Can we talk about the lackluster 'Vertigo Reboot' panel?

Can we talk about the lackluster 'Vertigo Reboot' panel?
We were promised exciting new books by A-list creators......insted we got Si Spurrier and a bunch of literally whos on uninteresting concepts akin to any other low-grade title they tried out and cancelled after a dozen issues in the last few years

DC killed Vertigo and took all of their classic characters to integrate them shittily into the DCU. They should've just let Shelly Bond and Gerard Way run Vertigo instead of giving him Young Animal.

Vertigo has been dead for years

>Can we talk about the lackluster 'Vertigo Reboot' panel?
The real reboot is happening in August next year. All the stuff that was announced is filler minis that will come out in the beginning of 2018. So, all the meaty stuff is still yet to be announced.

What minis were announced?

The problem is that Vertigo is pointless when Image provides a better deal for creator owned comics.

So what did they announce. Do you have a link or anything

>Can we criticize DC on Sup Forums?

No, lol.

Motherlands by Si Spurrier and Rachael Stott.

the other mini is by Josh Williamson and Riley Rossmo, called Deathbed, but decent creative team?

and then they talked about the 2 recent Vertigo series, Tim Seeley's Imaginary Friends and John Ridley's American Way sequel

This.

Why make the next Y or DMZ at Vertigo when you can go to Image and own what you make.

>We were promised exciting new books by A-list creators...

in August.
we were promised those thing when Vertigo relaunches in August.

this is just them treading water until then.

Dubs of truth.
It's not the quantity of DC fanboys here, but the shrill volume and persistence of them.

some creators don't want to handle all the responsibilities of payments and production that goes into Image?

Abaddon got his webcomic put into a (tiny) Image trade.
It's clearly not some onerous hassle.

DC wants to revitalize Vertigo, and only 3rd rate scrubs want to compromise their "artistic vision" to put in the effort.

>The problem

There is no problem, though.

Doesn't BKV own the rights to Y? He's been shopping the stuff around for a decade.

Well, the problem for DC and Vertigo, not for comic book readers

The problem is Image comics is mediocrity and blandness personified. It's to Sci fi and fantasy what the big two is to capeshit.

Yeah. This.
Not even Y or DMZ would be at Vertigo today. Warners has clamped down on DC to reduce the creative control and movie rights for Vertigo titles.

mfw DC says Vertigo is a go to place for creator owned work when not even the creators of their biggests hits have flown away

Modern Vertigo is even more bland and corporate.

That's false.

Y came out years ago, before Warners restructuring DC and Vertigo.

Just like any other publisher, they have good stuff and bad stuff. You seem to be forgetting all the crappy Vertigo series that came out when it was at the height of its popularity

Yeah, it seems like the contracts now have a five year exclusivity term before the creator gets the rights back. For example, Saucer Country by Paul Cornell started in 2012 and ended in 2013, and he is now doing a sequel to it over at IDW with the same characters

Nobody is arguing against that.

But Image doesn't have a lot of good stories to balance out the bad one. They wouldn't publish something like Sandman, Young liars or War Stories. They'll just publish yet another Remender space western or a bland Mark Millar pitch.

Aren't the newly announced books for Young Animal?

I think they have good stories but I'll agree with the sentiment that modern Image lacks truly GREAT comics like Sandman

Only the Girl Eternity is, the others are 6 issue mini's

Girl Eternity and the January Young Animal/DC event are the only Young Animal stuff.

everything else announced/talked about was Vertigo.

Constantine, Endless, and Swamp Thing were already DCU you idiot. When was the last time Jesse appeared in the DCU?

Spurrier at DC is big news though

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There are people who insist that characters who originated in the DCU but moved to the Vertigo imprint brand were retroactively removed from ever being in the DCU, despite some of them (like Daniel) making occasional appearances after Sandman finished