Bittersweet Candy Bowl - /bcb/

"It was just a throat-punch bro" edition

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I hate.

The two worst characters

>punched someone in the windpipe by surprise
>kept one of his girlfriend's oldest friends away from her, making her very sad
>threw a tantrum when he was found out because he knew what he did was wrong
>dumped his girlfriend for not approving of beating up her friend and lying about it
>"a really caring person"

Sue has the worst opinions.

>>"a really caring person"
Abbey is by bagboy and Vero's relationship standards.

This is as clumsy an attempt at forcing an ill-fitting character interpretation as the "look how childish paulo is u guise" stuff from the carnival chapter.

The kicker isn't how bungled that projection is, that is how contradictory it is compared to back when comic wasn't chibi bait.

>slash bcb slash
>-edition
this is just mod-bait

You make your sister ashamed, Abbey!

At some point you stop reading this for any consistency and more for Vero's screwed-up view on relationships and friendships.

Like, with the way the cosplay chapter went in terms of melodrama, you'd think Abbey and Sue were SUPPOSED to look bad in the last panel, but it's being played for "aw shucks" humor. Any other implication would require a complexity this comic just isn't capable of.

What did she mean by this?

>you'd think Abbey and Sue were SUPPOSED to look bad in the last panel
This is what baffles me. How can you see them as anything but fucked up people?
At least more fucked up than the usual in this comic

>At some point you stop reading this for any consistency and more for Vero's screwed-up view on relationships and friendships.

So "used to be decent with premise for getting better" got changed into "let's see how deep this gets ran into the ground with no survivors"

That's how bcb rolls!

>it's not like I should stop hanging around with Michael to avoid Daisy, right?
So he's saying he IS going to avoid Daisy?

I understand that it's awkward, but what's the point of "closure" if he's going to significantly change his behavior (at the cost of friendships) anyway?

Is this the dawn of Sabbey!?

>Suefags getting fucking owned
How's that dick taste fucker?

>At some point you stop reading this for any consistency and more for Vero's screwed-up view on relationships and friendships.
She's just a woman, most of them think like that

I'm pretty sure she and Suitcase are in an abusive relationship.

>page and current storyline is so bad that the thread is dead.

So how's the gullible normies handling the "let's hate Polo" thing right after the universally bad out of character carnival chapter?

Well, I do hate Paulo but mostly because his character isn't even his own it's what the story needs Paulo to be at that moment. I'm not going to be one of those delusional people who attached themselves to a Paulo that has long since been dead.

this has been implied
she is probably emotionally unstable and roofucker is controlling, so here's hoping we get some domestic violence up in this bitch

People on the FB are calling Abbey and Sue for being assholes on this page. People are especially pissed off at Sue for her hypocrisy. Either Vero or Suit put an impotent "Please support Sue" message in the comments, so that tells you that Sue's supposed to look good here.

First comment is literally just "fucking asshole cat." They basically still read this for the same reasons we do.

>retroactively and actively ruining my favorite character
Just end the fucking comic already

>DUDE THROAT PUNCH LMAO

If a character acts one way and then acts radically different without there being a good reason in the context of the story then suspension of disbelief breaks down, but the character's original portrayal remains "real".

Hence people remembering how Paulo used to be and rejecting the several whiplash turns the character's been subjected to.

Codependency isnt quit abuse and i doubt bagman is enough of a man to actually throw hands.
Theyre both clingy weirdos that have nowhere else to go since theyve thrown their lot in with each other for so long.

>this page

They're in open revolt. How long until they shud it down?

Could you screenshot the facebook comments? I'd check them myself but for some reason they won't load no matter how long I wait. Maybe I need to have an account but fuck that.

Anyway, I never liked Paulo even before he had his character ground into a fine paste, but Sue's being a real cunt. At least Abbey acknowledges that what he did is wrong, even if he does it in a joking, I-don't-give-a-shit way. Taeshi has this odd habit of trying to make her female characters into voices of reason by making them act like uncaring assholes. I'm hoping this pointless shit is over soon. I was hoping we'd get to see something new this chapter.

OPEN THE DAMNED BOX ALREADY

It's a dildo, jeez.

Why else would she avoid being there except for dodging blame? Shit character sperging?

You all noticed this page is bait to fans to ship those 2 even thoug is clear they will never date.

Is panel 8 a hint at a new ship?

get to work.

I love you.

They aren't in "open revolt" there or on the FB comments. Just a bunch of people saying they're disappointed in Sue. You're all so thirsty for drama where there is none

Suit is so hung up on controlling reception to the comic that contradicting a statement from the official account looks like "open revolt"

Kek, that's true...

Luv u bae

Updated for canonical older hair styles, I love you so much J man.

You're a god among us, user.

>Taeshi is ruining Sue again

Goddammit, my favorite character. Why must they keep kicking her down like this?
Pic unrelated, just need something to drown out the sadness.

when day is dark
always rember happy day

But he didn't do anything except post a joke comment that's totally rolling with it. Nothing is being deleted, no arguments are taking place. What is wrong with you?

Except that Paulo might as well be reconnect and what we have now is nu-polo. There should always be a distinction between the two Paulos in bcb threads.

*retconned or however is spelled is what I meant

>Liking Sue
You deserve everything bad that you get.

Agreed. She's my favorite too, but only because I like what she could've been rather than how she really is.

We shouldn't be that surprised either way. Pic related, literally minutes after Abbey's throat-punch both Mike and Daisy knew something fishy was up, yet Sue could only gloat about how she was glad Paulo fucked off. She has no right to judge Abbey. But still, laughing at it after Abbey explicitly stating it is still pretty shitty.

No fuck you. Sue USED to be (at least) decent. Not my fault Taeshi's doing everything she can to make her unlikable.

note that sue had to really think about a way to say something that was technically true.

He cares a lot about his own feelings.

Trying very hard to think of something positive to say about Abbey that was also true and relevant to the situation..

ahh yes, be proud that you fucking elbowed someone in the fucking throat. Come on.

Even Polo wouldn't stoop so low, though "dead mom" jokes are only slightly above it.

Honestly, the same can be said about almost any of the significant characters.

But Paulo and Lucy are those affected the worst so far

His reasons for punching Paulo in the windpipe (to try and keep him away from Daisy because of jealousy and a desire for control) were shitty and the actions of a fuck boi.
That being said, any other time Paulo was being a shit to Abbey and he wanted to whup his ass would have been completely understandable.

Welp, I guess that's it. The nail to the coffin, if that was actually missing

twitter.com/Taeshi/status/926562419035471874

>elbowed
It was a choke slam. I swear, this must set a new record for time elapsed between event and retcon. I think Taeshi has some kind of addiction.

Yeah, I agree. I even think he could've had a showdown with Paulo in the bathroom that I would've been fine with. But because he decided to be so fucking cowardly and fake about it and suckerpunch him violently it just removes most of the sympathy I have for him.

Like, even if he just told him to back off and it escalated and he threw the first punch I'd still be able to stand him more than how he did it.

It's also especially gross with how he tries to present himself as this upstanding heroic figure with all the right intentions. Dude is erratic and cowardly and gross.

Fresh pic for the curious.

>It's also especially gross with how he tries to present himself as this upstanding heroic figure with all the right intentions. Dude is erratic and cowardly and gross.

Yep, that's it. I was trying to figure it out for some time why Abbey irks me the wrong way and that's it.
That smile he gives right before punching him, it's disgusting.

A shame that apparently Taeshi does think he's heroic

>Hypocrisy on Twitter.

I'm not in the slightest surprised that the horribad character development are being defended with bad excuses.

I'd be more shocked at a genuine "this was a really stupid idea, why didn't you tell me instead of being YES people?" comment.

>A shame that apparently Taeshi does think he's heroic

Eh? I must've missed this.

Polo VS tantrum cat, with the author constantly shitting on the former in all of the situations.

Teeeends to leave a impression of favoritism

And all that "protecting Daisy" justification and then emotionally blackmailing Daisy with that "choose sides" bullshit? Textbook abusive relationship

Where is his comeuppance? He has got Sue's approval. Sue is rarely wrong in this comic and this will become rarer and rarer as Taeshi becomes this and you realize Sue is basically Hillary Clinton

Alright, I’ll take the bait.

1. Besides the obvious SJW shenanigans, is she really trying to act like everyone criticizing her is doing so from a conservative standpoint? I’ve checked; freaking Tumblrites are reacting in confusion to the story turns you’re doing here. Stop defending your dumb decisions with politics.

2. Your comic isn’t as progressive as you think, hun: your “is polo a bi” subplot was completely pointless, Sue and Tess’ sexuality came out of nowhere with no prior development and were shoehorned in, Jessica lost all aspects of her personality when she started dating Madison, and Matt is completely pointless. THIS is what people mean when they say “pandering”: writing to meet a quota instead of as people. Plus, this is still supposed to be the late 2000s, right?

3. I actually laughed out loud at the “only conservatives want a status quo” thing. As if wrecking everyone’s character to have MikexLucy/PauloxDaisy be the endgame despite having a whole “Lucy’s abuse has consequences” arc isn’t status quo.

>Addiction for retcons
I guess that's a way to describe chronic storytelling laziness

This is in response to a retweet from earlier, not about the newest BCB page

>Your comic isn’t as progressive as you think, hun: your “is polo a bi” subplot was completely pointless

Polo's gay moments feels just like that one token effeminate gay stereotype who were last witnessed in the Halloween chapter that got retconned hard, except political correct enough so yaoi Dumblr's would still squee over it while the "gender specials" wouldn't get that much upset about it.

TL:DR
Same shit as before, just with a existing character and "with a coat of fresh paint" so to speak.

>Sue and Tess’ sexuality came out of nowhere with no prior development and were shoehorned in
Wait sue's sexuality?

...

I guess It truly tries to be like Tumblr favorites like QC, where being straight is now a endangered minority.
Irony.

Sue’s sexuality hasn’t been mentioned, Tess’s bisexuality wasn’t mentioned at all except for a guest comic Tae didn’t write, everything else you mention is an opinion (though widely shared here, where mainly conservatives post)

Also, this was in the context of someone criticizing QC for pandering by including a few queer relationships. Tumblrites don’t usually complain about this, so your post is pretty misguided as a response

>widely shared here, where mainly conservatives post

Or, since there's a veil of anonymity, people are more honest instead of saying what people expect them to say?

Shit, I'm pretty darn leftist since I strongly believe in holding corporations accountable for their dirty deeds and also strongly support socialised healthcare, education and financial help for those down on their luck.

But that doesn't mean I'll turn a blind eye to blatant pandering, because that's stupid which makes you (and in extension the left) look stupid, and it's also a waste of effort, which serves more center leaning people on a silver platter to the right.

Do it right or don't do it at all, Vero is currently doing a Hillary where she's targeting far lefties but outright neglecting those closer to the middle.

Keep in mind I didn't directly say it needs more Klanmembers or staunch religious doctrine, I'll leave that to the drive-by shitposting Sup Forumstards who can't form a sentence just like their God-emperor.

>Hillary targeting far lefties

Not that guy, but she did try racial pandering rather than economic. In fact, Bernie got shat on for focusing on economic policies over racial bullshit.

Guy who made that post here, I'll admit that it's kind of incoherent. My thing was that Taeshi responded to this post with the notion that she's applied the QC approach to her own storytelling, implying that her personal politics is more important to the storytelling than general consistency, which as a leftist even I disagree with. It just seems like an excuse, like how the No Man's Sky guys tried to blame GamerGate for their game's bad reviews. It's disingenuous. Though you're right in that Tumblrites aren't criticixing the pandering; they ARE criticizing the inconsistency in character and weird plot turns though. I didn't mean to give a false impression though, my bad.

thanks man

OK, so she targeted far lefties by “racial pandering”. The other half of that sentence was “but outright neglecting those closer to the middle” - what does this mean in relation to racial pandering? Or are you getting appearances on Oprah mixed up with actual quantifiable policy, a sphere in which calling Hillary a politician who "panders to leftists” is something entirely insane?

I have not seen a lot of criticism of the comic on Tumblr tags but then again I blocked that autistic comic guy

Anyway I do not see her implying personal politics is more important than consistency, that is your spin on it. What she wrote seems pretty erudite imo, an “excuse” at worst but I don’t agree that any author can avoid needing to make the same excuse if their views change

>what does this mean in relation to racial pandering?
It's pretty well known she totally ignored the white working class that's formed a big segment of the Democrat voting base for some time now. Ignored them so hard she lost the election, in fact.

>Sue is rarely wrong in this comic

Yes, but not because she spent all her time hanging out with her homies in Jackson Mississippi. If you need to use the word, Hillary neglected rust belt states by “pandering” to large urban centers, still largely white, and none of which have politics that could be described as anything approaching leftist unless you read a lot of conservative opinion pieces and have your perspective all fucked up

Which I think does, and it undercuts their “shit, I’m leftist, but Tae is neglecting the centrist readers” argument, hiding their bias

plot reasons.

California is pretty leftist, so far as said urban centers go.

If Abbey had punched him in any of the other times Paulo was fucking with him he would be right, but instead he sucker-punched him in the throat because "hurr stay away from my GF to whom I'm a consolation prize".
I don't like Paulo, but I do hope Abbey ends up as roadkill.

As far as large states in the USA go, yes, but this is a very distorted picture. For Hillary Clinton to pander to leftists, she would have proposed an NHS, a massive downsizing of the military, and specific, significant new taxes targeted at the rich

She did not. Charitably, in the US context, you could say some parts of her DNC platform (which would have been ignored, as they all are) were center-left as far as American politics go, but “leftist” or even “left” at all in a global context is laughable Sup Forums shit

>admires stabhand and his endless boring shit comic
>chip on her shoulder about bad writing as long as it has the right politics
>become averse to effort
As as artist she's doomed.

Relevant captcha confirms her fate.

Also there's a big different between a punch in the arm or a cuff across the head and a grip to the throat. There's such a thing as playfighting as that wasn't it. Abbey a shit.

You're wrong, though. She absolutely did pander--just not well. For example, when it was very apparent that Bernie was getting nearly all the young leftists due to his more radical economic policies, Hillary started throwing out lines about free university tuition to ape him and get some votes. It's just that most Bernie supporters saw right through her.

Paulo definitely deserved to get his nose broken on certain occasions, but Abbey still chose the most retarded one.
Abbey really is a shit.

Provide examples of when Paulo gave Abbey a really hard time.

HARD MODE: You may not use the retcon flashback in ch.90 as it was specifically created to sharply change Paulo's character (and Abbey's, too, for that matter).

Also note that Abbey never seemed bothered by the comment about his mother nor about being "forced" to get back with Daisy as he was blushing like the virgin schoolboy that he is seconds later. He ACCEPTED Paulo's admonitions.

Like seriously, Molly would probably be really disappointed in Abraham for beating people up and trying to keep a girl under his thumb.

That's what she's saying, though! It's the problem me and have. No matter the politics, BCB is failing on a general story and character level. Also, "erudite"? You're okay with where the story's going?

I'll concede I can't be bothered to look it up specifically, but talking shit about one's deceased mother, a topic which is especially emotionally charged given the circumstance, definitely deserves a proper punch.
And not as part of a gag or something, a punch straight to the jaw, 100% serious.

>No matter the politics, BCB is failing on a general story and character level.

Exactly, it just happens to try and shield it itself from criticism by being politically correct, but the political correctness implemented ended up degrading it further from a cynically neutral standpoint.

Vero essentially needs to learn how to separate her own opinions from storytelling, but little too late for that since a chunk of the shit got printed.

So too late to declare it "official fanfiction" and purging it from main comic.

t. like daddy

Amaya is very submissive.

Yeah actually, I love what she is doing with Sue’s character, Mike, Paulo. I can see how it gets a rise out of the worst parts of the fandom

t. Leftist

Gotta troll harder than that, user.

And yet the comic showed him not giving a shit.

You can call it bad and inconsistent character writing, like everything Paulo has done for the past number of chapters, but it's there.

Which is not even to mention that I don't recall Abbey ever talking about his mother and certainly not enough for anyone to complain that he did it all the time in a self-pitying way.

Almost like how Paulo isn't a bad guy but shitting on him has become mandatory at every opportunity.

"like daddy" is exactly what happened when he elbow'd Paulo's throat because mah GF.
Punching someone who's clearly provoking you is absolutely justified however.

To be even MORE justified he could even warn him first.
he provokes him.
>"cut that shit out"
he keeps doing it.
punch him.

Even if he didn't give a shit (which I'm pretty sure he did), he would be absolutely right to get pissed at it.