She doesn't deserve all that hate

She doesn't deserve all that hate

Who doesn't?

>Ruins the much anticipated conclusion of a fan favorite series

You're right, she deserves more.

Who? You posted a picture of Jack.

Go home, Gendy.

You're right.

Her character and concept isn't to blame though, it was how she was utilized by genndy especially at the end.
People tend to attribute all the faults to her very existence, which I think is unfair

She didn't ruin anything except the enjoyment of a bunch of extremely bitter spergs.

The real April Fools prank is every episode beyond the fourth one of the new season.

How would Jack have gone back in time and undone all the damage without Ashi?

They found a way to neatly wrap up and conclude the story through Ashi and her and Jack's romance.

>neatly wrap up
What the fuck have you been smoking?
The story ends with an apocalyptic implication that had never previously been considered in anyway

user, Jack is a man not a girl.

How else would it have ended? Aku lives? Or Jack defeats Aku in the present? That just makes no sense, Jack has felt crushing guilt for all the suffering Aku has been able to cause because he didn't kill him in the past.

I've always liked Ashi

She ruin both the season and the series.

Adding to this, there is also a massive hanging thread of what happened to the jack thrown into an aku free future, as well as the unanswered question of how jack remains in the past with memories of the sole cause of his return.
>inb4 "it's because he is in the correct time and she wasnt"
That's nothing but an assumption made based on someone else's assumption that he didn't age due to being in the wrong time(the only explanation offered for aging is aku saying that "the initial time travel affected the aging process", which could mean one of MANY things)

yeah you are right, Jack dont deserve that hate but Ashi on the other hand....

She's not the sole problem but is a pretty good example of the problem.

>jack kills aku in present
Yes that's exactly how it should have ended, the spirits of Jack's parents have already told him not to feel responsible for akus travesties, he has someone to live for in the present, and mad jack is no longer guilt tripping him into insanity

Your response implies that you think jack is a "she"

I'm positive you and all of her apologist would be singing a different tune if she was a guy.

She wasn't the problem at all, she was the conduit by which the writing problems came to light.
I.e. having a new character isn't a problem(as many are keen on saying), but the rushed writing was especially noticeable in shared screentime.

Only because that role was already filled by the scotsman and having another male comrade like that would have felt redundant.
The battle couple dynamic was one of the most fun parts of the season, even though it was terribly underutilized as they barely ever fought together outside of the catfight

Your response implies that you think jack is not best waifu.

Ashi is best girl

>THEY CHOSE THE PATH
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>THEY CHOSE
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>Her character and concept isn't to blame though,

Yes it is. Shoehorning in a lame love interest in what is supposed to be the comeback conclusions fans have been waiting ten years for.

They didn't want a waifu. They didn't want a shitty romance with the writers new waifu. They wanted Jack facing Aku and she took away from that.

Oh look another ashi thread where the same two people keep it alive by dumping the same drawings

>shoehorning in
She was developed and given context, shoehorning would be starting the season with her and jack together with no explanation

Was wasn't established in the previous series and any CONTEXT was just so much self justification. The cult came out of nowhere and event he concept of sisters was forced. Why did we need a whole group of them? All that does is make it so Ashi falls in love with the man who butchered her only family. She shouldn't fall in love with him she should be a constant thorn in his side.

I agree. Mostly because the porn was fuckin tiiiiiiight.Especially that one giantess vore story.

I like this scene but this image is poorly conceived. Nothing about Samurai Jack has anything to do with that scene from The Emperor's New Groove.

>cult came out of nowhere
A cult forming around a literal god is "out of nowhere?"
>why did we need a group of them
That's kinda the point of a cult, and as for the assassins, nobody is known to defeat jack in single combat
>she shouldn't fall in love with him
He is literally the only individual she has ever met who wasn't malicious to her, and even then, you're applying modern standards to a hypothetical demonruled future

Don't bother arguing with them.

>hurrr anyone who doesn't like it is a SPERG!!!

t. sperg

Romance and Samurai Jack pacing simply don't go along.

People wanted more of Episode 1-3. It couldn't be like that with a cute Ashii girlfriend. That's all there is to it.

I don't hate the character, I hate that she was shoehorned into the show and took up so much of the story.

It was less "Samurai Jack" and more "Samurai Jack plus some girl having daddy issues" and it went from an action adventure show to a cheesy romance comedy with some action here and there.

She literally hijacked Jack and Aku's 4 season long build up confrontation and made it about HER

this, basically

there's a stark difference in tone between episodes 1-3 and the rest of the season

yeah that too

4 seasons of build-up to what was supposed to be a conclusion to Jack & Aku, and suddenly we have a wrench thrown into that, in the form of a mary sue love interest

>The final 3 episodes which would have been the perfect way to end the series in a mirror to how it started

>One Episode is a Romance Episode where Jack and Aishi fight a LITERALLY WHO alien
>One Episode about stomping on one of the last plot threads that fans had been holding out for for years and also about OH NO AISHI IS BRAIN WASHED
>The final episode is a flaccid final confrontation that suddenly ends out of nowhere because AISHI YOU HAVE AKU'S POWERS

Compare that to the Opening of the series
1. Jack's introduced, trained and has his first confrontation with Aku, losing
2. Jack is now in a strange land, where he is is forced to adapt and does so when confronted with fighting against Aku, who learns that the foe who came closest to killing him has returned
3. Jack fights off Aku's armies and wins

Who?

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>Bring back a series thats been dead for 13 years for only 10 episodes
>Dedicate 7 episodes to some baboon faced, literally who that should have died in Ep 3
>Reduce all of Jacks internal conflict to a cringy forced romance in the end
>Blatantly rip off an anime ending for the finale

Ashi was a mistake

It's always easy to tell the woman hating betas from threads like these.
>the show was fine before they introduced that THAT WOMAN

Liked Ashi, and her involvement. She added something different to the show and gave us our only chance to see Jack as something other than guilt ridden samurai.

>all that time wasted on a love interest that just died anyways
Even Gurren Lagann bothered to have at least two season to introduce and them ship the girl with the main character, by the second half it was really obvious they didnt had enough time and had to rush shit, removing Ashi from the equation would have genuinely improved the show

The scene that really fucking did it for me and made me realize that there was no chance that we would get a satisfying ending was the fucking Tea Ceremony shit where we just saw this boring ass process take place for like a quarter of the episode while his baboon faced gf literally

LITERALLY

Takes down an ENTIRE army by herself. Then he beats his inner demons easy as shit and his past anger and anguish is swept under the rug just because he took like 10 minutes to meditate. He even instantly gets his sword back.

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Are you still surprised? Ashi isn't human.

> she should be a constant thorn in his side.
Because there weren't already enough antagonists for Jack.

It's only gayfags and MGTOW that are upset.

Yeah no shit buddy. It was a lame and pointless waste of time is my point.

Learning that she was inhuman later on only showed just how no-stakes that fight was in hindsight too, making it twice as infuriating.

Have you considered that maybe you're just being a prick? It was action that kept people entertained because spiritual journies are not the most exciting thing to watch.

>no stakes
>Jack just chucked a spear through two of her sisters a few episodes ago
You do realize that most baddies in this series are nothing to Jack, right? She was meant to mirror him. Of course she'd do well against an army, just as he did in the first season.

I never like ashi

>yfw it turns out CN cancelled Samurai Jack in an attempt to save us from the ending we got

Of course she doesn't! It's all Genndy's fault.

There wasn't enough time for develop a character like her in just 10 episodes, that's the whole problem.

>Original ended in 2004
>Genndy mapped out this final story in 2008-9
Good effort, tho. Honestly, I have no clue how this was supposed to be a movie when it felt like it was hurting for a couple more episodes.

It worked well with ikra, this season simply didn't have samurai Jack pacing aside from a few fights. Everything was much more fast paced

How the hell would you know without taking off xir underwear

> It worked well with ikra
Now I know this is a bait thread. Take your (You) and scram.

She pushed the army down the mountain in an instant, then we only saw clips of the fight inbetween Jack stirring tea like a dumbass. That sounds pretty lame to me, but whatever.
You literally just proved my point right there

shit waifu
shit ending
shit thread

The explain the episode where they were ambushed by the lettered green tigers.
I had to suppress the urge to zap away

What's there to explain?
It was a funny fight with cool adversaries in a neat environment.
I wish there were more like it

>Going into a Genndy show not expecting absurd over-the-top fights

Do you not remember the Mace Windu bullshit in Clone Wars?

How can I hate what doesn't exist?

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>A cult forming around a literal god is "out of nowhere?"

When it only shows up in the final season as a big deal yes. It's out of nowhere.

>request DOA1 Leifnag stretching like this but her top gives way and her tits get exposed

No he just murdered the fuck out of her sisters.

This writing style is garbage

Never post that again you underage girl

Only the last green text is a mistake.
The butthurt blow-out their romance caused was fucking glorious. Most fun I had on Sup Forums.

>None of the other one-off stories out of nowhere (like Spartans) were a problem but this is.

Proved what point? The struggle was not against the orcs it was against her mother, and she collapsed after taking her down (could have died).

I would say the last 2, I loved the romance but it should have bolstered the finale instead of turning her into a damsel in distress.
It completely butchered her character and the battle couple dynamic to have her get put in a cage that could only be broken by love

>>None of the other one-off stories out of nowhere (like Spartans) were a problem but this is.

Because those episodes where introduced as part of the conclusion. This isn't really difficult to understand I don't see what you're not understanding.

weren't. rather.

fuck it all Im going to bed

He meant the episodes they were introduced had them come out of nowhere

>i'm only mad because it wasn't empowering enough and she was saved by a man

The problem was she took up way too much of the final season. Her role should have been much smaller, and she shouldn't have turned into a generic Hollywood "strong woman" after becoming good either.

Ideally her purpose should have been to cement Jack's attachment to the world of the present, to make his final choice of leaving to the past feel more consequential. You could even keep the whole her being Aku-Jr shit unchanged. For example, in the final battle Ashy realizes she can create time portals like before. However, she cannot pass through them herself, since Aku has never shown being able to do this either. She uses her power in a heartfelt goodbye to send Jack to the past, where he gets a final showdown with past Aku, while she stays in the present to try to fix it on her own. That way both the past and present plotlines get satisfying endings, instead of un-creating the whole present timeline and letting everyone there die.

The ONLY thing she didn't deserve was all that air-time on a series of only TEN episodes to close an entire 4+ season story arc.

should have been a daughter father relationship tbqh

>strawmanning this hard

>fans wait years for the story to be finished
>finally get their wish, one last chance to tie up all loose ends
>but then we get a new character
>who ends up being the protagonist's love interest
>who ends up resolving the central conflict of Jack not being able to go back in time
>who then disappears without a trace so she might as well not have existed
She was, frankly, just a bad idea. A really bad idea

>boring ass process take place for like a quarter of the episode
t. didn't watch original Samurai Jack
t. doesn't appreciate juxtaposition

>crying about muh damsel in distress and that she wasn't a mary sue anymore in one instance

Oh, did you make it?

Came here for that comment alone.

Absolutely.

She deserves even more.

Today I'll remind them.

Yes she does. Also, who?

I liked her. She made a good audience surrogate and I was totally okay with the idea of Jack finally getting some happiness

that ending was total bullshit tho

wouldn't have worked at all

>AGAGAgagagag...
Lost.

Except for the fact, "oh lol I got aku's powers because I am his child tee hee!"

Bullshit ending for bullshit people.

Not really, Ashit deserves all the hate she gets for ruining Samurai Jack