Not a Marvel reader, but why is Sue so unfaithful? I've noticed from small clippings of other comics that some other Marvel women are the same, such as Medusa.
What's the deal?
Do Marvel writers get off on that stuff? Or do they make them like that because they feel it is perceived as more realistic?
Carson Garcia
Keep it to one thread
Sebastian Stewart
What thread?
Jonathan Brown
Hi, Namorfag
Benjamin Davis
I don't like Namor.
Isaiah Jenkins
Whatever you say Namorfag.
Ryder Morgan
I mean I really don't. He's an asshole, and not in a "ha ha you're a jerk" kind of way. He is a legitimate jerk, and I don't understand why other the Marvel universe hasn't kicked the shit out of him yet.
Robert Perez
She is faithful in that she doesnt sleep with other men but she kissed and have allowed herself to be wooed by other men because she wants the attention she doesn’t always get from Reed but she still loves him.
Liam Wright
Important characters get shipped left and right by writers, but they never get license to make lasting changes to core dynamics for those selfsame characters. So, while everyone else gets to fuck around no problem, married couples are generally unfaithful because it's cheap conflict and a way to push your ship.
Jordan Watson
Why would she ever cheat on a guy who has an elastic dick.
Zachary Perry
>I don't understand why other the Marvel universe hasn't kicked the shit out of him yet. Cyclops banished him from mutantkind for mindfucking his woman.
Black Panther and Black Bolt kicked his ass and left him to die for being absolutely awful during Thanos' invasion.
Hyperion & Co. literally tore his head off for blowing up their Earth.
Have I missed anything?
Camden Perez
Good writers can write married characters just fine (look at Morrison's Animal-Man), is the Fantastic Four that has a problem with the characters ALWAYS overcoming the same drama only to have to overcome it AGAIN in the next run (like Johnny deciding that its time to grow-up, or Reed learning to spend some time with his family).
Sue's drama is her attraction towards the villain that wants to kill her family for dumb reasons.
Thomas Stewart
He always has to sleep on the wet spot.
Henry Price
>Hyperion & Co. literally tore his head off for blowing up their Earth. Only to resurrect him later because Marvel heroes convinced them that Namor is allowed to commit mass murder without facing punishment.
Matthew Parker
Fuck him. He needs to stay dead.
Lucas Hall
Yeah, nobody claimed F4 had only good writers. Or capable editors.
Christian James
Isn't she incredibly faithful to Reed in 616?
Christian Cox
Yes. Ignore bait from casuals who literally state to not reading comics. And from Namorfag, the person who made this thread.
Nicholas Wilson
He was force to do it. He didn't do it for fun.
Why is everybody forgetting that they were going to die and there is only one way to survive is destroying a planet.
John Perry
>I've noticed from small clippings of other comics Don't do this. People constantly post out of context bullshit from past comics. Don't believe anything you haven't read for yourself.
Blake Lewis
>Yes. Ignore bait from casuals who literally state to not reading comics. And from Namorfag, the person who made this thread.
I thought they're both one and the same.
Kevin Young
Faithful, yes. "Incredibly faithful", no. She has never slept with another man while married, but she has kissed other men and, going by Millar's word, she has masturbated other men.
I already have a thread, I didn't make this one.
Jace Brooks
Case in point.
Aiden Moore
It's a fine ship. Don't deny it
Carson Robinson
Handjobs are sex.
Elijah Williams
Chicks dig great fathers.
Elijah Smith
I remember that thread with Batgirl sexually harassing him.
James Morales
>Do Marvel writers get off on that stuff? Or do they make them like that because they feel it is perceived as more realistic? Morrison tried to explain why Sue wants to cheat on her husband with a man that tries to kill her family.
According to him, Sue is extremely wet for her brother, Johnny Storm. She really wants to ride him hard, but she knows it is wrong. So she tries to forget fire (Johnny) going after water (Namor).
This hardly makes Sue better.
Aaron White
Holy Shit, Morrison. What the fuck?
Hunter Torres
>caring what morrison has to say about marvel characters
Marvel writers like the cheap thrill of stupid love triangles. A good example. Morrison was going to do the Wolverine-JEEEAN-Cyclops triangle for the 1000th time but instead shook things up by doing a JEEEAN-Cyclops-Emma triangle.
Charles Brown
Sue skinny dipped with T'Challa, letting another man see her naked.
Infidelity happens because writers only think love triangles work to create good storytelling and drama in relationships.
But ultimately, they are set back to status quo and end up making one or both characters in the couple look like fools for letting third parties get in between them.
Elijah Price
Honestly, this shit is getting tiresome. I miss the days family drama didn't revolve around the dad having a wandering dick or the mom being a slut.
What happened to drug addict kids?
Elijah Carter
>caring what morrison has to say about marvel characters Does Marvel have any writer better than Morrison right now?
Xavier Rodriguez
>the dreaded love triangle strikes again [Bad writing advice intensifies]
Daniel Bailey
Sorry but the topic is "Morrison doesn't know shit about Marvel characters", not "the quality of current Marvel writers".
Easton White
No. Not by a long shot. Although Morrison did a hell of a good job with Xmen, not so sure about his F4.
Sebastian Harris
I don't think its a writers doing it only for the cheap easy drama. At least not that entirely. I think there is also some interference from up top that involves trying to get more chicks into comics since women eat love triangles up like its fucking candy.
Liam Carter
Only other person she's ever had sex with was a an alt Reed, and she didn't know.
Benjamin Russell
There's literally 100 things you can do other than infidelity but for some reason that's the go-to move.
Black Bolt and Medusa actually had a real issue when it came to their child. The Genetic Council ordered the child to be aborted, Medusa ran away rather than abort her kid.
That's realistic and shows a rift in their relationship that needed to be healed. The resolution wasn't that great but for a husband and wife to be on opposite sides when it comes to child rearing/birth is a big deal and can mature conversations can come out of that.
Kevin Jackson
That sounds a hundred times better than "Medusa is being a cunt again".
Aaron Gomez
Can I join the Alt Reed?
Henry Moore
Nowadays Black Bolt/Medusa drama is "She fucks any man but her husband".
Bentley Davis
Exactly. Like if that was the reason they broke up everyone would understand.
They also had another rift where Black Bolt was married 4 other women.
These things were about his duties as King, and him trying to reconcile doing the best thing for ALL inhumans versus just doing what Medusa wants to do.
Eli Garcia
I'm starting to believe someone at Marvel does get off to this shit.
Isaac Murphy
Or, and stay with me here, they could disagree on matters of state. Who if not the rulers would get into a spat over politics? In their case, the political is personal all the time. But no, it's not about Black Bolt being unable to punish his brother, or terrigenesis politics. It's about fucking. Because clearly sex has been the driving factor in this political marriage.
Leo Mitchell
I'm sure that it's a mixture of writers not being familiar with inhumans and writers not putting any thought into creating real dramatic stories.
There's just too many options to go with but we gotta go with sex, not just sex with randos but sex with close friends and relatives.
Jordan Murphy
Reed is a cuck
Isaiah Murphy
Not a Marvel writer nowadays, but Robert Kirkman does get off to that stuff and is a fan of Sue/Namor.
Both "Invincible" and "The |Walkind Dead" have "my girl was fucking another guy when I was away" drama. The guy just likes it.
Does he have a wife? I wonder if he brings black strong men to his home and throws them at his wife.
Bentley James
Yep. Definitely someone at Marvel is jerking to this.
Justin Thomas
Yeah, Kirkman is to infidelity as Alan Moore is to rape. They get off on it.
Ryder Collins
White people are fucking gross.
Alexander Bailey
It's awful.
They have to know that these characters are damaged by this kind of thing. People don't forget, especially since Marvel doesn't do hard reboots.
Bentley Moore
I can't fathom me, as a writer, writing an established couple getting messed up for drama. It just seems so ugly to me.
Chase Gomez
This comes from a company whose sale strategy is "getting our readers as angry as possible".
Marvel would put Sue in a happy gangbang with all Fantastic Four foes if they believed that it would sell well.
Landon Mitchell
...
Brayden Gonzalez
if it's not in the comic itself it's not canon.
Bentley Thompson
Comics can't show heroines masturbating villains, user.
She did it, though.
Hudson Jones
>According to him, Sue is extremely wet for her brother, Johnny Storm. She really wants to ride him hard, but she knows it is wrong. So she tries to forget fire (Johnny) going after water (Namor).
I don't get men sometimes. Is this appealing? Like what's the draw in writing women characters this way? Because all i see expressed is vitriolic hatred. Is there some taboo appeal of easy sex there, or what? Not saying that women writers don't have their own issues, but men writing women doing sexual things they absolutely despise, then hating the women characters for it, is a really weird trend I do not grasp.
Camden Cooper
You can't show vaginal penetration in comics either but we certainly know about a good number of rapes and sex. All they would have to do is allude to it. If he didn't write it in an official published comic, it's nothing more than fanfic.
Alexander Hernandez
>Avid F4 fan >Marvel can's title and forces johnny and Ben onto other teams >Fails horribly and fades them out too. >Now only threads related to them are just ReedxDoom stuff, >OR dedications to shitting on Sue, one of the few Marvel heroines actually worth respecting, and thanks to cancellations one that has yet to be ruined by the current Marvel regime. Feels bad man, feels really really bad...
Jack Bell
What do you think of Sue's attraction towards Namor, avid F4 fan?
David Ross
Up until a few years ago that gorgeous bastard was strutting around in a skin tight speedo. I admire a man who's comfortable in his body, and doesn't brag about it.
Ignoring the stupid little elf ears, I'd jump them bones in a heart beat.
Lincoln Robinson
>Namor fans are gay Always.
Elijah Bell
How can you like the F4 and be down with Namor, who attempts to wreck the home?
Gabriel Kelly
Nope, man or woman, I admire anyone who wheres a skimpy outfit.
Same deal with strippers, they are taking their clothes off for money, fuck yeah, make it rain.
John Reed
Reed is a beta male is why.
Christopher Martinez
Same way I can be a spidey-fan but also laugh my ass of at sins past. Or watch/read ANYTHING and usually end up routing for the villain.
I'm a terrible human being.
Evan Gutierrez
Same reason you have a "CUM EATING KEKOLD" folder in your porn folder, right?
It is just to have a laugh.
Matthew Bennett
When it comes to Namor, the answer is simple... "Finned for her pleasure."
Thomas Hernandez
Well it isn't hot if someone isn't crying or miserable...
Samuel Thomas
Sue storm didn't cheat on her husband. What would she? Reed got the biggest the penis in the marvel universe.
Carson Kelly
Who said I was?
Hunter Diaz
Sue is into dicklets.
>inb4 muh context
Caleb Foster
So Namor's the jew of the MU?
Mason Green
fuckin marvel writers
Julian Gutierrez
And yet, still better than anything they've produced since AvX
Andrew Mitchell
This. Marvel has its roots in 60s romance comics, which are a fucking t r i p.
Ethan Bailey
>going by Millar's word, she has masturbated other men. What? When did this happen?
Hunter Torres
If Reed's so smart why doesn't he learn PUA? He doesn't have to be too into it just parrot the techniques at sue.
Hudson Brooks
"Civil War".
>Sue goes to Atlantis to ask Namor to join her side >Namor refuses >They flirty >Next time he appears, Namor joins Captain America's side
Millar said in an interview that Sue masturbated Namor to convince him to join Cap's side.
Brayden Williams
>"getting our readers as angry as possible".
That shit back fired spectacularly and made Brevoort look like a damn idiot. Brilliant.
Anthony Gonzalez
Morrison is a literal wizard with weird ideas. Most of them good.
Leo Watson
>Millar Opinion discarded.
Matthew Bell
Hi Namorfag
Christian Parker
It is not an opinion. It is canon.
Adrian Lopez
Unless you show me a non 64 image of Sue doing that. I will keep discarding your idiotic opinion.
Like Gwen Stacy being a traitorous piece of shit, that is canon.
Levi Morris
>Do Marvel writers get off on that stuff? When in doubt, yes.
Daniel Barnes
>Like Gwen Stacy being a traitorous piece of shit, that is canon. Exactly, both are canon.
Gabriel Harris
>Millar said in an interview that Sue masturbated Namor to convince him to join Cap's side I keep hearing this but you got sauce with that claim?
Michael Thompson
Pretty much everyone in the Marvel universe is either an asshole or a piece of shit. Steve Rogers was spared from this until Civil War. Peter Parker succumbed shortly thereafter, as soon as One More Day happened.
There are no good people in the Marvel Universe.
Anthony Powell
you're a fuckin joke dude. and you have classic neckbeard syntax
Joseph Morgan
I'm not the one getting off to Marvel's flavored cuckold porn.
I'm the one opposing it. You Namor fans and Marvel writers are the ones asking for more.
Nathaniel Hall
What are you talking about? In the civil war, iron-man side started attacking him.
Gavin Martin
@96380330 haha at least you remembered to clear the name field this time, Namorfag
Cameron Clark
>reddit spacing The Namor autist is a newfriend, that actually explains a lot.
Luis Evans
>H-hey guys, look at him" He puts space between paragraphs! W-what a loser, right?! I expected better.
William Jones
@96380514 goodbye, Namorfag. have a miserable weekend.
Jaxon Hall
no
that sounds hilarious
Brayden Adams
It was hilarious.
"Your kiss your dad with that mouth?" "You can be my daddy, moth" "OOOOKKKK. I'm out! Take me to prison!"