So I was watching a lecture with a famous physicist. He gave a rant about how "We physicists" discovered electricity, gravity...
Then I saw a comment, a White Nationalist correcting him. saying it was White people who discovered all those things.
It made me think. Is it right for people to claim the accomplishments of other individuals in the pretext of ethnicity?
Can a Scandinavian whose ancestors where Vikings take credit for ancient Greek scientists. Just cause they share the same race?
Blake Hughes
One of those groups doesn't exclude the other. It's like a venn diagram.
Eli Walker
>michio cuckoo >physicist Pick only one. The dude's a meme
Eli Morales
>Then I saw a comment, a White Nationalist correcting him. saying it was White people who discovered all those things. Kind of irrelevant in that case since the Japanese discovered anime which is the highest blessing ever bestowed upon us all.
Aiden Hill
>Is it right for people to claim the accomplishments of other individuals in the pretext of ethnicity?
Well, you CAN if you seriously need something to boost your self esteem. But people too often get carried away with that shit.
It's like how people claim the accomplishments of other individuals in the pretext of nationality, political group, gender, religion (or atheism), drug use, etc. etc. Far too many people obsess so much on stuff other people in their group did that they don't really notice that they lack their own individual personal accomplishments.
James Gomez
I think the correct term would be intelligent people made scientific discoveries. I would never take credit for something for sharing the same race, that would be we wuzzing btw the fact that Jewish scientists made incredible discoveries as well causes extreme cognitive dissonance here
Jose Collins
Absolutely this.
Noah Bailey
>Just cause they share the same race? but they are not. there is no white race.
Adam Sanchez
>I am proud of being black OH WOW YOU'RE AWESOME
>I am proud of the achivements of muslims YES, THEY ARE GRAND, SO HAPPY
>I am proud of the achivements of white people WTF THAT DOES NOT EVEN MAKE LOGICAL SENSE
Leo Lee
>Far too many people obsess so much on stuff other people in their group did that they don't really notice that they lack their own individual personal accomplishments. this meme again
Colton Bailey
One moment: >Dude Greeks are not white lmao
The next moment >we wuz mathematicians, philosophers and shiet
We're just pointing out the hypocricy
Benjamin Cruz
I think it's just a meme, people can't be so dumb as to take pride in other people's accomplishments can they?
Jose Hughes
>physicists did stuff >no! it was white people! Has white pride turned into another "we wuz kangs" thing?
Justin Jackson
Greeks then are not the Greek mongrels we have now.
Mason Sanders
individualism at work. you have been well "educated"
Brayden Sullivan
It's the exact same thing as taking credit for all of physicists work if you are a physicist.
Carter Anderson
>Can a Scandinavian whose ancestors where Vikings take credit for ancient Greek scientists. Just cause they share the same race?
You'd sound stupid. Just as stupid as the guy who corrected him by saying "it was White people who discovered all those things."
Juan Peterson
That would be silly. I don't think very highly of patriotism despit calling myself a nationalist. I do believe that we should prevent a one world government and preserve cultures and traditions. This involves a certain amount of respect for ancuent customs but it dies not mean that you, personally, invented it. That would not be logical.
Logan Ward
>claim This is where you're wrong. A white person saying it was white people who invented all that shit is not equivalent to saying "I'm white, therefore everything invented by white people was invented by me". Your argument is retarded.
James Sanders
That's true of many futurists though. I've met several who are astoundingly uneducated, yet get to make inspiring feel-good speeches for a living
Ryan Scott
In that sense, can you take credit for something just cause you share the same work or education as someone else?
I think there is no credit at all to take from someone else accomplishments, no matter what you might have in common with that person.
Cameron Murphy
IT IS BOTH WRONG TO CLAIM THE YOUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF RACE AND OF OTHERS IN YOUR OCCUPATION
Aaron Hall
>Has white pride turned into another "we wuz kangs" thing?
It's been like that for a while. Just not as loud and pronounced as black people doing the WE WUZ KANGZ thing.
Wyatt Martinez
nords didn't do shit for the civilization. GET OVER SNOWNIGGER
John Russell
Not really. Jews are smart but they're slimey conniving scum too.
James Jackson
Yes.
Connor Kelly
astonishing how many here are brainwashed with ultra-individualism and don't dare to take pride in what their ancestors did in order to build on that, but instead reject their heritage so they dont "wuz" or whatever. this is literally just virtue signalling and severe oneself from ones roots to be good goy.
Colton Myers
Yes and no
It was white physicists, but he is autismal for bringing that up there, as the lecture had nothing to do with race.
Jonathan Thompson
before there was Kaku before there was Kurzweil there was Criswell!
Chase Nguyen
BILL! BILL! BILL! BILL! BILL! BILL! BILL! BILL! BILL NYE THE BACHELOR'S IN MECHANICAL ENGINEERING GUY
Joshua Foster
>We wus physicists and sheit...
Literally the nigger of science. This guy.
Gabriel Garcia
Everyone has pitched in except niggers
This is the doctrine of /sci/
Jayden Cooper
I wish I could write the kind of insanely wordy bullshit Ed Wood wrote for him
it's so bad that it's even difficult to mimic.
Logan Powell
>we -> white people Is he saying Asians will eventually evolve into white people?
Jackson Johnson
If I can take credit for slavery, then I can sure as fuck take credit for electricity.
Jason Edwards
Also this, futurism is cancer.
Jonathan Harris
I think it's fair to a degree when it comes to nation/culture, political group, family or religion to an extent.
If those groups foster and promote that innovative type of thought then I think it's fair to attribute part of the success to that group.
I mean I'm sure part of the reason the west is far more innovative than the east even with less people is because our cultures promote free critical thought more than there's. That's the price of extreme conformity in thought.
Julian Sullivan
Holy shit that fucko was at my uni just now
Leo Stewart
ed wood didn't write for him, Criswell was a real guy claiming to be able to predict the future and was on TV and Radio in his day about as much as Kaku is today.
Zachary Edwards
False. Besides, youre not descended from them.
Jaxson Williams
>This shit again
James Sullivan
>Is it right for people to claim the accomplishments of other individuals in the pretext of ethnicity? Can we claim accomplishments under pretext of anything?
It's all or nothing on this type of topic.
Nicholas Garcia
>but they are not. there is no white race.
Ahmed pls
Nicholas Cooper
The lecture was correct. It was physicists who made all the dicoveries in the realm of physical laws. This is a tautolgy though. It has no value as a statement. Of course most of these physicists were white, male, middle to upper class in their respective societies, etc. But such common attributes among them are arbitrary. The only significant community is their profession.
Alexander Green
"white" is a political umbrella term to divide between "whites" and "none-whites". nordic, germanic,etc is what we are.
Evan Russell
>architects and builders built the arc de triomphe, effiel tower, Versailles... etc, not the French >enlightenment was Done by philosophers, not the French >French empire was build by generals, not the French idk man at some point it feels like you're purposefully splitting hairs to prevent a great culture and country in having pride. All those people are french until you attach a job title to them
I mean, Jews aren't shy about telling you how great they are because of how many great people they've produced.
Ryan White
Ancient Greeks hadn't been raped by Turks for hundreds of years though. A large portion of modern Greeks are Turkish mongrels, not ancient Hellens.
Easton Garcia
Well the guy's a retard but he is an honorary aryan. It's OK to be proud of other's achievements, as long as you respect their legacy and uphold their values. Usually this is people who you have something in common with ethnically, but it does'nt have to be. If someone is of chink descent but western upbringing, he may identify more with western values.
Logan Bailey
That guy is a marxist goon.
Logan Lopez
>Is it right for people to claim the accomplishments of other individuals in the pretext of ethnicity?
Yes because our people preserved the knowledge of our ancestors and improved on it over time while niggers still eat dirt cookies
It takes a special kind of entitlement to live in the modern civilized world whites built and then pretend that their collective influence didnt really matter
Samuel Johnson
>some virgin meme "scientist" >WE WUZ ELECTRICITY N SHIEEET Only europeans and jews contributed to physics. And they're, white people.
Levi Watson
kek
Kevin Parker
Genius doesn't appear in a vacuum. It needs a culture to nurture it; everyone must do his part.
Gabriel Rogers
both are right but really neither.
either you did it personally, or you did it together with other people, or you did jack shit
actually I think I would give it to the physicists. when you say "whites did this". white is a state. but physics is a practice. if the practice of physics has brought X accomplishments, then someone who carries on that practice has more claim to those than someone who merely has the same race
you should have your own accomplishments.
Henry Ross
You niggers can't even agree on the definition of white.
Carter White
Are you proud of your little cousin learning to walk? Are you proud of your brother for becoming a father? Are you proud of your uncle for starting a buisness? Just extend that out a bit and you will see why i am proud of the achievements of my race
Elijah Peterson
Wow, it's like different people on pol have different opinions!
Matthew Howard
Your right sweden.
Everyone should just become the rape capital of europe.
Austin Jenkins
If one physicist can associate himself with all physicists, why can't one white person associate himself with all white people?
Sebastian Perez
>Dr. >uneducated Pick one
Michael Nelson
Is it fair to be proud of your brother just because you happened to be his brother? Same applies to countries, same applies to race
Angel Rogers
Wrong.
Leo Reyes
People of colors cultural appropriation of our culture's technology should not be tolerated.
Jack Watson
I don't think it's right to take part in the achievements your ancestors did, but I think it's okay to laugh at people who's ancestors didn't even manage to invent a sharpened stick.
Even the stupidest person will see there's something wrong with the lineage.
Parker Taylor
Congrats, you are a fully brainwashed kikepuppet.
Here's a redpill: having pride in your heritage and your ancestors and their achievements is not only healthy, it objectively makes you better than people who don't.
Robert Cox
>Is it right for people to claim the accomplishments of other individuals in the pretext of ethnicity? Yes, but only proportionally to the amount that other people defame and subvert your ethnicity.
Joshua Thompson
This is the main problem of you the Germans and the root cause of all your problems.
You have been trained to obey on every title that sounds respectable and question nothing.
Juan Powell
By that logic everyone on this board is justified in calling you a stupid cuck leaf because your fellow canucks voted in le current weed man.
You're conflating being proud with inappropriately sharing in credit, i.e. WE WUZ.
Julian Wright
>"We physicists" Once you've derived the 10 different forms of Maxwell's equations from first principles a couple of dozen times you might get an idea for why physicists feel like the achievements of their forefathers belong to them as well.
Cooper Cooper
Congrats: You sound just like a collectivist communist - ideologies created by your Jewish masters.
Samuel Long
I can see both sides. I'm proud of what whites have done in history just like I am proud of what my parents have done. I don't go off pretending I share some bond with Italians, or Spanish, or Greeks, nor do I pretend to share their accomplishments or culture, but as a group, I acknowledge there excellence.
I am proud of the British and Americans, though. I only feel connected to those nations (plus Germany), but I guess I'm just muh heritaging.
Jackson Mitchell
i agree, but i think very few people claim those achievements as their own because they share a race, what they are claiming is that a certain group is better than another group, not that they are personally better than some other person
Aaron Stewart
Good point user.
Angel Phillips
the problems of the Germans, and germanic people by extension is that since 1871 they have been farting higher than their ass, and when this happens you end up putting a suppository into your neck.
And then you have the retarded Americans who think that there is a single white races, and that Germanic are the pinnacle of this race.
Michael Cox
Taking pride in what your ancestors did and what your nation accomplished is a healthy form of respect and admiration to those who contributed to your people which is btw your nation. It has nothing to do with appropriating their work, but to praise their work through the ages.
Robert Flores
>Can a Scandinavian whose ancestors where Vikings take credit for ancient Greek scientists. Just cause they share the same race? They aren't the same race.
Jaxon Sanchez
>Is it right for people to claim the accomplishments of other individuals in the pretext of ethnicity? "Right" and "wrong" are irrelevant here, but it is incorrect. If you did not directly contribute to an invention, discover, or other accomplishment, you should not make claims of contribution precisely because you did not contribute. This is true on all bases, be they career, ethnic, direct lineage, and so on.
What should instead be defend is the culture which allowed inventors, discoverers, and the accomplished to flourish. Where and when did physicists discover electricity? What about the environment in which they worked advantaged them over people in other parts of the world? These are questions of culture which allows or inhibits scientific progress.
Jose Russell
This guy gets it.
Hudson Jackson
>Can a Scandinavian whose ancestors where Vikings take credit for ancient Greek scientists. Just cause they share the same race?
WE
Jose Jenkins
You have to remember that a lot of people believe sharing the same skin tone means you're the same race. Doesn't matter if you can factually prove that this is wrong - it's what's commonly accepted among every-fucking-body.
Adam Robinson
It's write, he's a terrible physicist. Have you read his textbook? It's complete garbage.
Dylan Gutierrez
Yes that's the way it is.
Jeremiah Sullivan
Except they weren't physicists then, the discipline didn't exist.
Austin Rivera
>And then you have the retarded Americans who think that there is a single white races, and that Germanic are the pinnacle of this race.
Yep. Meme on so many levels
Luke Martin
but scandinavians, western europeans and southern europeans have different skin tones
Jackson King
So do black people, from mocha-colored to tar-colored and everything in between. But the common man lumps them all into the same category of "black people".
So too does it happen with "white people" if their skin tone is lighter than most and you're able to produce hair color other than black, you're all collectively put into the category of "white people."
Frankly, I'm surprised I even have to explain this to anybody in the world.
Parker Collins
>And then you have the retarded Americans who think that there is a single white races, and that Germanic are the pinnacle of this race >implying thats wrong
Ayden Butler
This is true. Although, so have we.
Logan Thompson
Well niggers are holding whites accountable for slavery, so we should also be held accountable for the Western world (everything that makes up it).
Josiah Howard
I was just pointing out that the American conception of race that classifies Arabs as "white" is stupid. As much as the English lumping Indians, Japanese and Chinese under the same "Asian" umbrella.
Charles Young
>>implying thats wrong
implying that it was not the eternal Anglo behind it. again
Chase Harris
Yes. The greatness and potential of our race should be a uniting factor. I reject some gook whose people have never accomplished anything laying claim to White accomplishments.
Jaxson Young
This.
Nathaniel Johnson
But japanese are honorary aryans! what tha fuck
Charles Scott
so are the Chinese according to Hitler...
that's a lot of aryans
Chase Wilson
Jews always win, senpaitachi
Jason Williams
You can be proud of the civilization your ancestors built. Of course we swedes can't, since it has gone to shit and is a continuing embarrasment, but others can.
Liam Collins
>Then I saw a comment, a White Nationalist correcting him
Did the white nationalist mention all the Jewish physicists?
Jackson Morgan
>"(((((physics))))) >brought to you by SATAN >erm.... I mean NASA >founded by Nazis and Jack Parsons (JPL Labs) >>>if you're new, he's the guy who got chucked by Ron L Hubbard, while they were doing sex magical rituals trying to open the gates of hell
Joseph Russell
No, we are Europeans/Whites. With that attitude you're going to have your kike mountain invaded either non-Whites, or Europeans who are pissed off with your (((neautrality))).