You may not like it, but she's one of the most, if not, the MOST talented person in the animation industry right now

You may not like it, but she's one of the most, if not, the MOST talented person in the animation industry right now.

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pretty mediocre bait, newfriend

is this photoshopped to give her a big chin?

That doesn't really look like a person to me.

She's not. She a (((gem))).

She may be a talented artist and writer, but she’s a piss poor showrunner

Is there any evidence that she's a good artist?

>a challenger approaches

Is there any evidence she's a good writer?

>people keep replying

seriously guys, if you want to clean up the board, just resist the urge to reply

sage

Not by a country mile.

Nice samefagging

Yeah, her skill is phenomenal

Post this in a waifu thread if you want to fix this board fgt, at least this thread has the potential for actual discussion of cartoons, writers and animators.

Pick your fighter

she's talented, yes but never fall into conformity, you then drop off into mediocrity and settle. She could be better and she can do better, but then again making a cartoon takes a colossal amount of collaboration and everyone wants to put their spoon in the pot so i cant say its all her fault.

Pug Davis, the Rule 34, Steven Universe's pilot.

Yeah, no. I am mobilefagging, which I suppose is just as bad.

considering nobody can name anyone better with currently airing a show that isnt a raving sexual predator, I think you're right.

pretty sure she raped that tumblr story board artist

>her entire show is just nothing but lifts from anime and crying drama
>show has no structure both in story board and writing
>half the show is piss poor episode that have no sense of enjoyment or growth
>song are both choppy and most don't even go well with said singer
>art direction is a god damn mess
>most talented person in the industry

We are so fuck if that's true.

This. She had the misfortune of being so good that she was put in charge of a show before she was ready. Now they're either going to keep putting her in charge of shows or she's not going to have another opportunity. Either way, having been in charge of her own show means she's probably too high on the totem pole to apprentice under anyone who knows what they're doing like she needs to.

That's because the animation industry is garbage at the moment.

Ian JQ
Butch Hartman
Nefcy(she might be a sexual predator gut unconfirmed)
Pen Ward

>Creator of Wasted Potential:The Show
>The most talented

Please

She was in a unique position to do whatever she wanted and she fucking squandered it

>before she was ready.
she will never be ready then, for fuck sakes most the crew was AT writers, the RS and GB team had a lot more conflicts to overcome.

Also it's bullshit to think she will do better. Most get it right or they don't.

>being so good
Literally never
Even on AT she was hit or miss

She's not even the most talented woman in the industry

she's a dude

SU has more than it's fair share of flaws but holy shit does SvtFoE suck donkey dick

I refuse to accept that anyone likes that show for anything other than shipping and (shitty) waifus

/ournigga/ Ian is better

Stop ego stroking, Rebecca

To even jokingly says that shows the state the western animation scene is in, absolutely appalling.

Nick Cross off the top of my head
Jessica Borutski is a far better artist than Sugar

t. SUfag

he's basically showing how much he was the real vision behind the show.

There's also the stories she did for The Goon

I wish Genndy would come back and do a new show for CN in order to show these faggots how to actually create a cartoon

I wouldn't want Genndy anywhere near modern CN. Disney XD or even Nick would be probably okay

It's a far funnier show, the characters are consistent and charming, what about it ISN'T better than SU, besides some good backgrounds in SU.
Nigger* but this

Nice tribalism there fag

The fact of the matter is that there isn't a truly great cartoon airing right now and I don't see that changing any time soon

Ian JQ.

In this one you can even see adult Steven Universe in the crowd at the upper left of the last panel/ The prior page I showed it was unclear if Sugar did the pencils or not but for this particular story she was credited as the penciler.

>The fact of the matter is that there isn't a truly great cartoon airing right now
I would stand to agree nothing truly great, but there's a couple I'd say are "good". That said, that wasn't the initial issue you quoted me on at all

>It's a far funnier show
"Yelling and silly names are comedy!"
>the characters are consistent and charming,
Consistent? Perhaps, but nobody on the show was ever all that likable

This is correct, last one was Gravity Falls. And before then there was basically a LONG drought.

Yeah because her competence finished their works but while she is in hiatus.

>"Yelling and silly names are comedy!"
Did you only watch like episode 1 or something?

Adventure Time was notorious for its sloppy leadership. Sugar based her leadership style on Pen Ward because she liked how much freedom the storyboarders had, which wasn't the best idea. If you put her on a show working under anyone from the older generation, she'd learn pretty quickly how valuable it is to know when to limit everyone else's freedom.

>last one was Gravity Falls
GF is hampered by everything after NWHS being a complete downgrade. I refuse to believe people think GF is a great cartoon as a whole. Also, Mabel drags it down as it goes on. You cannot deny this. Her lack of character development and refusal of the show to let her truly be in the wrong prevents it from being great

Spouting Sup Forums talking points like a parrot doesn't make them any less false.

>The fact of the matter is that there isn't a truly great cartoon airing right now
What was the last great cartoon you've watched

>You could easily create a better cartoon than the garbage airing on TV these days
>Never given the chance cause you're not a minority and/or have any connections in the industry

Nepotism was a mistake.

hi mrenter

>Dexter
That's a 1/3 for shows he created. Why must Sup Forums pretend he's amazing?

>they want Genndy making cartoons
>after Samurai Jack season 5

>Spouting Sup Forums talking points
And yet they aren't wrong

Samurai Jack and even then it was a bit of a disappointment as far as the ending goes.

Other than that...uh nothing.
I can't even remember the last time a cartoon got me emotionally invested or immersed in it.

If you want actual story telling and direction you really need to find stuff outside of the US.

Well SvtFoE is a show that aims to a teenager audience, the big of this fandom is obviously young guys with a really bad taste or girls with a bad taste to choose their romantic comedies.

Truth be said there is nothing particularly good in Star vs, is a very cliche show with two or four good episodes.

What Season 5? T-there is no Season 5

>S5 wasn't perfect so lets just wipe all the merit the show has overall

Right

I'm willing to give him a second chance. It's not like S5 was 100% bad all the way

They're minor nitpicks, many of which are bullshit to begin with, made to sound like major problems.

>They're minor nitpicks
Mabel, one of the two main characters, being a bad character and a large stretch of episodes being underwheliming isn't exactly nitpicks

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But unironically.

Your standards are probably too high, you can't expect that much especially from a longer series.

I loved Over the Garden Wall. A few Gumball episodes are fantastic

>Truth be said there is nothing particularly good in Star vs
I tihnk that's a very strong opinion there bud. It's got decent characters, an actual story that builds on itself, knows when to cut it's fat and uses it's setting and lore quite well.

>is a very cliche show
I mean if you want to call it cliche because it feels like you blended a bunch of magical girl shows together, sure but it's not like there's a fuckton of those in the West

Both of those are bullshit. Especially the second one, several of the 2b episodes are among the very best in the show (DDAMD, TLM, DAMVTF), and the finale is great.

The fact that they underemphasized Mabel's character flaws doesn't change any of that.

I really don't understand why the guys upstairs let things go the way they do.
How hard would it be to just accept scripts/screenplays from people and then offer them a job if you like the work?

Japan completely destroys her cause any asshole over there has the potential to be huge as long as they has the skill/talent to back it up.

That's why despite Japan being seen as far more conservative than the US one of it's highest paid artist is a woman who primarily worked in the 80s/90s while everyone is flipping out in the US how girls are just getting into the industry this decade.

Even if they're shit stop pretending you could do better.
Point to one animatic you've made. Hell ANYTHING you've written or drawn.

Both are shit. Especially OTGW.

>OTGW
>shit
What the fuck exactly are your standards for a good show if something with as much heart and effort as OTGW more than anything else on that channel isn't considered good for you?

Ian JQ is based but those other 3 are lame

You realize the last pre-season 5 episode came out in 2004, right? There is such a thing as losing talent over the years.

Heart and effort isn't enough. You need talent as well.

Here

He did. And he created 3 golden episodes and proceeded to shit the bed with some of the most lame episodes in any action cartoon,and ending with one of the worst endings in any tv show ever.
It was the same level of dissapointment of steven universe but in 10 episodes

I understand. Please proceed with the killing of the self

Point me to anything substantially wrong with OTGW.

How does OTGW not have talent? Keep in mind, we're talking about modern CN here

What exactly is your problem with the show

>Pen Ward
>Hartman
>lame
You're life has no value. End it.

OTGW is fine but fucking EVERY OTHER JOKE in gumball is "le epic self-referential joke" and it's incredibly annoying

Mercy looks my my really cute first grade teacher

It's been 15 years but I still remember her

Hnnnggg

> Hell ANYTHING you've written

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Give me a cartoon now, thanks.

what's this from lad

Some people not having the requisite talent has precisely zero bearing on nepotism being awful.

This is actually true. If you see her peak work she has some genuine talent and skill that definitely outclasses her peers.

But she is also a terrible showrunner who can't control her staff, a mediocre writer and has no willingness to actually make her show break the mold or uphold quality.

look yeah i agree nepotism is bad but is also bad.

I'm not the original guy, but I do want a cartoon.

It's Nefcy, not Mercy, you retard.

...

When you say "she", you really meant to say he.
Right?

Damn, he looks like an alien.
Looks like Michael Jackson's genetically cloned back-up gone mutated.

>And now a few words from the latest roasting sensation: Mung Daal!

>Mung: Sugar? More like High Corn Fructose Syrup.

and has Japan generated any other female artists of her caliber.

This is the same showrunner who makes the entire storyboarding staff live at her hippie commune for a month whenever it's time to plan a new season.

I mean that artist you mentioned not Sugar.

Tons, are you kidding?

One of the biggest porn creators is a qt gril

Gonna boycott that show so hard.

so she is only as good as the men teach her to be? She some brain dead bimbo that needs men to make her great?

Just off the top of my head, Kaoru Mori, creator of Otoyomegatari. Her designs are magical.

Nah, Lauren Faust could probably whip her into shape, too.