Why has China not developed a stronger nuclear weapons capability?

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Nuking is a meme, who wants to conquer irradiated land

True, but wouldn't a 300-weapon-sized nuclear arsenal leave them exposed if suddenly missile defense technology were to take a big step forward? Or would they be able to rush-build enough nukes to make it not matter?

Chinas rivals are pacific nations with no nuclear weapons

modern china doesn't "develop"
they copy other peoples designs and dumb them down.
take a look at their military, everything is a dumbed down version of a russian design.

China has no use for nuclear weapons except for the sole implication that a war with China could turn nuclear.
It's not really a deterrence but influences public opinion.

Who gives a fuck? The US aint invading China. The US and the western world are too pussy to invade north korea which has a maximum of 10. Nukes cost a shitton and will never be used. America, Russia and the UK go full retard on defence spending.

It's focused on hyper-sonic missile technology instead.

No navy in the world, US, Russia or even China, has point defense systems capable of defending against hypersonic weapons, only supersonic and slower.

that includes laser Point defense systems.

By focusing on hypersonic weapon systems (and not just clumsy, large ICBM) they've secured the defense they need against any navy in the world, and can now focus on expansion (south china sea weaponized islands).

Nukes are played out.

>dumbed down version of a russian design
No, it's mostly dumbed down soviet designs.
China is not too good at military tech.

who needs nukes when you can zerg rush any opponent into oblivion?

They don't care. If needed they have the capability to build a nuclear arsenal in less than a week.

Congrats on the Death Rays btw, they look awesome.

roll that shit out in Syria plox.

Rush building nukes isn't that hard I think. The real Chinese problem is a lack of boomers to put them all on. It's hard to defend against missiles launched just off your own coast after all.

Wow you're a fucking retard.

You seriously know nothing. Lurk on /k for a while.

As far as we know they haven't developed their nukes.

But they're not a part of the Russian-American START (Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty) Where we send inspectors to inspect Russian nukes are complying with the treaty and Russians send Russian inspectors.
Since, as far as I know, no one is monitoring the Chinese and they could have stealth MIRVS.

Source: I worked on a nuclear weapons base and we had Russians walking around looking at our crap.

China has been besties with the US elite since Nixon.

In truth due to Americas influence only India and Russia are real threats.

I wonder if it matters. Since ICBMs reach their targets in under 40 minutes, does being able to deliver them in less time than that - in 10 or 15 minutes for example - really bring a very significant edge in terms of MAD? I suppose that if it doesn't yet, it might in the future if missile defense systems improve.

They are afraid they would nuke themselves.

They haven't been able to steal modern nuclear weapons technology yet.

China is probably the most vulnerable country to nuking.
All their population is concentrated in hubs around their coast.
Not to mention all those dams that could flood all the arable land if nuked.

They learned from USSR mistakes. Strong army doesn't mean anything in war between superstates. Its all about culture and economy, and overspending on military hardware doesn't help either of two.

Didn't have many technicians, China just isn't a tempting place to work for even for Russian nuclear technicians. They are fairly obvious about their nuclear weaponry though, hell if you take the bus out from Beijing to one of the bastions of the great wall you see at least four nuclear launch platforms and magazines.

>If needed they have the capability to build a nuclear arsenal in less than a week.
[citation needed]

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The fuckers are crazy. Dig the horses.

>China is probably the most vulnerable country to nuking.
The US too, pretty much West coast + California with some sprinkling inbetween and it's ded

China doesn't focus on nukes because they d9nt really employ a deterrenice policy since they don't keep their nukes operational. They store the warheads, missiles, and launch vehicles in different places under different chains of command. They do this because China is paranoid about anyone getting control and initiating a nuclear coup. It's the same reason different branches of their military are under different party officials and they have no joint command capability. They don't want anyone getting too much power.

>/k
>telling others to lurk
yeah nah m8

I admire the Chinese in some ways. Up until the late 1930s or so they were getting fucked by all kinds of foreign powers. They went from that to being a nuclear power in just 4 decades or so. Too bad they suffered from all the shittiness of Maoism.

>muh invincible carrier groups
usa = dead
ni hao bing chong ling bo

The American population is more spread around, they are actually less of a target than Europe.

Doesn't China have the most pathetic ground army out of the major powers?

I'm not sure how their navy stands against Russia

I know the US is LIGHTYEARS ahead of every other military power

If you want to intercept them, I think it matters. Not only do you have less time to detect, but the arc is also a lot flatter and shorter. Depending on where your interceptors are stationed, this makes all the difference.

>tfw we will never have a horse based nuclear war

You do realize how useless California actually is to the overall continuation of the US.

Worse they'll endure is an economic collapse but not a societal one. Losing the corn belt would be way worse.

>thinking nukes serve any real-world purpose
>1991+25

>I know the US is LIGHTYEARS ahead of every other military power
Yeah, that's why we lost to bunch of sandniggers in Afghanistan and getting pwned in Iraq and Syria.

We have one of the most powerful navies in the world. In over 50 years, no nation has dared to try and seize control of le Léman.

He means an actual war not region destabilization


>implying the US wants Syria to stop fighting

I actually study IR.
It is really really really simple why china doesn't develop new nukes: they do not want to enter into an another arms race with the US.

Right now they are in an arms catch up to the us on:
>fighters
>subs
>aircraft carrier

china's immediate goals is basically to deny access to the south china see.

you almost had epic digits but you suck. again, IR student here: you confuse strategic victory over tactical victory.

the US has great tactical capacity but strategically, that capacity meant shit in afghanistan/iraq.

Because they don't need them for all out war against USA
Just enough to destroy the cancer cell that is Japan

>I know the US is LIGHTYEARS ahead of every other military power
youtube.com/watch?v=wTjMqda19wk

If even half of them hit the largest cities of their enemy that pretty much ends the state. You don't need thousands of them.

Why they need it?
America never attack china since they are allies and Russia too busy with America to do anything.

We'll find your hidden waters one day you sneaky mountain jews

>rocket science is hard mode
> nuclear physics is hard mode
> nuclear engineering is hard mode
> what is nuclear waste?
> what is money?

The Chinese have a very serious nuclear capability. There is a point when you look at your nuclear stockpile and say to yourself "Yep. That's enough."

> China currently has the largest deployable nuke warhead, 5 megatons, active and ready to fire
> of all the nuclear powers in the world

Unless, of course, somebody is breaking international treaties and lying about what warhead(s) they have mounted and ready to fire.

> (theoretical nuke warheads that might be manufactured and deployed "sometime in the future" don't count for this point)

The Chinese are being pretty fucking smart. Instead of acting like niggers and swagging their swizzle and slapping dick in everyone's face, they have a condensed arsenal that is capable of wrecking the ever-loving fuck out of the world's shit. Every other government in the world is fully aware of it and there is no need for a dick-swinging contest to keep reminding everyone else to be terrified.

The fact that the Chinese have this capability and are just sitting quietly on it while they continue to science and space program and develop Africa and occupy & control all maritime resources out to Japan and down to Australia is deeply terrifying. To people that don't spend their time jerking off to their own shitposting on Sup Forums.

China will have next-gen nukes and delivery systems before the U.S. and Russia because they aren't wasting resources on obsolete tech. Google up "China space program" and get educated.

Why do u think we're selling all our nuke metal to them? They've probably got sneaky nukes accross all of Asia

Only the chinese have almost no logn range capabilities and their subs are soviet junk. No, lets not pretend that any western power is concerned about China and its imaginary stockpile not to mention its space program which isn't even up to Russian standards.

It's a waste of money

How the fuck does Pakistan have so many nukes

>chinese have almost no logn range capabilities
>their subs are soviet junk
>imaginary stockpile
>space program which isn't even up to Russian standards.

Poo in the loo I see you.

I think they were probably shit-scared and really motivated to build a nuclear program, since they were well aware that in any major war with India they would get destroyed by India's enormous quantitative advantages.

The East coast alone has more than 1/3 of the entire US population, 112 million in total. Pic related alone contains more than 50 million people.

They are only "more spread out" if you go by the average population per sq kilometer but the US has the majority of its population concentrated in small areas along the west and east coast.

If you count in the great leaks reagion you literally have the VAST majority of the US population concentrated in these three areas-East Coast, West Coast, The Great lakes.

>hey the most populated regions in the US are irrelevant
>its the fly over state that are TRULY relevant
lmao

>UK has that many nukes
>Corbyn wouldn't launch them

does Corbyn understand basic principles of NATO?

China is one of few non-retarded countries to not disclose all the statistics and secrets of their military.

China and the US have been allies since WW2. China fights over the rights of fishing islands around Japan and Flipland and Americans are sometimes called in to counter Chinese hegemony but have never been a threat to the US militarily.

No time in history did a Chinese leader openly threaten the US like North Korea, Russia, Cuba, ect.

>/k/
>relevant opinions

Thats like asking politico.com "experts" and "factchecker" about immigrants and republicans

China is economically dependent on the EU and their allies. Even Russia imports a fuckload of goods from them. Being at war is not in their best interest right now.

Highly unstable and degrading shit is very radioactive.

>Chinese have almost no long range capabilities
Their land based ICBM that entered service already in 80's can hit any point in the world except South America.

>China and the US have been allies since WW2
HAHAHAHAHAAHHA

>communist
>understanding things pertaining to reality
Pick one

Because they count on the US and Russia destroying each other.

China strategy is far less military oriented than Russia.
The chinese try to get their ways by strong arming their neighbors with immigration and economic soft power (see rising chinese presence in Siberia).

Despite the memes they have no interest in a confrontation with the US because if they did so it would automatically bankrupt them since all the debt would be immediatly wiped out.

Holy fuck I remember when the Russians revealed their new tank and /k/ became armoured vehicle designers and engineers over night.