reluctantly staying, making peace with the President in disguise, because he is his own worst enemy.

Where does everyone keep getting this idea that it was supposed to be some sort of commentary on the cape genre? The vindicators never really felt like the point of the episode, they were just set pieces in a story about Rick getting carried away with a grudge due to jealousy over Morty looking up to someone other than him. Superheroes being kind of dicks was just a part of the setting, not that different from stories like Venture Bros or Empowered.

There was a full episode of community in season 6 that went after guardians of the galaxy. It seems like he just has an ax to grind with at movie. It's been a while, but if memory is correct the whole point of the episode was just saying all you need is a big star and editing and any bad movie can be good.

>kept expecting Ghost Train to actually summon a ghost train to fuck shit up
>never happened

If you're not looking for any meaning, I think the premise is just a funny one. The show is constantly one-upping itself by making Rick out to be this unstoppable force. Why not show him beat up a bunch of superheroes? But that's too straightforward so the twist is that he kills them all accidentally while drunk. There, that's all you need for a cartoon. No need to justify it with any specific messages about whether anyone involved likes or hates the Avengers or whatever.

But Renegade Star Soldier man is without a doubt a fusion of Star-Lord and Iron Man.

This. It was also fun that despite being this unstoppable force, the whole situation makes Rick look really dumb and petty and Morty spends the whole episode shitting on him.

The morty arm side story was more interesting than the entire vindicators story. Both aren't amazing episodes but they're far from offensive. My problem with the season as a whole is while nothing is terrible, nothing is great either. It was very safe.

What I got out of this episode is that Rick is amoral sociopath who kills people for fun and suffers zero consequences for it. If I wanted that sort of thing I'd be reading Irredeemable.

Just shows Rick turning into a sitcom character. He only exists for violence porn and nihilistic 'humor' for edgy twenty somethings, it's similar to what happened to the Griffins but more rapid. Extremely rapid, just three seasons in and he's getting simplified.

>Where does everyone keep getting this idea that it was supposed to be some sort of commentary on the cape genre?
Because it was full of stuff that was explicitly meta commentary on superheroes

>Pointing out Morty's the dumb kid sidekick fanboy
>Killing off minority heroes in a crossover event
>The point of Rick's first game was to say all the superheroes are generic
>The structure of the teamup is specifically riffing off the MCU Avengers type crossover
>Rick: And why your pretentious, poorly-written, high-budget friends back there can eat a double-decker shit sandwich.

It wasn't that bad. The finale was terrible though.

I thought Super Nova was Dr. Manhattan.

I'm not aware of any symbiotic cape-shit characters who existed before Venom.

And I think Hulk was pretty unique for his time.

Thor is clearly not unique, just a creative re-imagining of Norse Mythology.

He summoned to enter the castle.

It actualy looked cool, I wouldnt mind seeing all the Vindicators in action, there were some interesting powersets there, I liked the guy made of ants.

It's not even the first time they are doing it. They were snarking at the purge and I am pretty sure there was another "movie" episode at some point

>Million Ants, who just got done murdering someone, tries to talk his girlfriend out of killing rick and morty

that made no sense.

Also I would have rather wanted to see drunk Rick taking down WorldEnder instead of it all happening offscreen.

Nigga, they were different cases and he reacted accordingly.

Ironic seeing GotG 1 and 2 have more love put into the movie than anything Harmon will ever try in his life.

Morty was Awesome in this episode. that was atleast one of the highlights.

>The chain is also releasing 1,000 limited edition commemorative screen-printed posters to go along with each sauce, also to be available on Oct. 7 at participating locations.

GUYS MCDONALDS IS BEING BACK THE SCHZEAUN SAUCE, FOR ONE DAY ONLY JEEZE RICK, AND IT COMES WITH A FREE P-P-POSTER.

GotG are honestly not that great. People hyping it up like a best movies in the world and they are not.

>Not a single "powerful" episode on the level of rick and morty cronoberging everything and Morty having to deal with the fact nothing matters or Rick litteraly attempting to kill himself after he loses one of the only things in life that made him happy
>Dan hinted that Evil Morty would be in the season finale with his hangout with MattPatt yet nothing came of it
>No silly SJW shit casualy mentioned to make the community discuss if the writers actually believe that shit or not

Bit disappointed this season.

>>No silly SJW shit casual
Israel?

You know, I could take your comment more seriously if it wasn't written like you were one of those indonesian DC fans.

"South Park did it 4 years ago."
"Wow they're fast."
"Yeah or we're SLOW."

That's my issue, the points the ep made have been done better other places way earlier. I was just bored.

You are completely right. I fucked up and wrote it horribly. What is wrong with me today?

The whole "lol superheros sure are dumb right?" is like 20 years too late.

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;)

>Universes greatest heros
Feat wise the President of the United States could kick there asses

That makes perfect sense because he is Keith David

If the president can spy on them with his satellite, wouldn't he pretty much instantly realize that Fly Fishing Rick is just regular Rick? Surely he wouldn't just take that flimsy cover story at face value like that?

I actually forgot this episode exists, I don't think there was anything remarkable about it.

I really liked it, seems like capeshit fans got butthurt imagining it is a critic to them when it clearly isn't.

Just love episodes that show Rick being way more powerful than everyone.

>destroys the universe's most powerful being while very drunk

I would think some of the jokes would have specifically appealed to the capeshit fans here. Like the comment on the diversity of the team, or the [unsolicited opinions on Israel???]

>JUST LIKE SAWWWWWWWW

Best line of the episode

For real I don't know why Harmon shit on this episode. It was at least entertaining, which is more than I can say for Rickmancing the Stone or ABCs of Beth.

Last episode was near the middle in terms of S3 quality

Exactly. Vindicators was boring af because you have to slog through an unfunny episode full of characters that end up dying and no one caring to get to the end punchline of noob noob and a random logic party.

Yeah that "too smart to be happy" message got tiring this season. Almost every episode had some form of it shoved in. The kicker is that it's not funny.

I still don't understand what the vindicators actually meant. Like are we supposed to be happy they died? Are we supposed to get some deep commentary about superheroes from their 2 mins of screen time doing nothing?

Rick really felt flanderized this season.

youtube.com/watch?v=UdQWTbLWYxI

dem titties tho

ah shit, she got me

the purpose of this season was to knock rick of the pedestal the audience and the people around him had put him on. because "nothing matters" includes Rick himself, and some people forgot that.

Dan Harmon hates superheroes, and thinks we should too.

He did the same shit in Community.

That was still kind of childish.
"You like superheroes? Here, they are all dead!"
South Park does this stuff all the time and it's not very funny or subtle or smart

Honestly I just want to see Supernova hook up with the 3-boob chick and regain her sanity.