Luke Skywalker

>a boring Force God that never loses in the old EU
>a boring dickless loser in the new movies

Why hasn’t anyone been able to do anything interesting with Luke since Return of the Jedi?

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Maybe Luke just isn’t an interesting character and needs other characters to prop him up? I cared more about Darth Vader’s personal crisis in Return of the Jedi than anything Luke went through in any of these movies.

>>a boring Force God that never loses in the old EU
besides losing his family, his mentor, his other mentor, his hand, and his father?

Childhood is finding a hero in Luke Skywalker
Adulthood is realizing Ben Kenobi is the best Star Wars character.

Those... all happened in the movies user.

im on shrooms, what is this thread

EU, the shitty books that were released by the shovelful and written to please only the most embarrassing of fans.

because his character arc was closed

>Heir of the Empire
>Shitty

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You know that 95% of those books were abysmal shit - like Dark Empire, for example.

Dark Empire is one of the only stories to do anything interesting with Luke, get the fuck outta here.
He goes to the darkside with Palp to better understand his father.

Because his story is done. Luke completed his character arc, and became a better person because of it. There's no reason for him to go through that exact same character arc decades later, as though he never learned anything. Nor is there any reason for him to turn into Space Goku, who fights battles and talks to others without growing as a person.

The shill hate is real.

>force ghosts behind you

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Bringing Sheev back from the dead and having Luke go to the dark side does more to invalidate the ending of RotJ than anything the sequel trilogy does, autist

>oh but he was just pretending to go dark xDDD

even more retarded and pointless, then. It was a marketing stunt and nothing more.

In overall EU canon it's sort of retarded, but as a look into Luke's character it's pretty enjoyable.

At least the EU was respectful of Luke, they were not going to Fuck up the epic.

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>brainlets still don't understand unreliable narrator

two people tell variations of the story where look is a monster in both

Disagree.
The ending when Luke talks about knowing how his father felt is the perfect capstone to his character.

agree

This picture encapsulates why Rian Johnson is a worthless hack.

It not only takes the over all theme of his entire fucking movie, and crystallizes it in to the biggest fucking star of his movie. But it exposes how pathetic of a creative force he is to basically deconstruct empire strikes back and play it in reverse.

Rian Johnson is good for one thing only. Carrying out the wills of the female writing team like the cuck in his cage should. Everyone else wants to make a competent, entertaining, Star Wars movie. He just wants to mock fans and talk about his feminist agenda.

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>>a boring Force God that never loses in the old EU
Except he isn't in the good stories.
Heir to the Empire trilogy being the best example.

I’m fine with The Last Jedi. That was about the best you can do with the situation that JJ wrote Luke into with The Force Awakens. JJ is to blame for what Luke was dealt with. He treated Han and Leia with some respect but Luke was crapped on because he sucks at writing.

>i-i-its supposed to be stupid!

>that chapter where Luke describes hot chocolate
kino

What? Have you ever visited Tumblr and Twitter? The feminists think that he is a racist and a misogynist because he liked making Kylo Ren a bigger character and didn’t do anything with Finn and because Laura Dern was “racist” to Poe.

Is Ulic Qel-Droma more compelling a character than anything in the new canon?

Fuck off. He gave Luke so much to do and expand on. But because Rian doesn't give a fuck about Star Wars he just collected a check, spread his name and wiped his ass with what ever JJ passed on.

There was a whole back story of the knights of Ren, his whole fucking Jedi academy with his star pupil being Ben Solo. And we got nothing.

We had the force basically thrusting the Light Saber in to Reys hand and it's connection to the Skywalker family ready for some meaty exposition and revelation. Instead we get pointless wet holes, and Canto Bight.

That was like the first few pages you idiot and it was gay

>That was about the best you can do with the situation that JJ wrote Luke into with The Force Awakens.
Bullshit.
All that was in TFA was that Luke fucked off to an island. The reason was never stated, and since we knew jack shit about Snoke, the First Order, Kylo's fall or the knights of Ren, there could be any number of reasons.

Maybe Luke was worried about his own anger at snoke/kylo and wanted to center himself before joining the fight
Maybe he wanted to learn ancient wisdom to counter a threat unique to snoke
Maybe he had a secret academy that he wanted to protect
Maybe Snoke was a specialist at mind games, and had manipulated Luke
Maybe it was Luuke all along, and the real Luke was active and ready elsewhere

But Lando give him tasty drink and say "this called hot chocolate" and audience say "I know hot chocolate, and this reminds me that the characters are human"

Its sad when your best defense is a claim that the scene is so bad that one or both characters are remembering it wrong to the audience, without evidence.

>without evidence

how about the fact that we're shown the same events three different times and it's always different?

But was it made with blue milk? Who gives a fuck. The EU has always been a cash in. The only story worth redeeming from the EU is Shadows of the Empire. And that's only half way entertaining because of Kyle Katarn making Leias panties wet while Han is frozen in Carbonite.

ALL of the clone war multimedia project is kino

Luke was fine. The rest of the movie was disappointing.

Only George, Kasdan, Lawrence and Hamill understand his character at all. Only Kasdan was ever consulted, only for the ST, and apparently not much.

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>Heir to the Empire
>cash in
You do realise that Star Wars interest had been waning for years before HttE was released, right?
It was so successful on its own merits that it's credited with inspiring George to make the Prequels.

>unreliable narrator
>luke admits he told a lie then tells the truth

brain damage?

>apparently not that much

he fucking co-wrote TFA you mong

It's almost like that was the point of the story. And introducing the bisexual mob boss Xixor.

>tfa only says luke is away on an unknown planet
>oh god, JJ put fucking shackles on RJ, what else could he have done other than flash backs that don't explain shit and have him relearn the lessons he learned in the OT

neck yourself. TFA set up literally anything. All it said was that he was gone. Literally didn't even say that he was the reason that Ben joined Snoke.

There is only one credited writer. Rian Johnson.

>Heir to the Empire
>Xixor

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Because he decides he would ratber die than put up with this garbage?

because one of the times is an admitted lie?

hence the unreliable narrator you fucking idiot

jesus christ Sup Forums really is retarded

Shadows of the Empire. Keep up you silly bitch.

And where the fuck was that mentioned in
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It was pointing out that Heir to the Empire was quite blatantly not a cash in, and that was all..
Where the fuck did you get Shadows of the Empire from that?

I dunno, admitting that you lied is pretty honest

Luke lies and kylo lies, both to suit their own agendas and make Rey (and the audience) sympathetic before we find out the truth

Lando was refering to his sticky, hot chocolate load

say hello to my chocolate blend!

We know the truth you retard, it changes nothing. Luke was still a fuckin psycho, despite changing his mind at the last second this is still inexcusable.

haha dude le drugs lmao

>It was so successful on its own merits that it's credited with inspiring George to make the Prequels.
[citation needed]

>a brief moment of weakness where he considers a horrible act to save lives is psychotic

it makes him human you autist

It's just re-doing his arc from the OT for no reason though.
He already learned to get over the dark side.

>dickless

I must have missed the scene where Kylo Ren cut off Luke's penis.

This. Luke can work in the background as a Jedi Master or whatever, both EU and Last Jedi versions are trash.

>I’m fine with The Last Jedi

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based dunkaccinoposter

many, many reasons

Just because he resisted temptation once doesn't mean he conquered temptation as a concept and wouldn't think about doing a bad thing ever again

that's not how people work

>He treated Han and Leia with some respect

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Han was written poorly, Leia was written well but Fisher was too coked out and botoxed so she acted like shit.

Im only just watching Episode 8 now, what a tragic pile of leftist shit.

I hope everyone at Disney dies horrible painful deaths.

But, in the EU he was used as a punching bag for every pet character to show how great they were.

>Oh, look Corran Horn's lightsaber is longer and wider than Luke's

Because the people who own the rights don't actually care and have always green lit ideas like a parent eager to shoo their pestering child off.
>They told me it's guaranteed money. Just do whatever.

> That was about the best you can do with the situation that JJ wrote Luke into with The Force Awakens
HE WASN'T EVEN IN TFA. "best you can do with a completely open ended gift, layup of an opportunity to do absolutely anything you wanted with a missing Luke that went to go find the first Jedi temple".

Christ, I know I've taken the bait hard but come on. TLJ was impossible to fuck up Lukes character but as Rian and Kathleen have basically said they actively went out to subvert his character, the did the only thing that could possibly fuck up the return of Luke Skywalker by fucking up every single scene, motivation, action, decision, emotion, logic whatever.

Ok but why retread?

JJ is a coward, he was afraid of messing with Luke. Why do you think TFA was a retread of the original movie with bits of Empire Strikes Back? He was playing it safe the whole way through. Now that Rian has shit the bed he can come back and do whatever he wants.

Even Lucas was going to kill off Luke but that was going to be in Ep. 9

Disney just sped it up.

Episode 9 will not be good for the same reason no episode 8 could have been good.
TFA is a shit story/status quo with no potential.

But Luke was also going to be heavily featured in Lucas's episode *7*, so we would have had three Luke movies, not one.

Is it not enough for Luke fans that he pulled off the most insane force ability in the canon?

Yoda and Palpatine couldnt do that shit.

It's just dumb that he died when the "force projection kills you" thing was so lazily integrated into the story.

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