The referendum was pointless from day one, it was never legally binding
Leo Cook
The tabloids today are hilarious. Independent judges are "Enemies of the people" because they ruled for the sovereignty of Parliament. You literally couldn't make it up.
Nolan Ortiz
It should have been pointed out before. I mean, Remainers should have made the point before that even if they lose, they hold the elite positions and hence can simply block the democratic vote. It has simply come as a surprise to people.
Isaac Moore
To be fair, parliament and politicians exist because it wouldn't be practical to have everyone in the country vote about every little decision on the running of the country. So you elect a bunch of people who are suppose to represent you (and a large group of people) and make these decisions on your behalf.
If said elected representatives don't vote for the Brexit, they are enemies of the people because their job is to represent the people and the people voted for the Brexit.
Xavier King
So you don't want a democratically elected Parliament to be involved in negotiating Brexit? How else would we go about it?
Nathaniel Richardson
I think parliament is there to represent the public. In cases where you have a national referendum, parliament's job is already done; the will of the people has already been decided in the vote.
Parliament should not be used to block the will of the people, that is basically the exact opposite of what it is supposed to be for.
Parliament can be involved in negotiations and discussions, but that isn't what is happening. Read the pro-Remain press. They view this as a chance to stop Brexit, not to merely take part in negotiations.
Chase Young
Peter Hitchens was right, we need a government with a mandate to get out.
We need to demand a general election and vote for Eurosceptic MPs.
Logan Wright
Authority does not exist, because authority is compliance. All that anyone can do when you refuse to obey them is threaten to coerce you into compliance by the use of force. Essentially, they are trying to leverage your fear in their favor to bring you to submission.
No one has to do a fucking thing anyone else tells them, ever. Not objectively, anyway.
Julian Walker
When did this country of mine become so cucked user?
Jeremiah Gray
Status update on Brexit?
Benjamin Ross
>Lord Dubs
Check 'em.
Grayson Smith
If the parliament is sovereign rather than your people, then the people are inevitably subjects. I know the British experience with democracy and the social contract regarding it is different than here in the States but that's a terrifying prospect to lay naked on the table to me. A complete destruction of the guiding principle and ideal of democracy in the 20th and 21st century. It becomes that the government owns the people, not that the people own the government.
It's fine for Parliament to take the lead negotiating on Brexit given there is more accountability than with unelected officials doing so, but if your parliament does >Read the pro-Remain press. They view this as a chance to stop Brexit, not to merely take part in negotiations.
Then they are subordinating the will of the people for their own mercurial whims.
Do that and brexit will lose. They will be able to frame the MPs in narratives independent of Brexit: "Oh you support Brexit? Well your MP choice A supports Brexit but he also supports raising taxes/gutting the NHS/some wedge issue boogeyman. MP Choice B is a remainer but they support all these things you approve of"
Then when pro-EU MPs are elected they can claim their mandate is entirely from supporters of remaining.
Connor Flores
Redpill me on Northern Ireland
t.ourist
Gabriel Lee
Nothing changed since yesterday.
Isaiah Long
Remainers on parliament being able to vote on brexit: "ah yes very good I certainly hope our elected officials put a stop to this as the point of an MP is to vote for what's best for us not blindly follow public opinion"
Remainers on parliament voting in favour of the snoopers charter: "REEEEEEEEE I DIDN'T VOTE FOR THIS REEEEEEEEE PARLIAMENT IS ILLEGITIMATE REEEEEEEE"
Christ the cognative dissonance is hilarious. On /r/unitedKingdom this is actually happening on the front page.
Asher Murphy
>Status update on Brexit?
Dunno lad, May has gone into hiding
Josiah Baker
>In Bosnia and Herzegovina, a post-Yugoslav country still divided along ethnic lines, the Bosniaks in downtown Sarajevo (mainly Muslim) support Clinton, while the Serbs in the Eastern district of the capital have a clear preference for Trump.
Clinton confirmed Muslim candidate
Cameron King
Status: cucked
We need Donald to win so he can fund the Brexit forces in the coming civil war.
John Johnson
Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi visited the White House in October and made statements which can be interpreted as support for Clinton.
“My personal opinion is that the name of future has to be freedom. The name of the future has to be education not intolerance, sustainability not distraction, trust not hate, bridge[s] not walls,” he said, in an apparent reference to Trump’s declared ambition to build a wall on the US border with Mexico.
God damnit Europeans are cucked.
Noah Ortiz
One of the only places in the UK you will find genuine British patriotism
Logan Cox
>Trying this hard
Jaxson Russell
There's no negotiations or discussions because May doesn't know what the fuck she's doing.
This whole Brexit debate was framed in the way of sovereignty of the British government, now the government are being forced to be sovereign on an issue and the press are bitching.
Lucas Murphy
Friendly reminder Brexit WILL get voted through parliament because the Tories will whip their backbenchers into line and Labour can't afford to have a general election right now so they'll vote for it too.
So don't worry.
Carter Morales
That's even assuming this dumb ruling makes it past Supreme Court in the first place.
Ryan Jenkins
>remaniacs already doing the "everyone who didn't vote agrees with my side therefore you don't have a majority"
Camden Murphy
Who are the high court judges responsible for the "parliament must vote" thing? And how many of them love "europe"?
Caleb Brown
>There's no negotiations or discussions because May doesn't know what the fuck she's doing.
And Remainers are helping the process by blocking the triggering of Article 50 and the official negotiations period, are they?
Daniel Davis
Judges love the EU.
Gove, a lead Brexiteer, gave a speech at a banquet celebrating the UK judiciary, and they hated him.
In contrast a pro-EU globalist gave a speech and the judges loved him.
‘The referendum debate shone a light on all UK institutions and industries including our justice system,’ he said.
‘As head of the City of London Corporation, and ambassador for all UK financial services, I – we – made our position clear.
'For businesses, employees and our communities – we wanted to remain in the EU.’
This drew the night’s loudest cheers.
Bentley Edwards
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Chase Butler
Simple question to you britons: Some said that your MPs won`t dare to question the referendum, but isn`t it in their interest to vote just like their county did?
Also how likely is a general election in 2017?
Leo Mitchell
Why wouldn't the tory BBers and half the cabinet revolt? They can't lose a general election.
Ian Roberts
Any of the three judges directly remain though? Looking for.. Reasons..
Nathan Lewis
if they vote how theyr constituency did ittl be a 420 to 240 majority to Leave
Justin Sanders
Aside from this incident I mean. Not sure if judges remain user.
Josiah Gonzalez
And the House of Lords?
Triggering article 50 will require an act of parliament, according to David Davis, which'll mean it'll have to get through the SJW Lords.
Literally no one knows. Some say parliament would pass it, others say they'd vote against it.
John Cox
Who knows how they'll, it's up to them. They're stuck between party politics and their constituents. BBers have nothing to lose, not sure what the whips can do to enforce this apart from expulsion.
Carson Nguyen
anything happen on QT?
Henry Mitchell
>Also how likely is a general election in 2017?
Depends on if the Supreme court overrule yesterdays ruling on the 7th Dec I think (I don't think they will), if it isn't overturned then a general election is a high probability.
David Gomez
Really?! Wow.
Source?
> 420
Robert Jones
*Depends on if the Supreme courts overruling of yesterdays ruling which is on the 7th Dec I think
James Taylor
> 660 seats in the commons
No m8
Jaxon Watson
Lads I think I'm going to convert to Islam so I'll be on the winning side when the caliphate rises. Anyone else?
You mean you'll first against the wall when we win
Henry Flores
Based
Matthew Harris
...
Logan Stewart
so brexit isn't happening?
Elijah Diaz
it is but it will likely be delayed
iattempting to stop it would result in there being a massive amount of politicians' blood spilled on the streets
Aiden Kelly
MP's will honestly die like flies if they block it. They won't be so stupid.
Chase Howard
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Carson Howard
>Triggering article 50 will require an act of parliament, according to David Davis, which'll mean it'll have to get through the SJW Lords.
All the lords can do is put it through parliament again. They can't actually block anything.
Michael Torres
It's rather hard to say.
Supreme Court could throw out the high court's decision and if not then MPs could theoretically vote the same way their constituents did and it would pass.
The remain MPs will probably try and talk it to death though.
Daniel Ward
>that face >25
Jesus Christ
Jayden Sanders
>you share the nation with these people Ugh...
>All the lords can do is put it through parliament again. They can't actually block anything. They can just keep sending it back to the Commons, no?
Mason Clark
Think that's bad?
Joshua Wilson
Wait, this was all caused by a foreign hedge fund manager? I thought the lefties hated those people, fuck the 1% and all that.
William Torres
>They can just keep sending it back to the Commons, no? it gets forced through after a certain amount of tries
Camden Baker
No. It goes through eventually regardless.
Angel Smith
lefties don't hate anything but white civilisation
Grayson Bell
Lad, we should try do something good for once instead of shitposting and ruining QT. Get a pen and paper, write to your MP and tell them that if it comes to it they should vote to leave the EU in Parliament as it is the will of the people.
Brody Diaz
That evil hooker looks old for 25
Aaron Sullivan
Compare: 25 year old Asian girl
Look at those feet. Bet they smell fucking amazing.
Oliver Perez
already tweeted her telling her to 'act wisely' and got a few retweets and likes
my constituency voted 66% to leave
she can fuck off if she votes remain
Jaxon Cooper
bet they smell like feet
Jace Harris
Question Time was shite yesterday
Nathaniel Brooks
still better than reading about fake child sex stories, reading drumpf and ctr every post here though
Jason Watson
Leave wins by an even greater margin when done by FPTP, kek
Charles Jenkins
I don't ever venture outside of Brit/pol/ 2bh
James Price
anyone else feel kinda bad for Corbyn?
Jace Davis
This is why you go for a handwritten letter. It barely takes a minute to send out a tweet but a letter has far more weight to it, the matter was important enough for you to send a few minutes writing it, posting it and getting a stamp.
Eli Richardson
>Remainer cucks think MPs won't vote the way their constituencies voted in the referendum
Caleb Hall
At least he believes in SOMETHING, even if it is islamic communism
Luis Lopez
25 going on 45? Is she a refugee or something?
Grayson Allen
>where's the booze?
Justin Richardson
can you send them so they can't tell where it came from? never sent a letter before.
Luke Johnson
Bet she wishes she could step in and sort this shit out.
Robert Baker
No. He's commie scum and deserves all the hate.
Sebastian Russell
I cannot scrounge up a single ounce of pity for Corbyn, he represents the cancer of the left and I hate him. He's this 'working class champion' when he is exactly the same as his opponents.
Privately schooled, career politicians.
As long as you don't write a return address, yeah.
Zachary Scott
I like that no one could even remember the name of the lib dem guy.
Anthony Rodriguez
What do you reckon her maj drinks?
Christopher Reyes
Red Stripe
Jackson Gutierrez
I'd assume some kind of strong, expensive spirit But she doesn't drink to excess
Joseph Richardson
Jager bombs.
Colton Howard
Lets be honest here lads, there's only one drink.
Gavin Collins
Stop posting this ugly cunt.
She looks like Luther from the Warriors.
Anthony Johnson
GOOD MORNING.
Just been for a walk with the dogs to the shops, kek'ed at the papers this morning Based Right Wing British press upsetting the left once again.
Christian Allen
Holy Water
Anthony Brown
You're all wrong.
Connor Cox
------------------------- Dear Victoria
I voted Conservative at the 2015 general election based on the promise of a EU Referendum if there were to be a Conservative majority.
Given how you you declared support for 'Remain' during the referendum, can you indicate whether or not you would support Theresa May in a parliamentary vote on the triggering of Article 50, in line with the wishes of the British people, and the majority of your constituents, myself included.
Yours Sincerely user ---------------------
I didn't actually vote conservative, but I need to make her think I'll be switching if she opposes the motion in parliament
Hudson Barnes
>lying Rude
Ayden Cook
>not voting ukip you got what u wished for
Lincoln King
Send your MP a photograph of Joe cox.
Noah Taylor
From an outside perspective, the thing that annoys me the most about this is the absolutely disingenuous way in which those that support remaining, including Australians like me that have no idea about the actual issues, engage in the debate. I see posts all the time, written by people who get their opinions verbatim from the most left-leaning panelist on Q&A that week, that seem to suggest their primary concerns are the slim margin by which leave won and that fact that voter turnout wasn't literally 100%. I can absolutely guarantee that these people wouldn't be questioning the "integrity of our poor, manipulated democratic process" had they won.
It's really quite disgusting.
Isaiah Jenkins
I don't think she really cares desu user.
She has her big house(s), her guards always surrounding her with handguns and assault rifles, she hasn't got anything to worry about.
Don't you go outside with that butterknife though.
Brayden Roberts
damn and i though my ex looked a little older for 25 this bitch looks 40
Zachary Russell
And get a free guaranteed visit from MI5/GCHQ!
Anthony Hall
>numbers of commons votes before signing maastricht or lisbon
Wyatt Ortiz
Reminder, many MP's are actually corrupt and despite earning £70,000+ annually will grease the wheels of the system to grab at even more of taxpayers money.
>SNP MP's putting their children on as 'personal assistants' on taxpayer salaries of 30k+ a year each. >SNP MP's abusing the system to get tens of thousands of pounds into their pockets. >MP's of every party claiming on their expenses for everything from duck houses to fucking biscuits.
Legitimately think we need the death penalty for corruption because it will always happen if there is low risk high reward. That's basic human psychology.
