Is Anastasia any good. I’ve only heard of it but never saw it

Is Anastasia any good. I’ve only heard of it but never saw it

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It's pretty generic. If you don't have any childhood nostalgia it won't do anything for you.

10/10 it was OK

Best Disney movie, imho.

But it's not a-
Oh.

No not really.

Like The Little Mermaid, the musical numbers are the only good things about what was an otherwise terrible movie

I wasn't a big fan, almost entirely because of the main character and her love interest. Their designs and animation were completely offputting when compared to the other characters and the background. Rasputin was cool tho.

Pretty average overall, but it's got a couple of really standout moments and 'Once Upon A December' is up there with some of the better Disney songs.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpEoMe4a0IE

This was Bluth trying his damnedest to compete with The Mouse at its own game, and the result was okay. It's no Land Before Time or Secret of NIMH, but it's also no Troll in Central Park or Rock-a-Doodle.

It was pretty good. The worst part of the movie is political. It depicts Imperial Russia, the country with bottom low living conditions and no human rights for almost all its population as some sort of fairy tale land with the sole problem of the evil sorcerer.

Most people would agree that this movie has one of the best villain songs in animation; In the Dark of the Night.

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true comrade, Lenin is the hero that the nation needed so bad

>There are people in this world that unironically believe this

It was actually, dont confuse what Stalin did with what Lenin wanted to do if you have properly studied them instead of just go, hur dur commies bad, Stalin had quite a different approach to the whole thing

He still is the greatest national hero in Russia despite decades of propaganda.

The romance subplot is pretty cute, songs are fun, character design is good. The biggest issue is...
This shit. If it wasn't based on real russia, and was more based on the idea of russia it would have been fine. Using the actual royal family and real names... not so good.

Have you read actually Das Kapital at least? SJWs loves to pander calling themselves Communist because they supposedly read the Communist Manifesto as that was the social aspect of the movement but they obviously didnt read the actual economic side of it that was Das Kapital, is not just hur dur lets seize the power and shit will magically work ... Vladimir Lenin wrote: "After his friend Karl Marx (who died in 1883), Engels was the finest scholar and teacher of the modern proletariat in the whole civilised world.... In their scientific works, Marx and Engels were the first to explain that socialism is not the invention of dreamers, but the final aim and necessary result of the development of the productive forces in modern society.
Lenin died 7 years before Hitler came to power and Stalin was clearly military minded and with a good reason though and people tend to forget the massive amount of casualties and damage to their whole infacture they sustained during the war.

It's pretty generic in terms of character and story, and some people might get pissy at the history changing ala pochahontas, but overall I'd say it's about as worthy a watch as any other sub-par disney movie.

At the very least it had a few good songs, "once upon a december" in particular, and some pretty fantastic background art/animation.

This pretty much.

Ayy, pretty much if you do a quick search you will see everyone that cites Marx they always go with the Manifesto but they always tend to ignore Das Kapital because they though the idea was "Free shit for everyone", is fucking not own the means of production is not be given free shit because fuck you why not, is that you own your actual work instead of be only given miser part of the profit generated by it, is obvious of those that dont read the actual thing properly and want to be given an easy life just because why not

I've ran into commies in my town that said they were Maoists because Russian communism didn't work like they wanted it to

I drink a lot now

It was good. Ignore faggots who try to turn the movie into a political discussion.

Not a good idea to get first hand into Das Kapital if you havent read Wage Labour and Capital.

He also ordered the execution of the Tsar and his family

i watched it as kid and hated every second of it. I grew up and watched the Broadway musical and hated every second of it.

Communism is still fucking terrible tho

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Absolutely mediocre. It's not awful but there's nothing good enough about it to merit sitting through the movie.

Man, why is Rasputin always the bad guy?

Rasputin was just an ascetic Christian who preached salvation through inner strength and contemplation rather than supplication to the church, and possibly helped Alexei through hypnotism. All the evidence we have suggests that he wasn't a bad guy at all, and his murder was a bunch of greedy fucks getting butthurt that he was so close to the Tsar and Tsarina.

He was a cat that really was gone, man.

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Well the royal family were a bunch of incompetent imbeciles and the revolutionaries weren't all that better. You read/watched Animal Farm right, same thing what happened to the USSR.

W-what?

I live near TWO very liberal colleges so I run into a lot of fucking retardation

>kulak detected

But how do they justify fucking Maoism?

I liked when she got shot in the face

idgi

if you've got a beef with this you can go find the broadway recording

they replace rasputin and all the supernatural stuff with a soviet general that's actually pretty sympathetic

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They seemed to have a very poor grasp on the consequences of their policies

I believe I ended the conversation with: Who the fuck cares what you think tho? You actively advocate for the deaths of millions
They went silent about their commie values after that and changed the subject

he's pretty /aesthetic/ desu, lends himself well to a lot of interpretations

Anastasia isn't Disney, it's dreamworks

user I...

I love it. Best song
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Unlike other anons I don't have a problem with any of the animation and thought it looked great.

My only beef is with the fucking ugly bat thing.

i know; i thought there was more to the joke than that

Addendum:
I've come to realize that when you begin to become confrontational, most commies either grow silent or try and deflect

I'm not really educated with a lot of history, so I enjoyed it a lot for what it was. It had great songs, nice visuals and animation, and Pooka is the cutest animal sidekick.

the music is the only good part

but it's pretty good music

It's great. The songs and settings are beatiful and it has great VA latam dub as well.

I agree that the animation was offputting for those characters. Something about their faces was just so overdone, like the person was used to seeing theatre actors over-emoting so the expressions would be more visible to audience members seated in the back.

As much as I love that song (and I really do love it), it doesn't fit with the rest of her dialogue, where she is 100% skeptical and doesn't think she's even remotely related to royalty. That's what's always bothered me on re-watching it as an adult.

Dude, that gave me nightmares as a kid, but the song is indeed awesome.

Did your levels of hatred change? Was the Broadway show equally bad to you, or was it worse?

Is it any good overall?

It's very disney-esque

>Dude, that gave me nightmares as a kid, but the song is indeed awesome.
Then you opened your eyes and the nightmares were you?

Yes. I was the monster all along.

i'm the guy who recommended it

it's a decent musical and it does some intriguing things with the characters and the truer-to-history setting, but the dialogue isn't the best and the added songs aren't too great, with a few exceptions

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they remixed in the dark of the night's refrain into a really nice melancholy solo piece

It's a good song but when you stop to listen some of the lyrics are really weird
>Tie my sash and a dash of cologne for that smell

Because any dude who was as hard to kill as him clearly had to have some sort of supernatural connection.

Maybe it has to do that unlike fucking Sup Forumsacks or SJW when you see what your views are you are not going to waste your time talking with you about this unlike what you like to think about it

I think you left out some words in your grammar

I thought this was a meme until I actually talked to somebody who brought up this movie as a "Disney movie" and I had to convince them otherwise.

In some alternate universe Disney made Anastasia and Fox made Hercules.

>Journey to the Past
>Once Upon a December
>In the Dark of the Night
>At the Beginning
>dat score

Does Anastasia have the best soundtrack for an animated film ever?

No.

it's still pretty good though

Once Upon a December makes my dick SO HARD

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The man gassed workers.

then ate them.

You don't have to praise Lenin to acknowledge that Imperial Russia was a shithole. There were some attempts from the royal family to improve things (Alexander II comes to mind), but they were rare and the living conditions were absurdly terrible for a 20th century country. For example, in 1897, only about 20% of the Russian population could read and write - this is roughly the literacy rate of the Roman Empire, 2000 years earlier.

The only part I really remember outside of Sophie.

Hell no.

>and his murder was a bunch of greedy fucks getting butthurt that he was so close to the Tsar and Tsarina.

You mean he was killed by British intelligence service because they were worried that he would had been able to convince czar to try to make peace with Germans which would had allowed them to send shitload of men to the western front and overwhelm British and French forces there.

No. Read up and you'll find some heroes Russia needed and didn't get, in part because Lenin.

One of the most horrifying things about Soviet Russia is that the SSSR was an improvement. That's probably even shittier than overthrowing Saddam Fucking Hussein and making things worse.

Is St. Petersburg gloomy and bleak?

only in russophobic Don Bluth's fantasies.

as long as you don't worry too much about actual Russian history, I think it's a fun journey of a girl trying to find meaning in her life. Or something.

If the communists didn't care about Russian history, why should I?

Yes

Thank goodness for the gossip. It gets you through the day?

I love the song but the scene isn't great. The bugs turn it from menacing into just goofy.

Its up there with "Endgame" from Chess as the song I listen to whenever I feel like a bad person.

People like you are the reason why Russians crave for Tsars. When will you westerners realize that Russians value being left the fuck alone over anything, including human rights and ideology?

>Russians value being left the fuck alone over anything

user pls, Russians are tsundere as fuck for the West.

If they are they would be building bases over in Mexico and Morrocco.

>There are few nations that have done more for human rights

Russia had effeminate action in times when The West had apartheid and human zoos. Russian help for nations around the world to fight western imperialism is invaluable.

The dialogue and banter in this movie is top tier. Snd it has Frasier.

10/10

I am Russian, not westerner. Just stop this rusophobic "Russians are savages crave for Tsars" bullshit.

Are you squatting right now?

>effeminate action

Should be "affirmative", it's just sounds the same.

>St. Petersburg
>not Leningrad

daily reminder that Lenin did literally nothing wrong

The SIS connection has more holes in it than a beehive. There's a reason it's considered a fringe theory.

your point?

Stalin and Hitler did had a pact and british intelligence does butt in more than it does not.

I may have to rewatch this damn thing cause a lot of people in this thread really like the music but I don't remember it being that amazing.

if you empty your mind of considering the movie being remotely true to history yeah its a fun movie.
they really shouldve been more fantastical instead of going pseudo historical

Yeah, and Hellboy's Rasputin is based (partially because it acknowledges that he wasn't a bad guy in life; it was only after his 'death', when the Dragon got into his head, that he turned sour), but why are almost all fictionalizations of him evil? I can't think of a single instance where Rasputin turns up as a supernatural good guy rather than an antagonist. He's always some kind of evil wizard or Satanist or something, when in reality he lived a lifestyle and preached a manner of salvation closer to the bread and butter of Jesus' teachings than that of any big organized Christian branch.

It just strikes me as markedly unfair.

For the same reason most depictions of Hades are him evil.

>in reality he lived a lifestyle and preached a manner of salvation closer to the bread and butter of Jesus' teachings than that of any big organized Christian branch.
he was a drunkard and womanizer known for violent binges and sexual promiscuity, he was far from jesus.
he is seen as evil because his fanaticism and influence over the russian royal family lead to the collapse of russia. he insisted that he go to the front lines to bless the troops but was denied with the generals threatening to hang him if he eve got close to the frontlines. dejected and angry he then proclaimed he had a divine revelation that the only way to the win war now was to have the tsar go to the front lines to lead the troops. and we all know how having a leader flee the country during tumultuous times worked out.
he was also corrupt as fuck, he used his influence over the tsarina to elect his hand picked officials for government positions, many people bribed their way into office through rasputin.

This triggers me to no fucking end
>one of the more altruisic of the greek gods
>chill, doesnt wig out unless you do shit like try to steal his wife (irony but still)
>like the only greek god who was faithful to his spouse, relationaship is monogamous and bullshit free minus the initial kidnappng with wife moderating him
>everyone thinks hes like a greek version of the devil thanks to Hercules
they also conventiently left out all the times Hera was a jealous bitch who tried to kill Zeus' bastards like Dionysus and they're just a loving couple. thats childrens movies using real life shit for you

This is the depiction I have always been taught in world history. He was basically seen as a bad influence on the monarchy, or at least some kind of noisome leech.

>and Fox made Hercules.
this makes more sense than it should