Tipping is a bad joke

Tipping is a bad joke.

Essentially restaurants wash their hands clean and let the customer take the blame for the shit salary of their employees.

I never tip, except when I round up the bill, but then again my country has 12Euro/hour minimum wage and free healthcare/education.

What about you pol, do you tip?

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It's never done here.

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I tip if the service is exceptionally professional or if the waitress is a total QT with a nice personality.

With tips they usually make more than what theyre worth anyway.

>a total QT with a nice personality.
you are a literal beta cuck

There is a national minimum wage here so I feel a tip is for good service. So I will tip if someone does more than the average

> free healthcare and education
Yes, its free goyim.

>be young and poor
>free education and healthcae

>be older and make a decent wage
>pay taxes

No shit Sherlock. We cant all live off bank secrecy and Nazi gold.

I tipped a pizza guy once, fucking waste of 5 dollars

You should never ever tip.
>But it's not the waitress fault and she has a shit pay
Then, if nobody tips, being a waitress won't be viable and people will not do that job anymore, thus forcing employers to raise wages to bring back the work force.
I shouldn't have to pay extra because she's working for a Jew.

This again, it shouldn't be done here. It hurts the business as well when the waiter hands back the eftpos machine and cues for the customer to put a tip in. This is even more true when the waiter asks the customer before hand if they enjoyed everything. If the customer wants to tip they will make it known to you, then you will know if they are really happy or not. We get paid enough as waiters anything we earn beyond that, should be gratuitous for exceptional service.

This is a problem in Melbourne. The backpacker waiters think they should be tipped for no reason. They get upset when their tips are shit. They are lazy and incompetent (this is at waitering as well), but they still wonder why their tips are shit. They all believe there entitled to a bonus for being sub par.

ITS FUCKED you can't use 'tips' to measure performance and the customers experience any more.

With the exception of bad service i usualy I tip because it doesnt really hurt me. But i understand not tipping on principle or if you need the money.

Should've written

>No CHANGE in hell

>studies show people who make less tip more

not wanting to tip just means you are a jaded fuck

It's a fiver, what's the problem? Maybe if people started out in shitty service jobs they'd have a bit more compassion.

Seriously, why can't I just tell the fucking chef what I want, and just let me know when it's ready. I'll go get it from the kitchen. What a fucking joke of a profession. Bartenders too! Oh, you want 20% of my bar tab for pulling a handle and pouring a beer into a glass?!! What an extremely rare skill!

>it's okay when I Jew
>but when THEY Jew it's not

I always round down to the dollar between 10%-15% on a sliding scale towards 10% the higher the bill unless there was something specifically horrible.

I learned long ago that I don't need to question my actions or mannerisms in public with other people if I just keep it consistent within the norm. I don't have to worry about accidentally giving a bad tip or awkwardly internally debating what it should be.

I just factor it into the cost of eating out.

tips are sometimes split between everyone, so no matter who does a good or a bad job, everyone gets tipped the same, from the cook, to the waitress to the dish washer, to the preper

not tipping in restaurants is impolite and a sure sign of lower class upbringing.

Is it true that americans tip a man for cracking open a bottle and handing it to them in a bar?

The only reason to tip is if your waiter/waitress goes above the expectations she isn't required to do.

>You're a fucking ugly bitch. I want to stab you to death, and play around with your blood.

Restaurant going culture is one of the (((worst))) cultures imaginable

It's one of the things that FUELS rabid liberalism and MULTICULTURALISM.
It also teaches obedience and to attack anyone who thinks outside the rational "YOU MUST TIP THIS MUCH OR FUCK YOU"
Let the whole shithole die off. Most of the food is absolute garbage that people pretend is good.

No I don't want your shitty mass produced 3rd world crap that's sitting out all day in a heating pan

The practice of tipping only benefits people who don't tip. Everyone else would be better off if it didn't exist.

Don't know what it is like in Austria, but you're expected to tip in Germany.

you must tip x amount because your state has that calculated into your servers wage.
Get mad at the government for adopting stupid shit, not at the server.

Min wage for tipped employees is $2.12 an hour or something, and most make that.

you want to pay poor people higher wages? what kind of cuckold are you?

customers tip me. i tip waitresses and delivery who service me. give and take more or less.

Well... yes, that would be contingent with the concept of a tip, but if us Americucks avoid tipping, we are basically killing the business model and hurting the restaurant (and by extension, its employees) if we don't.

I'd love to reward good service properly but I basically have to go with 15%+[judged allocation of server performance]%

No, I'll stay mad at the culture.
It's all about teaching obedience and herd acceptance

yes

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I rarely eat out to begin with, so tipping is never an issue for me. I might eat at the same restaurant once every three years, and the odds of being seated with the same dumb bitch or that she'd even remember me are astronomical.

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Holy crap

What an amazing, magnanimous, generous person he is.

What a first class gent

>be spaghetti
>going to to Nebraska because reasons
>first breakfast the give me shitgallons of coffee and stuff
>and a bill
>a bill
>bill
>what on earth is “Bill:“ for?
>ask a waiter
>"nevermind"
>fewk ya cunt

I tip, if they work a job that pays less than minimum wage because they're wait-staff. That's it though. I am also not afraid to NOT tip someone if they are a piece of shit.

Beyond that, no I won't tip, and frankly, most of them make far more than minimum wage gives anyway. My ex gf was a waitress and she would make an easy $300 for a mere 8 hours of work on an average night. She was extremely entitled about it too, not just entitled like she deserved tips, but entitled like she deserved 50% on a bill and anyone who tipped less than that was a shitbag.

We used to argue a lot about that shit. Good times, good times...

Where did your bird go, Mexico?

>Min wage for tipped employees is $2.12 an hour or something, and most make that.

God damn it this is not how it works. If you don't get any tips your boss pays you the full minimum wage that any other profession is guaranteed. When you get enough tips that your boss can pay you less than minimum wage and you still come out over minimum wage he's allowed to pay you less, down the that two dollars and change minimum. Most waiters who aren't shit at their job make way more than minimum wage, but most of their money comes from tips. They also don't fucking pay taxes on the tips either. Stop crying for them faggot.

If it weren't for tips, there wouldn't be anyone willing to be servers in America. It's a job where you interact with dozens of insufferable cunts daily, but I wouldn't expect NEETs to understand how grueling that must be.

>I was really high one time and ordered papa johns online one or two minutes before close
>Still high when pizza guy arrives
>Have money for bill in one pocket and tip money in another
>Give pizza guy money
>ohboypizza2amstonedyeeeeeeeee
>Pizza guy gives me death glare I'll never forget
>Remember I forgot the tip while eating my pizza still stoned wondering why I got that glare
>lel

holy shit, as an american this makes me so angry

I used to work at a restaurant in the UK (YO Sushi) and everyone panicked when they brought in laws to tax ALL earnings including tip.

Obviously that makes no fucking sense since there is no way to predict how much tip you're going to get in a week. They actually started hiding the tip jar to avoid the taxman in case he came in.

So basically no one cared in the end because if we got a tip we were risking getting fucked because there is literally no point in declaring £25 extra earnings per week, sometimes it was better to have the peace of mind of no tip at all.

You're tipping either way.

If they're on welfare, you're paying for their well being

>but it's not my fault they are not payed enough

Okay when they raise the minimal wage, you pay the law makers who write and vote on the law. There for you're indicrectly tipping them by supporting people raising their wages.

Also what a snooby son of a bitch you must be to even not following through the courtesy of supproting someone who provides a good service

If they did not provide a good service of course you don't tip. You're not forced to tip but it's the polite thing to do and if don't tip in the name of "Oh it's not my fault they're underpaid" then people will judge.

If you don't support tipping, then you wouldn't support welfare either.

>"It's not my fault they made bad life choices so why should I pay for it"

If you're the kind to support welfare and be snobby on tipping, Please Kill your self.

TD:LR You're really fucking snobby op.

I wish i could tip the BoH staff instead.

Waiters are entitled gits that do 10% of the work involved in my meal.

Just tip if the service was above average or the waiter puts in above 51% effort. It's a pretty shitty job it's the least you could do. I tipped a guy behind a fish and chip counter the other day because he was working his off.

>order something for the first time
>tip generously
>order something for the second time
>same guy, really friendly, tip generously
>order something for the third time
>same guy, brings it up the stairs, asks what's up
>don't tip anything

fucking hell, we aren't best buddies!
I order something and you shut your mouth and do your job

Depends on tip culture.
I'm sure it happens in Aus casinos as it's the only place tipping happens regularly in mainland Europe.

Why? He waited one hour for his food. Why the fuck should you tip someone when you waited one hour for your food?

>go to expensive restaurant and/or pay for a bunch of people
>all of a sudden decide to be a miser
>don't tip
>be pretend jew instead of just eating at home to be a proper cheap person

How dare he assume you were amicable after giving good tips? He asked you how you were doing? The gall!

>Tip delivery guy
>Guy comes up.
>"Hello... young man?"
>Surprised I'm tipping as a lower 20 something year old because most people my age are entitled fucks
>Chat whenever he delivers.
It's 3-5 extra dollars, I'm not a jew.

this. the women at dennys though are really chatty and make me feel less lonely though, id tip them for making me feel welcome, but not for looks
i also hate tipping indians. they never smile and they give me that "hurry up" look

if I wanted to pay for human interaction I'd go to a whorehouse.
But what pissed me the most was that I said he should call when he's there (what he did the first 2 times) and he should wait downstairs

Not if you don't drink :)

If they don't make minimum wage then their employer is legally obligated to pay them the difference. Anybody who cries to you about how servers are paid too little is either lying to you or an ignorant victim who should sue. There is literally no reason to tip beyond philanthropy. How did this even become such a formal process?

I could never do that. 10 percent is what I give. It is there job,and if they live in a state where they get minimum wage not below and depends on tips that all I give

>I said he should call when he's there
I don't understand what you mean. Call when he comes upstairs, call when he has a shift?

this sounds fake. no millennial says "young man"

fuck off cuck

wew
>use online service to order food
>write instructions on how to deliver
>disregards instructions and invades private property
there's a gate but apparently someone forgot to lock it

Because bugging the chef while he's cooking fuckin sucks and pisses off the chef. You'd have people going up to a chef and asking stupid shit like "where are the restrooms!"

>not giving people extra money for no reason is rude

This is fake. Donald Trump himself said it was fake.

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I tip based on quality of service
if they bring my food swiftly, with a smile, and try their best to give me the best time I've ever had, I'll gladly tip them up to 20%

if they're some stuck up brat that acts like a self entitled shit, they can go fuck themselves, and can go eat shit when I talk with their boss.

I see no reason to fuck over the waitress/waiter if they're genuinely trying to make your meal enjoyable

I usually tip like round up to the next full € or round up +1€

You know it's their job to give you good service and smile and bring your food swiftly? You're paying them more for doing their job description.

It was my job to swiftly pick your objects off the shelves abd make sure your total order was correct at amazon warehouse last year. Do I get more money?

Fuck bonuses, fuck commissions, fuck any kind of monetary awards outside base pay rate.

In a tipping country, not tipping is wrong when provided with at least decent service. Restraints cut wages because tipping is allowed (on top of which tips get taxed). So seriously pay your due percent to the server.

US ain't Europe so respect that until it is.

Why do you have tip separate. Thats crap.

we should get rid of tipping but until it's actually gotten rid of, you should pay the person their due.

I like you.

These people are payed under minimum wage because they are expected to rely on tips. Just stop being a dirty kike and literally nothing can go wrong.

Restaurants are also required to pay them minimum wage.

>giving extra to the kikes

Can you show me the law, where it states that tipping is mandatory?

Yeah, but if they're being tipped, then they don't. Restaurant service is far from minimum wage work, but the tips fuck the whole system up, just pretend like you're paying the amount you should be paying and don't shift the burden onto other

father taught me to tip high, especially if it's a place you frequent.

then when you return with a hot date or a business client, the staff treats you like royalty and you impress whoever you're with, and thus you seal the deal.

but i guess nerdvirgins/peasants don't have to worry about that kinda thing

You should fuck off. "Tipping" is not an American thing, it's the way for fucking Applebees to juice more money out of you. Americans are smarter than to give their fucking hard-earned cash over to moneygrubbing J*ws.

This. Tip services because then they'll only do better next time you see them.

Why would I need to pay to impress people?

Theyre usually impressed by my looks/charisma.

Except the fact that if they dont make at least minimum wage their employer has to pay it, tipping is reserved for exceptional service and nothing less

I only tip whites

>Applesbees
>owned by jews

It's not about patrons getting mad, they should just stop tipping completely and put the onus on the restaurant employee to get mad and demand more.

I want every restaurant in North America to hang signs outside that say "Our menu prices have increased to make up for the fact that we will no longer accept tips under any circumstances." and then when I go eat, I know I won't have to pay a tip even if it means I'm paying $15 for my burger instead of the old $12.50 price. Only now you fucking waiters will get the $8/hour you deserve and you can shut the fuck up about your $2.12/hour wage and won't have to beg for tips ever again.

"tipping" as a dining practice is bullshit. Nobody says you can't "tip" (i.e. give) money to anyone you want when you feel generous. Unexpected tipping is great feeling on both sides.

When it becomes "expected", it loses the magic, and the lack of tip creates animosity.

Once again, the fucking Jews ruin everything

Tipping as mandatory is basically an American thing, I would prefer it didn't exist because then I could tip for actual good service instead of tipping as welfare.
Basically in the US restaurants pay servers below minimum wage and then they make up for it in tips.
If you're against that practice, for any reason, you're kind of in between a rock and a hard place. If you don't tip, you're hurting the staff and not the restaurant, and it makes you a bad person in everyone's eyes. If you do tip, you're helping the staff, but also helping the practice that's fucking them over (plus kike-ass greeks own a ton of eating establishments here in the US, and are known to just pocket their staff's tips, or they redistribute them all which means the hardworking ones waiting tables to get through college get their extra tips distributed to lazy negresses and food spitters)
Best option is really just to not eat at businesses which employ this trick to lower menu prices.
I'd really they rather just chuck an extra dollar dollars to menu prices and raise the pay by a dollar.

No, they do. If employees who rely on tipping don't make minimum wage then the employer is legally obligated to make up the difference.

looks and charisma are one aspect of impressing someone, and we weren't discussing that.

a handsome charismatic bum would be less successful than a handsome charismatic rich man

The waiter wasn't the one taking so long to cook it.

>already gave a ton of money to the fucking restaurant
>this means I'm supposed to dish out more money or eat at home

Eat a dick honestly. Not a fucking charity, I already give a ton of money to your fucking jew boss, I'm not personally responsible for your salary.

Boy are you in for a surprise once you actually swallow the red-pill.

Except it isn't, they're only obligated to bring you your food and collect your payment, all the kindness and service with a smile shit is an added bonus.

Canadian servers have it really good

American-style tipping on top of $12+/hour minimum wage (varies from province to province)

This.
Make it white males.