"South Park sucks now because it's so politicized. I prefer the old episodes with their random humor."

"South Park sucks now because it's so politicized. I prefer the old episodes with their random humor."

Why don't special snowflakes just admit that they're mad with South Park making fun of them now?

There's a difference between offending everyone you know with an entertaining story tacked on and vice versa.

The series still make episodes with entertaining story. Unless you have shitty standards for "entertainment".

The older episodes were better not because they were "less political", but because they were about laughing with people who care about things instead of laughing at people who care about things. When the show because libertarian centrist "you're not cool if you care" bullshit, it stopped being as funny. It came to a head with last season because they tried to go "Douche vs Turd" and found out that mocking a turd means nothing when the alternative is the apocalypse.

They went back to "silly" episodes this season because trying to do their nihilistic centrist schtick would not have worked. Not caring about shit is no longer an option - and neither is mocking people who do give a shit.

Season 19 was great because it focused less on current events and focused more on specific topics like political correctness culture and advertisements
20 was shit because they fully wrote out at plot but tried to tie it down to current events like the election and it ended up being a mess

The most recent episode went back to that random humor, and as far as I've seen, Sup Forums liked it.
I personally give it an 8/10, if only because the Marcus plot ended suddenly.

Was that Marcus Preston kid in the newest episode a reference to something? I feel like he was.

While I still enjoy the new episodes, I still like the earlier episodes a bit more. Not because there was less "politics" but because they did a better job masking their commentary about the current events without it being completely blantant or being the sole point of the episode

Southpark works best when it's political, but the topic is something that doesn't alienate or pick sides.

Snowflake being used as an insult still amuses me. People these days genuinely hate the idea of induvidualism itself.

What's the matter? Get triggered with the term "snowflake"?

Look at how quick we can reference current trends in our cartoons before any other cartoon does it!

Like all generic buzzword insults it originally had an actual meaning.

I liked it better when it focused on the boys, the juxtaposition of adult topics and situations and the boys reacting to them in a way a kid would was hilarious. The constant Randy episodes is what killed it for me, he's become what Bender was in the last few seasons of Futurama.

This game is great. Also post buttholes

You mean
>S19 was great because it made fun of topics I hated and laughed at!
>S20 was shit because they made fun of dwwumphff and things I liked >:C

Honestly i think 19 and 20 share many of the same issues and 19 is honestly getting pretty overrated, but ultimately 19 paid it off at the end whereas 20 ended up doing a mad unsatisfying last second scramble due the election being what it was.

And don't even pretend like Trumpfags didn't like 20 at the start when it was "LOL, TROLLS ARE ORDINARY SUCCESSFUL PEOPLE", and "FUCK YEAH GENDER WAR", it was actually mainly the member berries that turned people off before the election derail, and that was before they started with their political shit.

Seriously, sometimes i think you other anons have the memory of goldfish.

No the plot of the season relies super heavily on the election and then when they get the outcome they werent planning on they threw everything out the window and had no idea how to fucking end the season.

Every episode of this season i have hated until yesterdays episode. It was just a fun episode about old people being drug dealers in nursing houses.

>LOL, TROLLS ARE ORDINARY SUCCESSFUL PEOPLE

That was actually one of the better things that season did. Trolls arent always the sterotype you imagine them they are just assholes like Kyles dad and while everyone else is arguing and going crazy over shit they just get to sit and enjoy it.

"FUCK YEAH GENDER WAR" I wish this plot actually went somewhere but because Hillary lost fuck it the plot doesn't matter apparently.

>libertarian centrist
You people are trying really hard to stigmatize people for not being brainwashed by your respective cult. At least there's one thing tumblr and Sup Forums can agree on I guess.

Sure, take a gander at my Butthole.

South park was very loose before. It would use a topic like the rainforests being destroyed and instead of beating us over the head with all the real world shit like the modern episodes do, they just used the issue as a base and wrote a fun episode about it. South Park crawled up it's own ass a long time ago and forgot about having fun with the message instead of being another mouthpeice for it.

I don't blame people for making threads like these though, same shit happened with Simpsons where people couldn't accept that it just wasn't as good as it used to be and look where we are now.

>Not caring about shit is no longer an option
actually it is the only option

if this past year has taught us anything its that pandering to people that will never be happy with anything you do is a waste of time
you will get more done by doubling down with the people that have your back and disregarding anyone that wants to bring you down just for the sake of making you fall

What was your preferred party?

When I basically had my pick of characters later on went with Call Girl, Mysterion and Professor Chaos.
All basically being 'Outsiders' like the new kid; Call Girl and Mysterion actually being interested in fighting crime/being the only superfriend with actual powers like you and Chaos being the villain that operated outside of the normal groupings.

Towards the end I found Butters less useful and tended to switch him out, my last team member then became Captain Diabetes who as well as being able to do some good damage while tanking at the same time I also felt closer to character-wise because of the whole chapter with them earlier on.

>South Park
>centrist
This was never the case.

>special snowflakes
Reappropriating an Alt Right term probably means you're a special snowflake yourself, you know

>Honestly i think 19 and 20 share many of the same issues
like?

>south park
>libertarian centrist
no not really

God you kike park fans are just like Rick and Morty fans.

>special snowflakes

that's been a mocking term for just about a decade long before the Alt Right language appeared last year.

>a libertarian calling someone else brainwashed

thats a laugh.

You can't really ever be insulted, unless you allow your Ego to be insulted. Ego within itself is a facsimillie, a temporary thing within temporary physicality. In this we have a limited Freedom to like, dislike what we choose to like and dislike, for either personal reasons or social ones. And yes sometimes we forget that Ego is temporary, so sometimes people get insulted, but as long as you remember "This is temporary, everyone is going to die and one day there won't be a single sentient thing living on this planet" then you'll be okay. That is the fun part of being a temporary being, you are going to die someday, and so will the other temporary beings who co exist beside you. You can change being insulted, but you can't change the fact that you, and everyone else is going to die. It's rather quite fun to explain that to other people, and watch their faces drop as the realization hits in, that "Oh, I have limited Freedom; have I done everything I've wanted to?"

When will people learn that centrism doesn't just mean making fun of both far-lefts and far-rights.

I honestly don't even think Matt and Trey are even libertarians anymore, considering recent seasons have generally shown they're more left leaning than they were a decade ago.

user pls it’s just not working. “Centrist” as an insult just kinda flops.

It also means fragile and weak that melts with just the slightest of heat, not just unique. Hence Special Snowflake.

if anything i'm triggered with the lack of creativity in insults these days
if you're going to offend people at least try to be funny or clever

projecting or...?

they're not even making it about the kids anymore. the kids are tools for their "punk rock political agenda". if you had listened to one of their commentaries from incredibly old seasons you would have heard from them BOTH, matt and trey, that they would eventually run out of ideas and figuratively molest the boys which is WHAT THEY'RE DOING RIGHT NOW.

no, south hasn't been good for atleast three seasons now.

I've watched their commentaries for the early seasons. I remember the first episode of every season from 3 through to 7 or 8 was them saying "this is better than last season. this is where we feel we've hit our stride". In fact, half the commentary for Season 3 episode 1 was "season 2 was garbage".

Feeling insult, anger, or outrage is no terrible thing. To change your belief in something every time you start to feel insulted, in order to insulate yourself from these bad feelings is to say you never believed in anything at all. And to have no belief in any value is to be a nihilist who is as good as dead already.
Feeling insulted is human.
But then again you could say feeling insulted by a cartoon is really pointlessly dumb. Which is the point of this thread.

i honestly think those proto seasons with no self-awareness were hit or miss but harmless fun regardless.

I'm saying what's the point of feeling human when there is so much to your existence than the physical container that you reside in? I mean sure its fun to let the Physical Body have its go and feel its ups and downs, but you really shouldn't forget that you are a non physical controller that is trapped inside that Physical Body.

I'm not a nihilist in any sense, I guess you can say I'm a cultist of Dualism, and someone who has made the realization that the Physical Flesh and Conscious Self are two seperate, yet interconnected things.

As a Conscious and Virtual Self trapped inside of Physical Flesh, I try not to let my Physical Flesh influence me on a deeper level. You say to feel is to be Human; and I say "There is more than just being Human."

Getting insulted by anything is kind of dumb, and letting it effect you on a personal level is also kind of dumb. But to feel is to be Human; to think beyond this is to be Metallo I suppose.

>cultist of Dualism
Wait I don't know you from somewhere do I...
Your first post made it sound like you were just some rick and morty fan or something. But I see what you're saying and the sense it makes.
I can't agree that there's anything more than being human. To transcend past humanity and emotions is to lose value, or the reason to search for value. Which is what I believe is the impossible and only task we have as sentient beings.

I was clearly insulting libertarians, not "centrists" and the term "libertarian centrist" is a contradiction as libertarianism is either radically socialist (in it's original meaning) or radically reactionary.(in it's retarded Ameriburger meaning).

You might know me from /x/ or different websites. Or even IRL since I'm quite outspoken about the revelation of Self within Flesh. I'm really not sure what the process really entails, its not a transcending beyond, but rather a humbling down; to be like water.

I believe Humanity is simply a temporary means to understand Conscious Self, and while being Human has its perks, we shouldn't let it define who we are as a Conscious Entity within Flesh.

Essentially, I'm in the belief that being Human can lead to the deception of that's all you really are. You identify with your Human Given name and say "This is my existence", not realizing that that is the existence given unto you to manifest in. Who you really are isn't "John" or "Mary" but the thing that manifested as "John" or "Mary" and resides within it. There is this concept of the connection between Physical Flesh and Self called the Mind; one of its defenses is Ego (or Identity)[Not in relation to Freud's Ego/ID/Superego) Essentially, the Mind creates the Identity, The Conscious Self is the acting force of this and your Flesh body acts accordingly, therefore creating a feedback loop that says "I am John, I am Mary."
What I believe in is that The Mind and Body are temporary means of existence, and The Conscious Self, the force, the energy if you will inside you can be supplemented with any Mind and Body and therefore is the truest version of yourself. It is not an ascension, but a surrender of everything that makes up Ego/Identity, "A death of You, to be reborn as your Actual You." In a way we lose value as Humans, but once you realize this is true for all things, then you will realize that You at your purest form are but a single piece of a great Consciousness, and that you and it are inseperable. "A droplet falls from the ocean and becomes a puddle; over time the puddle becomes a lake, the lake becomes an ocean and merges with its original sea." Namaste

Ah okay you sounded like someone Bern.
Your view of reality sounds very eastern. Like Daoism, but I only know the surface level of that stuff.
It's interesting. I enjoy my individualism, love it enough to want to reject being a part of a bigger whole, a part of the ocean. If what you say is true then it sounds like hell to me haha. But that dread of not having a true self is just another part of my human emotion.

>It came to a head with last season because they tried to go "Douche vs Turd" and found out that mocking a turd means nothing when the alternative is the apocalypse.

You know, I was feeling pretty shitty this morning reading about Trump's latest idoidicy about calls to service members. Thanks for reminding me that the alternative was unthinkably worse.

The name given to me does not match this, however I am glad to know there are others who believe similar.
My view of reality is pretty much Daoism and Bhuddism, mixed in with Western Philosophies.

Although I do have to warn you about the path you've chosen; eventually you will have to part with your individualism. The more attached you are to your individuality, the more painful the process will be, and it would be like a Hell. Ego Death in Physical Death is a suffering unexplainable, so please remember my words during that time. You'll eventually come to be again, perhaps as a Human, perhaps as something else; I don't know these things in this current form. You cannot escape this as much as you cannot escape Death of the Physical form.

There is a way to escape this for a time, however it only makes the inevitibility even worse. There is a concept that you could remove yourself from your Flesh and inhabit another form, whether that form is Organic or Non Organic really depends on the technology. However, this is simply prolonging the inevitable, as all things will return to the Singular Consciousness, and by undertaking such a selfish means of Ego Defense will make the already difficult process of Ego Death/Surrender even more difficult (especially if done of volition unto an unwilling Organic vessel)

The other possibility is even worse, not being able to return whatsoever and evaporating into nothingness. What I stated before is a bit of a Hellish process, but there is constant Existence in this. If you cannot return, then you will never exist again, your Conscious Self lost because of the desires and defenses of a Temporary means. This would be a tragedy beyond tragedy, as all things within the Great Consciousness would lose a part of themselves.

Relax in this time you have, and know that one day you will have to walk away from it. This is not the end, but a new beginning.

Thanks for your concern.
If death is to happen to me I'd very much like for it to be physical as well as of the soul. Returning to this soul ocean is not for me. Such is my attachment to my self that I'd welcome escape from any cycle. Death, true death with the destruction of the consciousness is a door that we can never see past. It's only frightening in that it's unknown. Whereas an existence of endless reincarnation is devoid of meaning. Those who live within the cycle might find meaning in their day to day lives and deaths, simply being. But if you become aware of the cycle it forces you ask the question "why? For what purpose am I even given thought?". What if you retained your memories every time you died and were reborn? Wouldn't you find it terribly mundane?
Meaning can't be found within the world but it has to be found outside of it. To exit through the door called death is to leave the boundary of the world and ask the world itself what it's purpose is.

THE NEWEST EPISODE WAS OLD SCHOOL SOUTH PARK YOU RETARDS WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT

This is where Eastern philosophies and I disagree; What you seek is Nirvana, a removal from the system of life and death all together; I believe such a thing to be a form of Hell, that the Soul Ocean constitutes all of Existence, and to be removed from it is to be in a state of absolute Nothingness.

Striving for Nirvana isn't wrong, however striving for it for the defense of Temporal Identity is akin to casting stones unto the lake, wishing for a typhoon.

You and I are two different sides of a similiar coin. You wish to unexist for the sake of Temporal Identity, I wish to exist for the sake of forgone Temporal Identity; its quite the Yin and Yan.

Also the problem you have described is the ultimate problem of Daoism, Absolutionism vs Annihilationism, One states that "No matter what you do, you are going to return to your basest form and return to the Soul Ocean to be drawn from again in a new form, for as long as it continues to exist. The other problem is Annihilationism, that without the Soul Ocean, all instances of you, of your awareness are moot, and that outside of this lays absolute nothingness, a terror beyond terror.

Fortunantly, to make the process easier, the memories are annihilated with each instance (as memories are simply imprints on Physicality, and thus are lost if not retained in some form) I have died many times before this, and I will continue to die many times after this; however its worth it because of that moment of Unity within the Soul Ocean, where I am and know everything. I too would like to escape the cycle of Life and Death; to remain in the Soul Ocean, however I do not believe that is my decision to make. Oddly enough, it would seem that the Soul Ocean has its own Will outside of the Individual, perhaps why there is the instance of life being granted, for there cannot be multiple instances of Will within the Soul Ocean.

Again, all speculation, but I am glad to talk to someone about this sort of thing.

Is he trying to say PC Principal is making fun of us? That's silly, you're silly, OP.

Counterpoint: South Park was always shit to begin with.

You literally cannot refute this.

Maybe because they're no longer funny...? Newest episode showed signs of improvement, but watching through these fast few seasons have almost been an absolute slog to sit through.

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Why would I try to refute your chickenshit opinion? I hate it when people pretend not to understand what subjective means.

>PC principal
>not making fun of Sup Forumsmblr
wew. He's laughing at you, not with you, Miss Snowflake.

Because almost everyone is tired of seeing politics shoehorned everywhere these days.

South Park has been getting worse since season 9. It became pure shit season 13 and has been since.

Ive been liking it. The DC comics joke from last week had me in stitches

Actually, even as a big bad Sup Forumsfag, the trump jokes were good this most recent season, and the Russia bit was funny too.
I just really, really hate 'memberberries, nostalgia wasn't the catalyst for populism's recent resurgence, and they're in the divet of repetition between funny and "so grating and annoying it's funny again".
Also so far in FBW they've listed shit that definitely still exists, like Capri Sun.

He looks like something out of Eyes Wide Shut, I love my lil' weirdo.

Yeah and the plot with them was interesting right up until "lol nazis!" and then it fading like dew in the morning sun.

Idk maybe people trying to reclaim an economy that's gone could be viewed as nostalgia, trump sure is lying his ass off about coal's glory days returning.

The whole point is that, much like the myth that no two snowflakes are alike us false, special snowflakes try to be unique but end up adopting incredibly similar mannerisms.

Yeah the gender war was actually interesting and something I'd have liked them to cover.

>The whole point is that, much like the myth that no two snowflakes are alike us false.

Wait, it is? Really?

>Not knowing that the word "Snowflake" is a term for person of color.

It's like you don't watch the news. Besides Anime is life.

u wot m8

nah, it means try hard attention whore.

Hello fellow crusader.

What the fuck are you talking about you literal double nigger?

The spectrum of human thought and behavior is much more narrow than idealists and optimists believe.

Can't beat the biting satire of two rich white men mocking people who want to make a difference and asking what the problem is because THEY feel equal though!

either way war is happening
why would you think otherwise

I can though
my arguments is: I think it is fun but it has its bad episodes of course what doesn't, and if you personally think its not funny thats fine
different strokes for different folks

im watching season 21 right now.

are tweek and craig actually gay now?

Yep.

The forced lore and DeviantArt-tier shipping is worse than any of the political and pop culture satire.

South Park is nearly unwatchable now. Slowly approaching post-cancelation Family Guy levels of bad. The Lorde shit was bad, the Trump shit was bad, and the Cartman's girlfriend shit is bad. I think the only decent episode in the past three seasons is naughty ninjas.

It hasn't been good in awhile, but they really took a nosedive in season 19. They can't get into continuity, any joke that lasts for more than one episode is absolute dogshit. They should have left it the way it was.

I DESIRE DUBS

>Season 13
>shit

Did they drastically change Craig's character at some point? I'd swear after this yaoi episode (hell maybe even earlier than that) he's a different guy altogether.

Literally the only thing wrong with modern southpark is the continuity.

Having a story build until the end of a season is stupid as fuck for cable as a medium.

The strength of southpark was every episode could be taken individually and still be hilarious.

>Implying it was not politicized before
Also,
This.

But the only season where every episode cant be watched individually is season 20. Season 18 and 19 were still mostly standalone affairs, just without always relying on status quo.
Season 21 isnt even doing much continuity at all.

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To be fair, you have to have a high IQ to appreciate South Park

So what if they're running out of ideas and continuity helps them to joke about the same thing multiple times? Cartman's reaction to Heidi in the new season is already a running gag.

Great filename by the way

No, nigga. the consensus is that S20 is shit because It wasn't funny. Politics had little to do with it.

My opponent is a liar!