/mgtow/

Real Men go their own way

Any Real Men on Sup Forums ?

I suppose I meet the label in that I don't really try to find anyone. I just work, exercise and shitpost.

>I have no power over women, so I pretend like I actively choose not to be involved with them and hence deluding myself into thinking I have power over them

kek

an enlightened individual

I want a woman but cannot get one.

Anybody who labels themselves as MGTOW are losers.

Actual men just don't make it a thing and actually have a life of their own.

no, I found a QT who respects me and we make each other's lives better.

she's been with 8 guys prior to me but I am not insecure so it doesn't bother me.

I have a gf, don't plan on marrying nor having larva.
Am I mgtow?

>real men
>Using a female-mindset shaming tactic

Go to hell with your passive aggression.

Remember that a point of MGTOW is to detach yourself from women and focus on your own development.

And then, eventually you become a high value man and can choose from high quality women.

If your idea behind MGTOW is to watch porn, jerk off, have a bad diet and be as pathetic as it's possible because "fuck women", then you completely missed the point.

In old times, young men usually tried to pursue glory first and then women.

The good thing is that you can be even 45 when you find your 'glory' and you can still find a tight 20 year old.

At 45 there is not much longer left to live, and you will be a failed father who struggles to do anything with any children you might get.

"real men" who go their own way don't post about it on oceanic fish filet forums. They can live life how they please (free of women if they choose) without seeking validation from losers online.

That depends, when you look at succesful men, they often find young women even at old age.

It's important to take good care of your health, so you're not a shadow of a man man at 40.

Too much of MGTOW is complaining about feminists and seeking validation. And not enough guides for fitness, stoicism, self-reliance, and finances.

That's my main gripe with them.

>shaming
cuck

Real men marry a woman and have children. One of the most important ability that an organism carries is the power to create offspring. And now we got people who want to 'SAVE THE WHITE RACE' by having sex with dogs.

I never understood this. If what you say is true, then why does Sup Forums and the rest of the internet constantly whine about men opting out, men not approaching women, the MGTOW movement, etc? If nobody cares, then nobody would whine about those things.

I understand the point about how MGTOW can seem preachy, annoying, etc, but you could say that about any other internet movement.

Read whats in here, practice it, but don't chase a women and soon enough they'll all be wanting you to choose them.

A real man gets married you debaucherate, a real man is a christian and makes love to his wife every night.

Not everyone is a Russian with a life expectancy of 50 years.

Fucking thank you. For me, MGTOW and TRP have always been about realizing your full potential, switching from scarcity to abundance mindset, and prioritizing your own interests and goals over anything woman-related.

"Happy wife, happy life," gets discarded like the pithy, garbage aphorism it is. A happy wife isn't one you bend over backwards and beg and scrape to please, it's a woman who doesn't think her husband's a pussy with a beer gut and a shitty job.

There are actually men in their 60s and 70s who look half their age because they took care of themselves, got in shape, and stayed in shape early on.

For most people, though, MGTOW is about the attached pic.

>caring about having larva

fuck off cuck.

>MGTOW

One divorce was plenty. I got over on that deal, as in i lost nothing other than wasted time, so I'm not about to roll those dice again.
Relationship? Sure I'm on-board.
Married? Fat fucking chance.

Until we bring back slavery and put women into it there is no need to ever interact with a woman

MGTOW is the neckbeard fedora version of living a Bachelor's lifestyle.
This nigga gets it

having sex with a woman every night has nothing to do with marriage you desert death cultist.

But I go outside and see young couples in public all the time. MGTOW isn't even as big as it's angry enemies say it is.

uglyfag detected
You'll never know the feeling of being swooned over whenever you step foot in public

People are born gay. You cant turn them the other way. A jew would persuade men to go with waifuism or pokephilia, not homosexuality.


Also I am a proud pokephile and Goodra is mai waifu

That image is the most butthurt thing I've read from MGTOW

>sacrifice your life for a girl
>you won't get any benefits besides maybe regular sex
>everything else in the relationship benefits her
>there's nothing stopping her from being unfaithful

sounds like a good deal. I'll happily sacrifice the next 60 years of my life for a chance at getting a girl.

This nigga gets it

I want to have children though

...

Why can't women enslave men? Have you ever heard of forced compliance?

But its going to get bigger. In an increasingly liberal society there will be a point where a man has to choose become a nu male trash or man up tell womyn to fuck off

...

How about this?

I doubt it. Men have always been tools and slaves of women and government. Why do you think MRAs never succeeded? Same reasons MGTOWs won't succeed. Men naturally have an out-group preference, and men opting out means civilization ends. Don't get me wrong, I do think men should opt out, but I cannot logically ever see it happening.

Why the feel the need to constantly advertise this?

If you were truly above women/relationships, you wouldn't devote so much of your time and effort to shitposting.

If you are that afraid of it, then marriage probably isn't for you. No one is forcing men to get married, but having unsubstantiated fear is irrational just based off reading internet posts.

oosh.
I suppose you can just head for /fit/ senpai.

>Any Real Men on Sup Forums?

Yes, that's why I GIVE MY MONEY TO WOMEN

>GIVE YOUR MONEY TO WOMEN

>GIVE YOUR FUCKING MONEY TO WOMEN

Real men.

Just like "real women."

Don't worry guys, we're different.

>but having unsubstantiated fear is irrational just based off reading internet posts.
>unsubstantiated

Look at marriage rates idiot. Men are less willing to get married.

If it can happen to George Clooney it can happen to anyone. Men aren't stupid mindless drones - slaves to the vagina. Not anymore.

I found a girl that has a crush on me and she is FUCKING STUPID, seriously, she's really stupid and i cannot even understand how

but dont you like the taste of pussy ?

I like stupid women

wtf i hate women now

>8

You mean 800

>No one is forcing men to get married

I disagree. The internet is full of absolutely bitter people telling guys to "man up", spamming "fedora virgin edgy neckbeard loser basement dweller" etc insults at guys who simply state that they don't feel they want to get married. I've experienced it myself. Even in real life, people get pushy and rude when they inquire about why I don't get overly involved with women. People absolutely try to force men to get married, they just fail most of the time.

They never were "slaves" people got married to have a stable relationship with mutual beneficial results. Historically women got the shaft when it came to marriage. Women were treasures to be given away to a man, usually in an arranged marriage. You are not an oppressed group finally "breaking free". You are a whiny group who do not feel as powerful anymore and give up even trying.

>MGTOW

cringe

That's why TRP is great, plebit TRP forum is filled with great guides and recommendations for books and videos.

Plebit MGTOW forum is full of bitching about feminists and 0 self betterment, when I stated that there should be more positive content, I got dovnwoted.

Stupid women are better than smart women.

They're easier to deal with, generally nicer, and less involved in the media TV kike jewery

Only if it hasnt been fucked by (20) niggers.

>Historically women got the shaft when it came to marriage.

Yeah poor women, protected by men. Provided for by men. But I guess they couldn't fuck around all day like the whores they are huh?

>You are a whiny group who do not feel as powerful anymore and give up even trying.

If we're not powerful, why are you mad that I'm not sacrificing myself for the pleasure of a woman?

MGTOW is basically trying to rationalize male homosexuality right?

You mean pathetic men who can't live up to the expectations put on them so they bitch and whine instead?

Yeah, totally respectable individuals that we should all listen to. Not.

I'm a roofer. And not a scummy criminal one. I'd rather tape up a damaged limb and go in than miss a day of work. A chance to turn my weakness into strength. I can outpace guys much bigger than me due to a bit of a unique physiology. I'm not nearly good enough to accept myself though, and I don't want anyone in my way until I'm at a point where I consider myself godly. I don't care if I ever reach this height so long as I am true to the journey.

It isn't for me. I'm way to proud to submit, and prenups can be thrown out all the time. If I ever had kids, I'd be strapping a remote activated financial suicide vest to myself.

And if I wound up having to pay child support so my ex could live comfortably with some drug-abusing, shitheaded "thug" and spend less than 1/4th of what I'm legally obliged to pay her on my actual child/children, I'd rather drive over with a machete and murder her, then spend the rest of my life in jail with her blood on my hands, than allow my offspring to grow up in that kind of environment.

Better to just avoid that mess altogether.

Its none of their business. They probably see it as more of failing on your part as a character issue, rather than just pushing women on you. No one can make you get married though.

>Yeah poor women, protected by men. Provided for by men. But I guess they couldn't fuck around all day like the whores they are huh?

A role invented for women to be the caretaker, whether necessary or not. You know as well as I do that women had no say in anything until the turn of the century.

>If we're not powerful, why are you mad that I'm not sacrificing myself for the pleasure of a woman?

I'm not mad at that

The game is rigged

Women can fuck you over believing she's doing you a grand favor and you just have to take it like a good cuckboy

Fuck that shit

well dont fuck those that are wrecked there are plenty of fuckable girls all around

>tfw my wife and I both wanted a small, inexpensive wedding
>tfw I cum in her mouth and pussy

>A role invented for women to be the caretaker, whether necessary or not. You know as well as I do that women had no say in anything until the turn of the century.

That's not true. Women could live alone and provide for themselves if they had the means.

>A role invented for women to be the caretaker

Yeah they had no say at all. None. They were sold off as marriage-slaves by their parents cause nobody wanted them around.

>I'm not mad at that
Oh okay, what are you mad about then?

>prenups can be thrown out all the time.
Can be thrown out all the time, or are thrown out all the time?

Everything you are describing is always a worst case scenario. Its like being afraid of going to the dentist because you think he'll drill all of your teeth out. Yeah it can happen, but its rare.

RARE

Agreed. TRP gave me the push to get in shape and stop going to parties with my college friends to try and pick up sluts. My heart was never into it, and after the third try I realized that trying to get intimate with easy women was a fantastic way to pick up diseases.

And all those /fit/ posts about "mirin'," turned out to be right. The same applies if you learn how to implement leadership strategies, frame, and "amused mastery" into your daily life. If you're built, don't act like a frat douche, exhibit charisma, and take control of the people and circumstances around you, people peg you as the "strong, silent type" and start to rely on you for your stability and stoicism.

Without muscle mass and charisma, you're an introvert that nobody listens to. With just charisma, you're "cool" and "funny" but people won't follow you or respect you if shit goes sideways. You need the whole package to be successful.

Congrats user, you won at life.

I dont want fuckable I want serious relationship material. Those dont exist.

fucking MGTOWs man

real men go their own way, which means you live the way we all say is cool

what a joke

Honestly men just need to re-negotiate their contracts with their spouses.

Be creative with the law.

Why get married or cohabit when you can pay her to be a surrogate under a legally binding contract. All the legal power then remains in your court. She can tag along if she wants to, or if she wants to go suck a million black dicks then you have nothing more to do with her and she has no claim over your property or children.

did you try the library :)

There's a documentary called DivorceCorp. There's also one called Hjernevask.
And plenty more you could find on the sidebar of r/TheRedPill if you were interested in seeing where your opposition was coming from.

All you're doing is being sarcastic or shilling logical fallacies because we don't conform to your worldview.

>everything you are describing is a worst case scenario
Dude, the divorce rate was higher than 50% for a while. And with how devastating divorce is on a man, I'd compare this to telling someone:
>Dude, skydiving is SO amazing, you HAVE to try it.
>What? Oh, yeah, there's like a 50% chance the chute won't deploy right.
>What? Oh, then, uh, you die.
>WTF, THAT'S NOT A DEAL-BREAKER YOU FAGGOT, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN TO EVERYONE! WTF ARE YOU AFRAID OF, PUSSY, MAN UP!

or playing Russian roulette with 4 rounds in the cylinder

This is the cringiest "movement". Don't do the label thing. This mgtow is SJW-tier pussy shit.

The secret is to follow the golden rule, and do something worthwhile with your life.

difference in your atatement being

>not risking your life for thrills

is different from

>being a financial slave to someone who ruined your life

>you won't get any benefits besides maybe regular sex
and wuv
>there's nothing stopping her from being unfaithful
except for wuv

OR NOT. Partly up to you.

>That's not true. Women could live alone and provide for themselves if they had the means.

That is good. What is your point?

>Oh okay, what are you mad about then?

I am mad about the mouth breathers in this thread thinking they are starting some great revolution for men to cast aside women. If you don't want to get married that is your business, a man isn't going to get duped into get married because a woman is secretly rubbing her talons together waiting to pray on unsuspecting man flesh.

I know where the opposition comes from. I know the exact reasoning of why men don't want to get married. I get it. You are scared of divorce and you are scared of losing your money and freedom.Blame the laws for that, the fact is most people who get divorced weren't marriage material anyway. Most people don't know their partner as well as they should in order to make that choice, most people don't have that interpersonal relationship with their significant other, and as soon as a rough patch hits, they want out.

My parents have been married over 40 years and have had their rough patches, but my mom doesn't want a divorce, neither does my dad. I want to marry my current GF, who wants to have a prenup with me, she understand. I have been dating her for 2 years and it will probably be another few years for us to get married. Most people now of days are impatient and non communicative. They can't express what is wrong and they just want to hit the quit button. It is pathetic.

Or being a drug dealer

>Dude you can get super rich doing almost nothing
>It's great
>Just ignore the constant threat of the cops busting you, and ruining your future, which can happen at any time

You cannot measure how much a person loves you. She can measure how much is in your bank account and how much she'll make by divorcing you.

What if I'm a shitskin?
Doesn't it benefit you?

Real men buy sex slaves.
I understand the current situation.
But real men don't puss out.

>a man isn't going to get duped into get married because a woman is secretly rubbing her talons together waiting to pray on unsuspecting man flesh.


If it happened to George Clooney it can happen to you.

NEWFAG

Not really.

How well did he know the person? How long did they date? Was there a prenup? Why did he want to get married?

>You cannot measure how much a person loves you.
Well, you can get some sort of idea if you're not too autistic.
I mean JESUS FUCK, just reread what you've just said. Don't you realize there might be something wrong with you, and how you approach relationships? There's supposed to be some sort of emotional attachment between people forming these kind of relationships. It's crucial, and it's what makes it worth it in the end. Yeah you can't really quantity it unlike your money, no fucking shit. I bet you'd be demanding $X/month worth of love if that wasn't obviously over the top ridiculous.
>She can measure how much is in your bank account and how much she'll make by divorcing you.
Yeah you watch out for gold diggers. Again, not that hard if you have any ability to read people and aren't dead inside yourself.
Matter of fact, why let her know at all how much money you make? Pretend to be struggling if you want to find someone worthwhile to love (not sure you're able to though). If you can't attract good women this way, then yeah, fuck it. MGTOW it is.

the only thing cringey is how hard it is for white knights to put down their fucking lance and accept that women will never be interested in them

I have a GF and I am still a white knight

this. christ I have no game whatsoever.

>I have a GF and I am still a white knight

no, your "gf" has a slave and you are still a white knight

she's not interested in >>you

I guess you sure got me.

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>being swooned over

Uglyfag detected, you'll never know the feeling of making women cum with your gaze

>I guess you sure got me.

Women have VERY LITTLE respect for men who prostrate themselves before women. They have a biological need to establish a pecking order -- this is why girls/women fight all the time when they are together.

Basically it's like this. If you prostrate yourself to her, then you're below her in the pecking order. She wants to marry / mate up (hypergamy) so you are OF NO MATING VALUE to her.

This is why women go for men who treat women like shit. They need men who are above them in the pecking order.

old wealthy man with young faithful woman.99% goodluck with that.

she's already cheated on you.

>predominantly christian
I am sure glad that that's finally ending. Whether our race lives or dies will be decided by the rejection of christ insanity and other weak ideologies. Or have none of you seen the problem with the fact that most White countries were conquered without a shot being fired?

It's about time to wake completely up and stop hanging halfway or three-quarters. You leave all the kikery behind if you want to survive. The Middle East is a shitpile and semites are garbage. Fuck their books, stupid-ass ways of thinking, and their religions.

It is honestly ridiculous that there are still people that lack the honor to tell the truth about their own kind. You won't win against a psychotic, highly motivated enemy without scruples or morals while you cling to the moral code they imposed on you, regardless of the present-day happenings and the environment that more serious pro-whites have created so these milquetoast christtards could start making noise again.

Seriously, stop screwing up pro-white rhetoric with this christ insanity garbage. It is exactly as awkward as just randomly inserting literal faggots into pro-white rhetoric or flat earth shit (unironically, obviously). IT DOES NOT BELONG.

>Have a GF
>Treat her like shit
>Constantly play mind games to fuck with her

Am I MGTOW Sup Forums?

>Women have VERY LITTLE respect for men who prostrate themselves before women.

Good thing I am not doing that. There is a difference between rational arguments and laying down like a doormat, but again, what ever you think

>This is why women go for men who treat women like shit.
They don't, you just think they do to act as justification for continuing to treat women like shit