So Sup Forums, your thoughts on politicized fan art? Ain't it just cringey that people these days just have to make fan art of cartoons and fictional media/settings just to make and or spread some political agenda they advocate for?
While at the same sometimes it's just sad that said people are good or decent fan artists who do make pretty drawings.
Sauce of pic related:
>smiling-grouch.tumblr.com
Also this shit too:
>smiling-grouch.tumblr.com
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Anyone have those 9/11 fanart pics? You know the ones.
What’s wrong with saying Nazis are bad? Forget fan art mainstream cartoons and comics have been doing this for years. If that triggers you go back to Sup Forums. Also are you really surprised that so many artists aren’t conservatives.
> cartoons and comics have been doing this for years. If that triggers you go back to Sup Forums
It's just the fact that artist have to use cartoons to "represent" and or project political views. Frankly any artist's entitled to their political opinion, but dear lord do not bring any cartoon shit into this and or jsut stick to drawing nice shit.
And don't tell me there's also 911 r34...
MLP ANTIFA banners and posters.
That is all.
why
can't we stop
can we just have one fucking day
one fucking day without this polticial faggotry
can't you all just drink bleach
can't you all just eat some ground glass
can't you stop
why can't you be stopped
where are our mods
why can't this end
why can't there be some comic book site free of this shit so i can quit you
i hate this so much
i want it to stop
Kill all culture wars fags. This is a site for obsessing over naked cartoons and telling edgy jokes, fuck off.
One day we might see radical centrists rise, and THANK GOD when that day finally comes.
>What’s wrong with saying Nazis are bad?
because you're sending incredibly loading rhetorical question, disguised as message against hate.
when you have all sorts of people running around and calling everyone the "natzis", guys are sending messages about beating up ebil nazis that isn't directly aimed at people who are accused of being nazis and you can't deliver any rebuttal against them while at the same time antifa types of guys are absolved of consequences of beaing up random people because they're fighting against the very evil nazis.
do you see the problem now? this is the exact same thing that happened to jews in germany - they were dehumanized and you weren't allowed to defend them because it would mean you supported underage prostitution and ruined economy
Wanna know what's worse than political fanart? Political fetish art.
>tfw ballbusting fetish
>ballbusting nazis from fetish artists everywhere
>ballbusting studios where the guy wears a trump mask
French people has no right to ever talk about "free speech" when there's no such thing in the Frnech constitution to begin with.
>hate speech is not free speech
>FIGHT WHITE POWER
To put this in another perspective: Imagine if Andrew Dobson decides who should be put to death because they are "nazis"
Then nothing changes for me.
If Antifa wins then it's a bunch of spoiled white kids telling me what to think and feel and do and treating me like a pet to be coddled but not an equal.
If the alt-right wins then it's a bunch of spoiled white geriatrics telling what to think and feel and do and treating me like a subhuman to be put down but not an equal.
And if I don't choose either of them then I'm a centrist fencesitter that's too afraid to choose a side.
All I fucking want is to look at cartoon titties. I pay my taxes, I don't hurt anybody. Can't you all just fuck off and leave me alone?!
Oh don't get me wrong. I'm with you. I look forward to the day when radical centrist somehow become a thing.
Hate speech is promoting violence against people right?
So how is screeching "punch nazis" not hate speech.
Because "Nazis" are evil people to be dehumanised
Like niggers according to Sup Forums
>Because "Nazis" are evil people to be dehumanised
this is true though? like it's an ideology that promotes genocide
>What’s wrong with saying Nazis are bad?
This shit is the same weasel-word shit as when die-hard feminists say "Feminism just means that you believe that men and women are equal"
It's meant as a way of forcing you to concede that you "Basically agree with them about the basics" so they can then load all the other bullshit on.
With feminism all that other bullshit takes the form of Patriarchy theory, "rape culture", the Duluth theory of domestic violence and so on.
With this "But don't we all agree that nazis are bad" shit, the other bullshit comes in the form of normalizing violence and deplatforming of anyone and everyone the extreme left can manage to slap the label of "Nazi" onto.
It's especially insidious since they'll widen the label of "Nazi" even further by claiming that anyone who is "Alt-Right" is "Basically the same as a Nazi" and then go onto accuse basically fucking anyone, even harmless faggots like Jontron, of being "alt-right" because they said some shit they didn't like.
Premise A: Fighting Nazis with any and all means, including violence, is okay and even commendable
Premise B: Anyone I disagree with is a Nazi
Conclusion: Using violence against anyone I disagree with is okay
>like it's an ideology that promotes genocide
lol good one.
>Also this shit too:
>smiling-grouch.tumblr.com
Why the hell are politically correct left wingers so outraged and scared over those right wing protesters holding torches while marching? Not trying to sympathize or say I'm some full right wing guy. But thse torch weilding guys were just marching while holding those "scary" torches for symbolic purposes if I remember correctly. It's the 1st fucking ammendment that allows them to legally do so after all.
Also I'm pretty sure Chat Noir would NEVER assault some harmless right wing protester who's marching around with a torch. Unless said protester goes around burning shit with said torch like ANTIFA would, there should be no reason to assault an innocent person practicing their 1st ammendment.
Also again with this: smiling-grouch.tumblr.com
-Chat would have been fucking arrested by cops for, you know? Assault and Battery?
Probably because of the lack of reciprocity.
But nobody ever wants to talk about why, for example, California has such strict gun control laws, because then the extremely blatant double standards might come to light.
Stay in school kid, don't become a fanatical murderer like this guy.
>Can't you all just fuck off and leave me alone?!
If only it were so easy. But just look at the OP. "Silence is complacency!" Unless you actively protest a side, you'll be put against the wall just like everyone else. So you better slaughter a lamb and paint your door with its blood if you wish to be spared either end of the spectrum's wrath.
So does Islam but criticizing that gets you thrown in jail for hate speech depending on where you live.
better more recent example
>gamergate happens
>entire shebang was caused by women and trannies and their beta orbiters
>if you support gamergate you're an evil misogynist who rapes womyn
>if you don't aggre with Zoe or Anita you're a gamergater
therefore siding with Zoe and Anita is the only choice for decent people
The difference being Jews didn't have a reason to be persecuted.
Nazis need to be taken out back and shot for political beliefs.
If you think to build a strong nation you need one strong race, and that alternate religions or philosophies are degenerate, or that black people are naturally predisposed to a higher crime rate, hate to fucking say it but you're a nazi. Maybe a nazi wearing different clothes, but you can't call them euphemisms like alt right
You can always make up reasons.
>What’s wrong with saying Japs are bad? Forget fan art mainstream cartoons and comics have been doing this for years. If that triggers you go back to Sup Forums. Also are you really surprised that so many artists aren’t conservatives.
That's your response to that? Jesus.
Japanese people aren't the same as Nazis. One is an entire people, Nazis are part of a political spectrum.
This is the last post I'm gonna say about it.
So you support killing people for thought crimes?
What happens when you're on the smoking side of the barrel for YOUR political beliefs?
And don't get me wrong, I despise nazis and their retarded ideology. Just like I despise any form of collectivism. But they should be free to think and even say whatever the fuck they want, and the social consequences they'd face should be fitting for what they do.
Freedom > Ideologies.
Because Nazi basically means dissenter and traitor to the left at this point.
Plus the term has been thrown around so god damn much its lost all meaning. It could mean anything
It's the truth.
This fucking board, full of autistic lefties
During Nazi Germany, everyone who was living in nazi germany was a nazi.
Remember that the united states gave zero fucks about WW2 and was well aware of what was going on in Europe at the time but didn't engage until the nation of japan attacked them.
Not a political idea or a political group.
what happens with that freedom though? They're given a platform. I honestly am ok with current system, where government and universities allow free speech and people have the right to shout them down. Like Spencer yesterday. Like now.
How long until all that freedom becomes laws that screw someone else over? That's the thing that nobody ever wants to address. Yeah, you might even disavow the individual guys that move from speech to shooting up a church, but what about when thought and speech start turning into policy?
Prove the Holohoax happened.
Pro-tip: you can't
If Captain America hated nazis, he hated the japs more.
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There's nothing wrong with saying nazis are bad, the problem is there have been lots of people that throw nazi/fascist/racist/sexist/etc at people that aren't actually nazi/fascist/racist/sexist/etc.
This is what we call, "conjecture."
>During Nazi Germany, everyone who was living in nazi germany was a nazi.
No, some where just scared, kept their heads down, tried to get on with their lives and hoped Nazism would pass.
They never believed in the ideology - they just feared the power of the Nazi government.
I prefer what they did to Norman Rockweiller. That's the right way to do it. The wrong way was to burn the whole town and start riots like what ANTIFA did.
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>people have the right to shout them down
Thing is, when you cut out someone's tongue, you only show the world you fear what they have to say.
Plus if Spencer really is a retard then let him speak and then refute his points.
Nazi Germany was a nation at that point.
How legitimate it was or whether it deserved to be is a totally different argument.
But besides the point. The ideology didn't gas millions of jews. An ideology didn't bomb pearl harbor. People did. And no matter where you want to draw the line - America interned the japanese and german alike for fear of the exact same thing you espouse.
Like Norman Rockweller. They booed him, refuted him and made him a laughing stock AFTER he spoke. NOT DURING.
It's only conjecture because it hasn't happened to you yet. That's not the case for others.
Provably untrue bullshit.
The percentage of the German population that didn't swallow the NatSoc koolaid was vanishingly small.
Belief in Nazi ideology was as common in Nazi Germany as belief that the earth is round is in modern America, you can find people who don't believe it, but they're not exactly statistically significant.
I think you need to look up the word conjecture.
Christianity, Islam and some sects of judaism do that too. In the end, most of the people who follow them are indoctrinated, and in the end humans too.
I'm not going to argue that nazi leaders were evil, but dehumanizing people was the first thing they did to others. But are you going to tell me that a nazi housewife who doesn't bother with politics, but benefits from the change is also evil?
>what happens with that freedom though? They're given a platform.
And they make asses out of themselves like Spencer did when he got triggered over fucking college football. Deplatforming them creates a Streisand effect and gives their ideology the power to "scare" people. Give them the rope so they can hang themselves, debate them, shit on their ideas, mock them, defuse their words instead of turning them into ideological TNT that triggers people who can't be challenged. But let people see how stupid they are by themselves instead of giving second hand information.
That freedom is absolute as long as speech and thought go. If someone goes full American History X, he goes to jail. That's why the law sets clear boundaries.
>but what about when thought and speech start turning into policy?
Personal policy? Nothing, unless they want to break the law.
A policy that affects laws? That's exactly what I want to prevent. Take away people's freedom to "be nazis", but one day someone on the other side of the political spectrum will use that precedent to fuck you over.
>you fear what he has to say
Duh. That shit is toxic. Poisoned propaganda.
>ugh, isn't it pathetic how liberals have to signal their support and slap their views and politics onto everything?!
>*photoshops maga hat and shitty faux 80s aesthetic on a loli*
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We're fighting commies too lest they forget.
>ITT: crossboarders from the Alt-Hero thread
So you admit that dissenters existed, then claim the statement that they existed was false.
Bravo Sup Forums bravo
the picture in the OP is horrendous
This. Richard Spencer's no monster. If anything, he's a lolcow. He should be treated like Chris Chan, not an invading dragon.
>During Nazi Germany, everyone who was living in nazi germany was a nazi.
Holy fuck this is retarded. The Nazis were a political party just like Republicans or Democrats. Trump being President and the Republicans holding all of the political power doesn't automatically make every American a Republican.
Hate speech is freedom of speech though
>Take away people's freedom to "be nazis", but one day someone on the other side of the political spectrum will use that precedent to fuck you over.
They already do that tho.
>implying there's anything wrong with fighting nazis and commies
I meant to put the word in quotation marks.
I'm saying it's not conjecture. I'm saying it's already happened hundreds of times and now it's only a problem because it might happen to the cultural majority for once.
If we get nuked my being a part of the opposition party will be of great solace.
What you are presenting your greatest fear as is democratic process.
Further, I've yet to see what you're insisting be proven - You've insisted.
ANTIFA supports deplatforming because they themselves have no confidence in their own beliefs. If they knew how to debate, Richard Spencer wouldn't be this boogeyman that they feared so much.
I say all socialists must hang
If what he says is patently wrong, then you should be able to explain why easily without resorting to threats and violence.
You'll have to excuse me for being afraid of the democratic process, since it didn't even consider me fully human until relatively recently.
>California has such strict gun control laws
I don't understand. How can the state that hates guns also have the oddest wet dreams of violent resistance against Trump?
I find it odd that you think a voting age is the same as not treating you as a human.
Well, debate is kind of against the AntiFa spirit. They're openly anarchists, they don't give a shit about discussion or logic.
In a fantasy analogy, they're like night goblins.
>night goblins
I hate to sound stupid, but, what's a night goblin as opposed to a regular goblin?
Is it a goblin...at night?
Was your recognition as human granted by a violent dictatorship or by the democratic progress you fear?
You're pretending to be retarded.
"Everyone in Nazi germany was a Nazi" is a generalization and like all generalizations it is false in the strictest sense since there are exceptions to everything.
That doesn't mean it isn't accurate because it was still FUNCTIONALLY true.
"Some where just scared" is more weasel-word shit because it phrased in a way that would imply that not only was dissent far more common than it actually was, but that the presence of this tiny minority of dissenters should or could have changed the way America responded to the actions of Nazi germany.
Come the fuck on, you're a lefty, you guys are the ones that go on and on about dog-whistles and people having secret agendas, you should know this stuff.
maybe the left has no grasp on reality
They don't hate guns, they want a monopoly on guns.
Reality is fucking shit.
Depends on who you ask.
These are normal goblins.
Weak, cowardly and hang out with big orcs and wolves to get muscle.
>political fan art is okay if i agree with it because we are hypocrites
there, i saved you all the replies
Do you actually know why they hate guns?
It's because the black panthers started buying them en masse. Turns out the second amendment is actually scary once those dastardly Negros try and exercise their rights to it.
And that's still not as bad as Oregon.
These are Night Gobbos.
Less retarded, crazed cultists who love to charge in black blocks to fight and give even less of a shit about each other, actually, for them it's a good thing to have their friends dying because they can use that to enrage their peers and inspire them to fight.
They're so sneaky you can't see them in that post, I totally didn't forget my pic like a retard.
For some reason I was expecting black, or greyish skinned goblins.
Like nightkin.
>hate speech is not free speech
Is the artist retarded?
Maybe they're British
The point is we are calling people who aren't nazi nazi
Yes.
Fan art is as valid for political expression as any other medium. However,
I don't like the violent rhetoric in general. Violence is never right. Don't be Malcom X; be MLK. I understand, we're all angry about something, it's not bad or wrong to be angry. But it has to be used constructively, to motivate yourself, and then funneled into positive passion. Because when it comes down to it, we can't forget why we care about these issues, why they are so important that they make us angry in the first place. We strive for tolerance and equality because, at the heart of it, we value empathy. We cannot approach others with anger, if only partly because opening a debate with anger will only cause your opponent's brain to immediately lock into defense mode. But more importantly, you must embody the core value of empathy, and all else will follow. Partly this manifests by allowing your opponent the freedom to change their mind, to assure them that they will be forgiven for their mistakes. Otherwise, how will we get people to change sides? It's still a democracy, we still need the votes. So, take the high road, show don't tell, be the better side.
sorry for the blog post, i just had a big discussion with someone about this today and it's still fresh
>it would mean you supported underage prostitution and ruined economy
Shit is that how they did it. Makes sense.
They deserve to be vilified fir mutilating genitals. The problem is Sup Forums types can't get over their stupid conspiracies about other bullshit.
Yes but in the public eye they were.
>powerless people asking for rights to be curtailed
Only in the United States.
Well, it's not unheard of mutant gobbos and orcs with different pigmentation.
And there's also an army of mongorian goblins with grey skin, a race of orange-ish goblins that are treated like slaves by angry dwarfs and a subspecies of goblins that ogres keep as pets and sometimes good too.
I hate to ask, but, what medium are we describing goblins here?