Wtf I love communism now

Wtf I love communism now

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>Still, the issue was not yet settled. In 1932-33, Stalin's use of force against peasant resistance to collectivization led to a man-made famine in some regions s of the Soviet Union. It was worst in the Kuban and in Ukraine, which had the best soil in the USSR. Indeed, Ukraine was the traditional breadbasket of Russia..To break resistance in these regions, Stalin did not allow any food to be brought in, while he exported grain abroad. Also, every bit of grain was taken from the peasants, who were left to starve. People were shot for "stealing" grain. Aside from those who starved to death, some 4 million Ukrainians were deported to labor camps in Siberia or to other forced labor, e.g. the building of the White Sea Canal. Historians estimate that 4- 7 million Ukrainians died as a result of Stalin's policy.

Communism is the ideal system, but it can only work in a small community.
Divine/alien intervention would be required to make communism work properly for a whole country. Reason is ugly manlets need money/power to get laid and therefore.corrupt the system

Capitalism is full of contradictions.

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Good luck OP you fucking degenerate

>try to establish socialist society
>get cucked by every country on the planet
>"see! socialism doesn't work!!!!"

why are capitalists so afraid of any little shit country becoming socialist if its such a massive failure?

Venezuela

>fuck the world capitalist market
>waaaaahhhh why cant be part of the world capitalist market

Crony capitalism and corporatism in retail is a disease/legal theft.

Buy to your local kolkhoze farm. Support your peasants.

Prove me wrong.

This. Only voluntary entrants into a communist society can properly maintain it with real communist values. When it grows in population, the same old power struggles that have occurred for the past 10,000 years in every human tribe on the planet will tear it apart.

since when did socialism mean not trading or being friendly with other nations? it has nothing to do with that and everything to do with big wealthy business interests mad that the property they bought for nickles was given back to the people of the country, so they call their hounds in the capitalists' government

No. The world capitalist market needs to be replaced by world socialism, where production is adjusted to meet human need, not private profit.

youtube.com/watch?v=GPKH4GHiihg

Stores and restaurants used to give out old food before or things past their sell by date. But some (((((opportunists)))) decided it was ok to sue the stores or companies that did this when some homeless person got sick. It ruined the whole system. now major chains have rules in place against giving food out now.

how old are you?

>high end bottled water in the biggest retail store in Paris.

How is this legal ? They are more expansive than a gallon of gas.

Seize the mean of prod-yada yada

does it matter?

>liberals and associated idiots want to create a system that tends to the feelings of all instead of one that will persist

Should they even be allowed to vote? Why?

Stop being poor, stop being entitled and capitalism won't seem so bad.

>capitalism is full of contradictions
Such as...?

GODSPEED GET DOLPHIN

>make communism work for a whole country

You obviously do not understand what "communism" is, given that you don't seem to even know the basic definition entails the abolition of states and a unified, global or near-global communist society

Not shilling pro-communism, just pointing out you fail at even a basic understanding of the subject

By work, we mean operate without actively slaughtering its people.
Capitalism causes death by negligence, Socialism eats away at the host organism.

>libertarian socialism
What

We've been over this. Private property or no property.

GODSPEED GET DOLPHIN

Am I my brother's keeper?

The waste in society and production, the necessity of maximising the hours worked and minimising pay despite advocating consumerism, destroying the planet for short term profit, the requirement for endless expansion and growth in a finite planet....

youtube.com/watch?v=Cnj3dObd6do

>requirement for endless expansion and growth in a finite planet
That has nothing to do with capitalism but the fact that population is constantly increasing.

>have 10 nigger kids you can't keep alive
>they all die
>it's non-jewish white and east asian peoples' fault for not cucking their own people and feeding niggers for free with no benefit in return whatsoever

Those are flaws, not contradictions.

>18 million die of poverty related causes each year
Yeah in fucking Africa where they're too dumb to plant crops. How many people starved in Britain or America?

And on that note, how many people starved in the USSR or Maoist China?

>ITT:

I used to see images like this and think something like
>yeah, you tell 'em
but now I see it and I have nothing but disdain for the thieving scum

I was happier back then

what is the human need?
is Sup Forums a need? is your TV a need? is soccer a need? are books, REALLY, a "need" or entertainment? deodorant? different styles of glasses?

fuck off with this bullshit no one wants to live according to what an arrogant piece of shit liberal arts students thinks is a need.

This is why Jewish Law is better than either Capitalism OR Communism (or Nat.Soc. for that matter).

Fuck off kike

The red pill is a harder pill to swallow than to just to live with a blue pill

this has nothing to do with capitalism and everything to do with human nature making immature and unfounded decisions.

also, I've always loved this part of commie double-think:

>capitalism works for most, but not everyone
>therefore we must try a system that has never worked for anyone

Nowhere near as many as capitalism has starved

Even if the population was stagnant the same thing would happen. The laws of capital demand constant growth.

There are many kinds. Certainly, everyone should have access to housing, clothing, food, education, healthcare, transportation, decent employment, culture, media, arts, recreation, leisure. Society determines what it needs are. The aim should be the abolition of the wages system and state.

>Allende
nice try there buddy!

Communism has worked for plenty of people, in the times it has existed before capitalists and reactionaries crushed it. The idea that it doesn't work is a fantasy and bourgeois wishful thinking. Go ask the people in Rojava. Fighting ISIS and building socialism

wtf i love capitalism now

So don't buy it.

>capitalism
>in 1492
>slavery even remotely compatible with capitalism (voluntary trade of goods and services between individuals)

neck yourself

>an entire warehouse of food

that someone paid for and they bought in bulk so they could reduce the price to the consumer because the "warehouse" down the road is selling shit super cheap.

kek

/thread

>voluntary

Only for the capitalists and property owners. It's wage slavery for the rest.

Then let's gas the manlets. Problem solved.

>Extermination of the indigenous Americans
>Everything that wasn't socialism was communism

>The individual is responsible for their own livelihood

Seems fine to me

now thats zesty

are you intentionally being thick, or are you purposefully creating excuses for a failed system to exercise your anti-establishment angst?

at the very least, we can agree selfishness and self-centredness drives people to do things, correct?

Communism kills creativity, innovation and ingenuity because there are no external (or even intrinsic) motivations for doing so. Everything belongs to the state, freedom is at a whim, you are only what the state says you are. There is no hope of profit or material gain, so why bother being creative, or artistic, or inventive?

Also you're conflating communism and socialism.

workers are free to own the workplace, cooperatives aren't illegal
it just so happens that democracy in the workplace is a failure, decision-making can't be such a slow bureaucratic process, the productivity is lower so the income generated doesn't make it worth it.

because communism is a mental illness, a sickness that must be eradicated

National socialism is the only socialism that works

Name one person in the US who has involuntarily starved to death.

How do you think capitalism became established in Americas? The natives had no concept of private property, wages or capital. The land was cleared for capitalism. Societies develop at different rates but the same pattern repeats. The peasants in pre-industrial England were furious at the enclosure of land.

you're thinking of capitalism

>stealing food is against the law

Go to a soup kitchen to get food
Get on government welfare to get food
Bumrush the local supermarket and beg them for the food they throw out nearly everyday
Dig it out of the trash where you're bound to find some good shit

If you have to steal food because you're starving, it just means you're retarded. End this dumb kikemunnism meme already

>national conquests
>fucking pre-industrial revolution conquests
>because of capitalism
Just off yourself. And by the way, I am proud millions of shitskins around the world died while we prospered.

Follow Goebbels my man

This, 2bh.

No one in America is starving. People may be little hungry, but no one is starving.

If wage slavery is a thing, it's in Cuba.

Cubans are born in a place and condemned to work for the same boss for the rest of their lives.
And if they try to escape they're declared a criminals and punished by law.

You, on the other hand, are free to work for whoever you want, even yourself.

when you're done waiting in line for your toilet paper ration we can meet at Hooters and discuss

Whether you care or not is irrelevant. Material conditions and society will move on with or without your pride and misplaced racism.

People that don't understand this are so short sighted and retarded.

It's like arguing nature would be perfect if nothing ever died. Then you just have a bunch of shitty failures walking around that shouldn't exist.

People should be allowed to fail and and fucking die off. It's the only way we get better you fucking lazy cunts.

>Hey Adolf, whatcha doing?
>National Socialism.

>nu uhn, you are

lowest form of dialogue includes bait and switch

you're gravely mistaken, as any history book will tell you.

to insinuate that capitalism, that is, a system that perpetuates/necessitates infinite growth in a finite world that largely follows supply and demand, was behind the settling of the new world, is nonsense.

That was mercantilism, which was alive and thriving well into the 19th c, when nation states became "sentiment" (post-congress of vienna) and realised a buck could be made if it weren't for things like empire and god and country getting in the way of profit.

The shift to a "capitalist" system, in any sense of the word, happened in the last 160-170 years

Metisfag here. A large portion of them became traders for the french and became extremely wealthy in the process when just 15 years ago they were killing each other over deer meat.

Capitalism was never the "downfall" of first nations people. It was the fact that they were not a unified force and were fighting constantly within themselves and a technologically superior foe.

As time went on, capitalism was the only thing that separated them between themselves and tribal warfare that plagued the continent for hundreds of years.

>Communism is the ideal system, but it can only work in a small community
Jamestown.

>mercantilism
that's the word I was looking for, I'm not sure why I said capitalism.

SEIZE THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION MY SOVIET BROTHERS

Do you agree that capitalism is the sole reason we enjoy the quality of life we have today?

The keyboard you are typing with, the applied use of electricity that powers it, the reason you aren't hungry right now.

Yes I'll take personal law for 600 alec

> You need to borrow money to keep your government running
> You make the people who lend you money mad and threaten to stop paying your debts
> They stop lending you money because why the hell would they trust you
> waaaahaaaa muh evil capitalist conspiracy

Protip: if you like eating, stop biting the hand that feeds. Or stop borrowing money you don't have but apparently austerity is right wing lol

>free helicopter rides 2017

>steal food
>go to jail
>get free food

I dont see the problem here

>tfw jail is real communism
got me thinkin

yeah if i had to choose between prison and starving to death, i don't think i'd need too much time to decide

google.com/search?q=venezuela rationing food

I'm a lifter, i don't go down the pop/chip isle.

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Yes. And so would Karl Marx. Capitalism is a necessary and inevitable part of social development. But it is an incomplete, injust and ultimately doomed system, much like feudalism.

Things that never happened: the web comic

aljazeera.com/news/2016/07/thousands-venezuelans-pour-colombia-buy-food-160711033954843.html

>inb4 it's capitalism's fault that chavez promoted land reforms and took the agriculture away from competent businessmen and put it in the hands of lazy political activists who understand fuckall about it and believe in ecological bullshit

I don't defend Cuba. I'm not a Castroist. The Cuban state has just replaced the capitalists.

Self employment under capitalism is also incredibly precarious and often unwanted. It's increased in Britain greatly but their wages have fallen 10% in real terms. It's a forced choice.

People can't really choose where or what to work as under capitalism. So many jobs could be automated or reduced, and we have millions of unemployed people, kept around to depress wages.

Look any of them up, then get back to me. Rojava is going on right this fucking second

>people who succeed should have that success robbed from them because someone else is not succeeding
Why? Why should I be punished for you being a loser?

Here you go.

Socialism is a foolish attempt to minimize human suffering, and that is why it is a doomed system. As long as a human with a stomach exists, world hunger will exist. But in the process of trying to make 100% of people employed, fed, literate etc. the system neglects to make progress because only the people that are able to rise above others spearhead human progress and drive/lead civilization forward. Capitalism screws some people over sometimes, but that's fine. It doesent mean it's doomed.

The capitalists could make you a loser at a drop of their hat. Just like everyone else.

This is how the grocery stores look under communism.

No, the Cuban state instituted SLAVERY.

You're born in Cuba, you must work for the cuban government otherwise you're a criminal. This is slavery.
I can pack my things up and go to Canada right now and find a job there, wouldn't be breaking any of my own country's law. I can say "I quit" to my employer and decide to work for his competitor if he has a better offer.
No such right or freedom Cubans have.

SEETHING
Stay mad Manlet Nerds

wtf i love stealing now

I'm pretty sure that if you took that 'Total Killed' and divided it by the number of years since 1492, the death toll per year would still be lower than that of Communism since Marx's Manifesto and Das Kapital in the 1800's

That's just bullshit left over from Napoleon's clean water trope. How many times is that water distilled anyway?

They should start by giving out their money to poor. Oh wait, they don't generate income. What a surprise.