Is this the best version of this character? I thought he was a cool character and under used on Superman TAS...

Is this the best version of this character? I thought he was a cool character and under used on Superman TAS. Does he have any comic stories worth reading?

Toyman unfortunately hasn't aged well and I think most writers tend to avoid him given how hard he is to write around.

he was also in justice league and wonder woman nearly beat him to death because she thought he killed batman/superman
was pretty funny

What exactly do you mean by hard to write around? His gimmick? I honestly think he'd pop up a lot more if he were a Batman villain.

He just isn't seen as "cool". I think you'd be right if he was a Batman villain he'd get more use. Frankly a lot of Superman villains need more focus. Does Metallo or Parasite even have a good story about them?

Well thats the thing, his gimmick isn't really what it used to be. Kids dick around with devices/gaming systems more than toys, and his gadgets/robots hardly ever pose a threat to Clark. Outside of giant toy soldiers and abducting kids, what can you do with Winslow? Granted hes this mature/socially stunted man that Superman wishes he could help, and writers should try to do something with him, I'm just drawing a blank at the moment as to how.

TAS did an impressive amount with the Superverse. TAS Metallo is still my favorite. How come Superman writers didn't take from S:TAS like Batman took from B:TAS?

Make him /r9k/ tier petty and have him try to kill all the Chads and Staceys that humiliated him at school.

I feel very similar, but with Mad hatter
seriously, 99% of all the stories he appears in has him playing second fiddle, be a minor threat, a background character or just a joke/all of the above.

I like Toyman, I like Mad hatter and it is really frustrating that neither one of them has gotten much love in much of anything other than the animated series.

Maybe that could play into his origin some how. He's angry at the world for moving ahead with digital technology and electronic games. There could be some kind of metaphor for being stuck and the past and an obsession with the good ol' days.

Maybe Mad Hatter and Toyman need a team up of some kind. They're both weird man children with motifs based around children's entertainment. They also kidnap kids, which should probably be down played.

Toyman was an unfortunate victim of edge. Some writers decided he should be a child killer, I wouldn't be surprised if some hack even implied he's a pedophile.

Toyman loves children and hates adults, he wants to protect the innocence of children in his twisted mind.

This issue of Action Comics by Roger Stern is probably the best comic featuring Toyman.

Mad Hatter's treatment pisses me off especially. Here you have the perfect character to embody escapism, and reflect Bruce's own escapism by being Batman. Jervis should be a puppetmaster who controls people not just for his own fantasy, but believing he's helping others escape the harsh truths of reality. And yet all writers seem to do with Tetch is make him a weird asshole with a hat fetish, pedophilia, and bestiality. BTAS honestly had one of the better takes on him.

>Kids dick around with devices/gaming systems
Mo they fucking dont, they still play with toys

That's just cringe, user.
Plenty of comics do that shit with their villains now, especially Marvel, and they're shit.

I honestly think the Young Justice version was the best as of late. And that says a lot.

I mean, they still technically do, but the toy industry certainly isnt what it used to be in the 80s/90s.

Be more meta and play around with the whole collector mentality that goes hand-in-hand with comic shops. Make him someone obsessed with the gadgets and memorabilia that comes with superheroes. he collects and repurposes gadgets and creations of past villains and heroes. Like he uses some Golden Age villain's robot slaves that were used to fight the JSA decades ago, but this time repaired and modernized. Or he engineers mutant henchmen based off boglins and creepy crawlers and other now nostalgic toys.

Shit, I never thought about the whole escapism angle. That's brilliant, Jarvis decided to retreat into fantasy as an escape from trauma and Bruce threw himself into the horrors of real life by becoming Batman.

You could I guess steal the Mad Hatter's eternal Wonderland gimmick and have him try to live out his childhood fantasies forever with his old classmates. Instead of killing them all he just wants to get the hot chick and beat the bully. Maybe contrasting how those two have changed as they've grown while Toyman hasn't?

Because faggot kids kike to play with soulless apps like the retarded tasteless shits they are
>He's angry at the world for moving ahead with digital technology and electronic games.
That would literally be me as a super villain. Im a /toy/fag and fucking hate parents giving their kids iphones and resent the current youth for not wanting toys anymore.

I actually really like this

Thanks, Satan. I would be more than happy to write it myself, if I knew the appropriate place to post it. Trying to create a portfolio.
user don't project your own fantasies/insecurities into writing

Best Toyman design coming through

This isn't bad, but why would he be mad about this? This flips him from bitter manchild to bitter old man.

eh, eh. It fits the mad hatter because his fantasy includes an alice. But a guy obsessed with toys would probably ignore his classmates and favor objects, no reason to chase him.
Maybe turn toyman into an anti-internet/social-media/vidya in favor of traditional toys kinda maniac?

>bestiality
Wait what

Also I think a lot of the problem with characters like Toyman and Mad Hatter is how they're both such vibrant concepts in a dark setting, and that other writers have used them as comedy bits too often and diminished their impact. Same sort of thing happened to Scarecrow. He's outed as a cowardly, pathetic, weaselly redheaded nerd so often that no one can take him seriously. He's the vessel artists use to deliver gas that allows them to draw unrelated stories, or whatever fucked up thing they want to draw or write that week.

>user don't project your own fantasies/insecurities into writing
Hey I had a pretty good school life. The bully was actually my friend for some odd reason. But yeah it's kinda cliched but then so is Mr. Freeze's motive: Revenge. It's all in the execution.

>How come Superman writers didn't take from S:TAS like Batman took from B:TAS?

Superman writers have a tendency to tear down any developments made in the last 5-10 years of their given run. I think thats part of the reason the franchise has trouble gaining traction. there's still people who are pissed off businessman Luthor is a thing when I have trouble grasping him as some fistshaking mad scientist. Its just too removed from what I grew up with. But people will insist it was a mistake long after I'm their age.

I remember reading the 80s Metallo origin and finding it pretty uninteresting. Any Metallo fans out there with a reworked origin idea?

Jervis had a pet chimpanzee
Mister Freeze's motive isn't revenge, its refusing to let go

this

I remember reading that story.

It was really nice how Toyman's motive was mostly to cheer up children that were being neglected by their parents rather than something dark and creepy, which was happening to some DC villains during that period.

This is accurate.

No one wants to play with his toys anymore and they think they're all cool because he just has a wooden train to play with while the rest of kids got a PS4 this Chirstmas.

>that pedobear

Writers should use more from this version.

>Mister Freeze's motive isn't revenge, its refusing to let go
Pretty sure B:TAS originally had him turning to crime to kill his ex-boss because of his boss turning him into Freeze. Isn't that where
>Oh yes Batman I'd kill for that
Comes from

>Still 75 Cents
>75 cents
Goddammit!

>I do not and will never have children

Restriction breeds creativity. TAS couldn't make him a monster or imply he was a pedophile.

I dont plan to either. I hate modern kids

I could give it a shot.
>John Corben was a war correspondent for The Dailey planet, and ex-marine with a forced discharge due to injury. John chose to be a military reporter because the last mission, the same mission that resulted in his discharge, also gave him a permanent limp which made him unfit for duty, and this is his only way of reliving his glory days. During one field report, Corben and his escort are hit by a car bomb, putting him on life support. Corben is then chosen to be a randomly chosen to be part of PROJECT: METALLO, the idea being giving a war vet a second chance to serve his country. Corben then goes through the transformation, given the Kryptonite heart because it they were trying to put the harmful mineral to good use, and slowly Corben begins to go mad.
The idea behind this is Corben hating the idea of being frail, to be weak, and seeing his new condition being his second chance to be in his prime. He turns on his superiors because he thinks their orders crippled him in the first place, and he turns on Superman because he resents this indestructible man never experiencing what its like to feel vulnerable.

Sorry I didnt mean to write this much, and its probably shit.

It was okay

as long as you don't write him as a pedophile

I had the idea of a cold blooded Soldier/Assassian (think Anton Chigurh) who gets in some kind of accident and is put in the Metallo body. When he wakes up he freaks out because of the body horror of... being a fucking robot. The only sensation he gets is pain, his suit is designed only to give him that sensation when his suit is damaged. He goes from being the human equivalent to the terminator to being a cyborg fueled by violent mood swings. He'd be on never ending quest to gain his humanity back, while doing mercenary jobs on the side.

This isn't the 90s anymore, Todd.

I've only read the early issues of Spawn. Is that what Overtkill's origin was?

I fucking love that design