Which Mexican party is the least harmful?

Can Mexico-user explain the political situation in Mexico right now?

I've looked at the four main parties, and it seems like PRD, despite espousing some SJW shit, is the least cancerous of the parties that actually has a change at presidency.

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Is shit. PRD is the shittiest of them all. The other two are pretty shit too tho. We need a coup.

PRD is the fucking cradle if the SJW infection in our country

also corrupt as fuck. the debacle in Guerrero about the massacred students and massive police-narco collusion? a PRD state

>PRD
Yeah nope

PRD, MORENA, PRI and pretty much everything else is fucking shit
The "lesser evil" would be PAN, but nowadays they're pandering really hard to gays and womyn

We are fucked, as always

All of them
They{re all corrupt socialists, parties should not receive funds from the government (us), that{s the most retarded I shit ever

the based San Blas mayor will save our country

this is the man in action:

youtube.com/watch?v=n47RDbSJlpA

>claim to stole funds from the treasury
>gets elected again
there's no hope for this place

PRD is left
PRI is Centralist
PAN is right wing
They are all shit. PRI is probably the most corrupt. PAN might be the better option.

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I sure love higher taxes and more government

They are all shit anyways.

Beaner here!

The PRI is the equivalent of 23x the cancer (clinton) foundation, PRD is a bunch of comunist or socialist jackasses and the PAN is the least pendejo of all 3. PAN was tryin to make things a bit better for mexico (A tiny bit, still tryin to fuck us over, but not that much). Calderon wanted to put a stop to the narc but he bit much more than what he could chew,

actually salinas did some things right, he took the government out of business it had nothing to do, to this year the mexican government even had a sugar factory
we were full venezuela

they are all trash. They are all corrupt, and they all will escalate the shit situation in Mexico to ensure they get a bigger cut than the other political parties.

Felipe Calderon didn't start the drug war because he was an honest man.

>Calderon wanted to put a stop to the narc but he bit much more than what he could chew,

Analogy: he tried to get rid of a wasp plague by kicking their nest

whatever they intended to do, left the country ripe for PRI to come back

The other ones like the "Verde Ecologista", "Partido del trabajo" and "Convergencia" are just suck puppets to get the PRI more votes.

PRI is the reason mexico is all fucked up, they are with the narcs (and are practically a mob) and can get away with murder and stealing all the cash they want.

Agreed to that sir, IMHO Calderon was too naive, and didnt know what was happening.

But i dont know, maybe he was a piece of shit working with the mob.

The only mexicans i trust are my closes friends, (bear in mind im FOR EVER ALONE).

the problem was the way he did it

gubmint-run, taxpayer-built enterprises got sold to this friends under extremely shady, closed doors deals

this basically meant that his friends became all millionaires

THE PROBLEM IS THEM.

Nothing good ever came out of the PRI, its like a polished turd, THE PRI IS SHIT.

Thank god i never had access to guns when i was a child down in mexico, cus if i did, i would of blown the PRI to kingdom come.

>prd the worst
>not Morena

Chairo pls


No coup or change of government will change the people unless Hitler himself reincarnates into a mexican and changes mexican society as we know it.

Mexicans, especially the ones in america seem very proud to be mexican.
But it is a misguided and naive pride.
They are NOT patriotic.
When they say they have pride of being mexican, they have pride in being themselves, as in their person or race.
They have NO PRIDE in their country or government.

There are almost no mexican Patriots left.

Most mexicans do not have any standards for their society or law.

No party can fix a culture unless you go full Nazi or commie or something similair.

And even then it probably won't work out.
Mexico as a society collapsed decades ago.

That is what I thought. PRI controls the media mainly Televisa.

I agree with this.

Let me expand and give a few examples.
In Mexico, most cities are littered with trash.
Roads and sidewalks are full of wrappers and animal feces from stray animals.
Any big city in the world has these same problems, but not to the extent that countries like mexico have.

If you fly in from a first world country and see this, you would think to yourself, man, why doesn't the city government do something about this?

You would assume that the city officials are not putting enough money into cleaning, and you'd only be partly right.

The government indeed falters in its duties.
But the other part of this problem has little to with the government and more with the people.

They simply don't care.
They throw their trash onto the floor, even if a receptacle is a few short paces away.
They let their animals wander or even abandon them in the streets and never pick up after them.

If they are in a hurry they dump things in lots and sidewalks.

They leave dead pets in plastic bags in the streets and simply have no pride in their neighborhoods.

As long as there isn't a hugely distracting mess RIGHT in front of their own homes, who cares if they have corpses and waste 2 blocks down from them?

People pass by places and never pick up after themselves or even seem to care how their cities look.
They are in denial if you confront them about contributing to the huge mess they are in.

They simply deflect the significance of their individual responsibility and more often than not blame the government for all of the faults of mexican society.

No one cares in Mexico about anything because they literally DINDU NUFFIN
And if they DID do something, they cop out with the excuse of HURR WELL WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE, 3 MILLION OTHERS ARE ALSO DOING IT, WHY SHOULD I STOP NOW?

Mexico will never get better unless the culture itself goes through drastic changes.
No political party alone will fix this.
Changes need to a made from the lowest level possible.

I can predict his stupid brainless feminazi wife will be elected as the next president

I have been studying our history for a while now, and I just can't understand what went on on López Portillo Goverment, it always feels so surreal to read about it. Is like we just couldn't win, most of the time because of external factors, and things just get so shady once the banks got involved and made the government ask for huge loans from them that didn't succeed in saving Mexico from the financial crisis. I noticed that most documentaries and notes are reported by the banks or people who have ties with them, picturing them as the ones who actually did good in that situation.

Were we.. jewed? Does Nexico have jews on the top too?

The corruption starts with he small people. The population can't really ask much from their governors since, they too, are corrupt. We need a cultural revolution.

in the social aspect they are right wing. The also are more neoliberal than the PRI.

The richest man in Mexico (and the public world) is from some sandnigger shithole and not a real ethnic mexican.

What do you think?

how the hell do you start a cultural revolution? is this something you start with education of the masses?

sadly, as user said we would literally need a Hitler, our people wouldn't change otherwise.

Education of the masses is almost impossible in Mexico.
We need a Hitler

ALL of our parties are shit tier shades of leftist faggotry.

We have 0 right-wing alternatives. This is your future, Murrica.

PAN... Pinche indio garbanzero seguro mamabas al pelele fecalito

Calderon was trying to help the cartel of Sinaloa gain control all over Mexico under the guise that if only one cartel control all the territory it would be much safe and stable. He failed because bringing underpaid soldiers that have no loyalty and a corrupt local goverment that also has no loyalty. It's fighting a fight without any support and filled with moles.

well then fucking stand up and do it. i've met so many people from over there that want a change so bad. it's weird that nobody has stood up and taken control back

Fuck PAN. PRI FOR LIFE.

I lived in mexico for 10 years.
>inb4 beaner
My job required me to live in several places in mexico. I lived in Mexico DF, Guadalajara, Monterrey, Ciudad Juarez , Chihuahua and Nuevo Laredo.

Anyway in my time living there i learned quite a lot from the political system in Mexico. PRI and PAN are the two main poltical parties, if it helps you can think of them as the republicans and democrats. Then you have the other lesser parties like PRD, PT, Partido Verde who exist only for the sake of it and to win minor positions within the government. The big elections such as the presidency election is won either by PRI or PAN.

PRI has been atound since the mexican revolution which sought to destroy Porfirio Diaz's tyranical government

The way the election works there is actually better than the broken electoral college system we have here in' murica. over there the popular voter is actually what settles an election. Thats right, all the votes casted across the country are gathered and counted amd whoever has more wins.

I've heard of a few secret millitary coup attempts few decades ago that failed because of some snitches

Ve la decisión del presidente 1982 en you tube,

Luego lee "ahora recuerdo" de Carlos Tello, un gran libro que en parte narra or dentro lo que fue el sexenio de JLP

We need someone or something to inspire the people and let them have a duty and pride for something.

The mexican people are negative or complacent at best about pretty much everything.

Children grow up with no hopes or dreams or a promising future.
There is no discipline with regards to the laws and structure of their country.

Mexicans have a very narrow field of view and they rarely focus on things other than themselves or immediate family.

A police officer in Europe or America would take a bullet for a civilian and sacrifice his life for a total stranger because it is his duty.
He answers to and serves his people.

A mexican police officer would never risk his life for a fellow citizen.
He answers to his paycheck and works for his money alone.

Society is very broken when law keepers at the very lowest level do not see or care about the importance of their duties.

There exists no loyalty and no untainted government organ that is always keeping everybody in check.

Bribes are a way of life.

You know the quote "ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country"?

Not too many have lived by that quote in Mexico for a long time.

Don't talk shit about Porfirio Diaz. Fuck the mexican revolution. My family lost thousands of acres when the dumb famers revolted

I don't think we can meme a mexican cultural revolutoin from pol

I lived in Juarez when he was sworn in. 2 years later Juarez was the murder capital in the world. His war on drugs put a tighter grip on cartels and they were forced to take harsher actions against each other, dragging the civilian population with them. Criminal gangs and other petty criminals took advantage of the chaos and extortions and kidnappings were through the proverbial roof.

There was a point where you couldn't go out at night for a drink because cartel members where roaming the streets looking for other cartel people. It was fucking terrible.

Simón Creel Terrazas Limantour

what if we COULD meme a revolution of some kind? how would we do it?

At this point Mexico is just a non country with all political parties scavenging the remnants of a failed state and broken economy.
We aren't Venezuela just because the US keeps us on life support.

Empoderando a la gente. Ve lo que hace Arne Aus den Ruthen o como se escriba

I never suggested Sup Forums.
We need a solid and real political figure with a flawless past to inspire the masses and give them something to work for other than themselves.

Either that or simply creating small pockets of dissidents and creating micro governments within the country that actually enforce the law and slowly have them expand.

Basically a guerilla revolution.

But that again is a huge feat and it would be impossible for the masses to be consistent and not falter.

Things like this would be complete lifestyle changes to the citizens and most would not be willing to contribute out of patriotism or good will.

>how the hell do you start a cultural revolution?

You can't. There's no possible way to start a revolution with today's people, especially the young ones. Everyone likes to bitch and moan on twitter and facebook about the atrocities the governement does...but that's it, after they're done with their blog or whatever, they go play video games or watch the latest epik show on netflix, and the reality is that they're all content with their way of life and see corruption as just a by-product of the government.

People living during the revolution, which was in the 1910's and 20's, and were not part of some wealthy family, were really * fucking * miserable. That kind of misery breeds desperation and desperation is the foundation for rebellions.

So tl;dr, mexico will never experience another revolution. A revolution would mean sacrifice; something modern humans, even in semi-developed countries don't understand.

Im not. Porfirio Diaz was one of the best leaders mexico ever saw.

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>Which Mexican party is the least harmful?
the ones down the street. they are kinda loud with their carnival music but way safer than the niggers across the street

I mean, like actual international jewery, not just one individual but a society?..

Pretty much this too.

HOWEVER (heh)

There have been a few cases of small towns arming themselves and pushing the police and government out.

They have almost all been heavily religious and cult like, kind of like the Waco incident or those eastern American puritans (forgot their names).

So mexico COULD be changed very slowly if we had people believe in something almost religiously.

So either some kind of extreme fanatical Catholic/Christian theocracy or literally Adolpho Hitler.

You probably read about the autodefensas ( auto defense groups as they called themselves) They were groups formed in small villages that were endlessly harassed by cartels and their main objectives was to push cartels out of their towns since the police weren't willing to do anything about it.

I suggest you watch a documentary on Netflix called Cartel Land. It's about those groups and their struggle to get rid of cartels. Its pretty damn great and it goes into detail on how they operated. Keep in mind these towns are towns deep in the forest in bumfuck nowhere. Life in the cities is dramatically different.

well what are some of the most inspirational speakers and speeches in modern mexico? i still say there is some chance to meme at least a little change.

look at the campaigns people around here run. look at the draft our daughters campaign. that shit actually got news recognition. what's to say you can run your own campaign and start from that? let it spread through social media

I would if I knew how. And I'm sure that others like me think the same. Many Hitlers in the making, yea. Sadly I don't have many influences to accomplish it, or even the knowledge. I have been reading non stop about this issues since high school, I got into a serious mayor in economics and trade and I always try to learn as more as I can from it and go even beyond, many nights deprived of sleep always thinking in how to make my country change for the better. And still I feel like I know nothing relevant to this objective, like if that piece of knowledge or secret always find a way to elude me.. I keep doing what I'm doing because now after so many years I sincerely don't know what else to do.

And don't get me started in the influences part, I have being building a red of contacts for some time now, and is freaking difficult to add thrust worthy people that aren't corrupt and can actually bring something to the table.

As I'm convinced that others like me exist, I'm as well convinced that the others have the same block roads in their paths. Knowledge and influence. This is my grief.

This. Porfirio did nothing wrong.

No, I mean literally cult like towns who kicked EVERYBODY out and became one hundred percent self sufficient.

The mexican government censored news and reports about this and tried to paint them all as backwards nut jobs who denied human rights to women and such.

They probably are nut jobs but enough cases happened that the media completely dropped it and you rarely see anything about them now.

The few mexican articles have been erased on them and from here in America it is hard to know exactly what happened to them.

I actually have that doc and it was pretty great but it is a very different situation from what I've been talking about.

The closest non censored and non confrontational semi private community that I can tell you about it the small pockets of neighborhoods that the religion Luz del Nuevo Mundo has in guadalajara.

They are pretty much emulating Jews and actively segregate themselves from the local catholics.

There is a HUGE community of them in Guadalajara.
They all live together and have businesses that only employ fellow church members and have their own private hospitals and schools.

If you drive by the only difference you see is that everything is more orderly and peaceful.
They integrate with the rest of the population but they live their lives differently.
They aren't as scandalous our extreme as other openly private communities and as such they have no problems with the local government.

I have no faith in their religion as I strive to be a protestant Christian but I wish them luck.

>Creel Terrazas Limantour
care to give some background?

There are literally no inspirational speakers or leaders.
The closest thing we have is a mexican and more senile version of Bernie sanders called Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador.

He's a nut job and he actually has a chance of winning presidency unfortunately.

Muh Hitler
Muh Diaz
Muh Puz del Mundo

You faggots are Shillary tier of bullshit.

pretty sure la luz is rooted in some evangelical tradition, similar to the usa evangelicals, which are spiritual descendants of early protestantism

Post contacts user maybe we could start something. Who knows?

It's at least nice to a able to talk with people who think similairly.

Got an email or something?
I don't really know what people use to communicate regularly over there.
I suppose cancerbook is out of the question

yo soy igual que tu cabron. la diferiencia es que yo naci aqui en estados unidos. siempre queria regresar a mexico pero no se como es la cultura ni se como vivir alli. lo unico que conozco es la vida aqui.

aun asi tengo la pinche esperanza de que las cosas vayan a cambiar en mexico. tal vez ustedes tengan mas educacion que yo per en verdad a mi me gustaria ayudar de cualquier modo que pueda. una revolucion no es facil pero tampoco seria la primera en la historia del mundo. el primer paso si no estamos preparados para algo de esta magnitud es estudiar y prepararnos.

Prd means fart in Slovak.

Don't bother my friend, you won't be accepted.

You would have had to live there for a few years to fully understand the situation the country is in.

If you don't have a mexican birth certificate, the people will never accept you, even if you are right and have the best intentions.

They'd see you as a pocho or Chicano trying to tell them what to do.

I'm not really willing to post my contacts in this compromised site.. But yea would always love to talk with more people about it. Any idea on how we can do this?

Make a thread in a bumfuck empty chan that no one cares about like hispachan or lainchan.

I know it sounds sad. But this is the reality of the situation. We are this screwed. Other ideas are welcome tho if you wish to contribute with something we are not able to see or grasp.

>lo unico que conozco es la vida aqui.
Then speak English you fucking monkey

Mormons.

Te recomiendo estudiar a fondo y a detalle la historia de Mexico, es facil hablar de revolucion y cambio, pero no es lo mismo sabiendo donde estas parado y de quien estas rodeado. Ademas, lo mas probable es que se repita lo mismo que ha pasado antes de alguna forma u otra, asi que es mejor saberlo de antemano y evitar errores.

You guys have now an independent mayor, dont you?

lol that's quitter talk. plus i'm the kind of person that just doesn't give a fuck what people say about me, even if it's racist shit. most of their criticisms don't even stand up to simple logic.

not really sure. is there some kind of mexican chat site or forum where i can make an account and discuss shit? wasn't there some kind of spanish Sup Forums site?

He's just a complacent peñabot.
He's never been outside of his shithole town and thus doesn't know that there is a better world out there that mexico can strive to build.

Like the chickens who never strive for daylight because they are kept in closed dark budines their entire lives before they are slaughtered.

Why would they long for open fields and the warm embrace of our sun and freedom if they never experienced it in the first place?

How do they know?

Hispachan.
It's cancer and full of hardcore commies

Hay algun movimiento popular en Mexico similar al movimiento de Trump en los EEUU? Un movimiento de populistas quienes quieren quitar la corrupcion del gobierno y formar nuevos partidos politicos

I know it sounds sad. But this is the reality of the situation. We are this screwed. Other ideas are welcome tho if you wish to contribute with something we are not able to see or grasp.

there are some cancerous chan sites but they are shit

you can just keep it on Sup Forums. its pretty much what the board is for

Morena / el Peje

he has a decent shot at winning too

He said he is willing to help, not being the front face of it, I don't see a problem with him being born over there if he is decedant of us, by definition he got mexican nationality.

I guess an user IN Mexico should make a thread on hispachan and post a way for us to contact him and share our contacts.

If someone tries to post something in the /mex/ board from America they will not be allowed to a so, thus, mexi-user must do it.

We will not be able to post unless there we use a proxy, which I can't use at the moment due to being on my fucking dumb phone right now

Don't you paisas have the Pan party of bread?

...You.. don't want him to "go back"? wew..

PAN for federal gov
Independents for municipalities
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NUEVA ALIAZA-PRD-PRI-PT-VERDE same corrupted shit
Morena commie scum

>yfw commies are the only ones who can deal with brigands and cartels

The capitalists just make deals with them, senpai.

sounds a lot simpler if you just make a Discord group and whoever wants in joins it

OR I'll just put my info up and you can contact me I don't give a fuck and organize shit.

I'll just update all the info for you all tomorrow.
I've got work early in the morning and I haven't slept for a whole 24 hours now.

i suppose this site will have to do for now.

wouldn't mind having discussions here but the white guys get pissed off at everything. im surprised they haven't shit this thread up yet.

I'm being inclined by discord rn, and maybe from there start a what's up group? WhatsApp is encrypted btw.

Think I saw billboards for these guys on the carretera just south of TJ this summer. El Peje is ex-PRD though so he's probably more left-wing?

uh, lol, literally what the fuck is what's app? if it's some kind of social media thing, i don't really do social media.

quiero que vete a la chingada mi Sup Forums cabron!!!11 reeeeee

Is an chat App for cellphones. basically free texting if you have an internet connection.

kek

you havent been in reforma? its filled with (((they)))

Morena is the leftiests most sjw-pandering party in mexico.

My sister works for a disability rights association and whenever i go to one of their forums, you can immediately tell them apart just by the tumblr hair

Also is downloadable from the Play Store, look for WhatsApp

I made a discord account (fucking lame gamershit)

Name is PedroElCapitalista.

Don't know how to use this shit