ITT: Sup Forums characters that can beat Jiren and Goku

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The answer is still Superman.

Literally hundreds from DC and Marvel alone.

It's been a while since I read Irredeemable, god damn he looks like Dio on that cover.

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No one knows what Ching Chong Ding Dong characters you're talking about.

I could.

You choose plutonian just because of how similar his suit is from Jiren uniform right?

More like Souther from hnk

I like how he was a villain but as the comic went on you rooted for him to break out of that space prison and kick asses

Still one of the most fun superhero comics ever

i thought they made a point that , that hero never learned how to fight because he's always relied on having a power advantage over his opponent. The minutes he fought someone with comparable strength but knows just a smidge of actual fighting technique he got beat

Carol is not at Goku or Jiren's level user

Yup, just checked that out and yeah that's way closer.

Tony deserved better :(

That was before his final evolution

He never reached his full potential, he was a reality warper to believed to have superman powers but he never learned how to fully control it so he keep using his fake superman powers.

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I AM SEITEI SOUTHER.

NEVER BEG, NEVER RETREAT, NEVER SURRENDER

>Superman Expy is ACTUALLY a reality-warper but too afraid to use his powers beyond being a flying brick
Is that Sentry?

She can lower herself there probably.

Man irredeemable had a horrible ass ending

Since when is Carol at the level of threatening universes?

But he actually is superman

Absolutely false

Look at him... love has made this child crazy!

The answer will always be pic related.

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Christ is that a conehead or a beehive?

Absolutely this.

It was shit

Are you retarded?

What

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Since when are Jiren or Goku?

Yeah, what chance at would a guy who's Flash, Magneto, Graviton and Molecule Man rolled into one have against a monkey that likes to punch thing?

:^)

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>Hey, Goku and Jiren, let me show you my power at 100 %
>Hurr durr, ok, do your worst
>Nova flame

>Teleported somewhere in the universe instantly, Flash beat him there on foot
>Captured and forced to fight on Sakaar
>Black Panther put him in a headlock

He's a chump.

Goku- since the fight with Beerus
Jiren- since however long he could wreck Goku

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Wrong, watch episode 13

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to go along with the horrible ass beginning and middle

Saying the whole thing was horrible limits how bad the ending was
Horrible beginning and middle, utterly stupid ending

Looks like nonsense to me
"Enthropy drained" blah blah. Enthropy is consequence of passage of time, not some power-sapping filed that can be travelled into

It's a comic

Doesn't mean lazy writing is acceptable.

All they had to say was that you're trapped in the far distant future all matter has been sucked into the gaping void of the black hole that has consumed all of existence. It's the same shit and not blatantly false.

That was pure bullshit.

The ending was bullshit tho. And the civilians were Marvel-tier retarded, they deserved it.

Nah it sounds way more retarded the way you said it
Guess that's why you write on Sup Forums for free

Context?

Plutonian did nothing wrong.

>Black Panther put him in a headlock
Casual detected. In the next pages, it shows that Surfer let him do that. Try reading comics instead of looking at screencaps

Give me a quick run on this character. Why is he wearing Jiren's suit? How strong is he?

Goku and probably Jiren can Hakai

It's established Jiren is at least GoD level and possibly above that, and UI Goku was matching Jiren blow for blow and used a technique even Beerus hasn't mastered.

Not in the anime

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