What's your opinion of cross cultural influences? Like the anime style being used for western cartoons...

What's your opinion of cross cultural influences? Like the anime style being used for western cartoons, or a western genre interpreted by the east?

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since every western comic no is just sjw shit about "strong wyman" and minority super heroes I´m glad that japan is actually bothering to produce super hero content that normal people can actually enjoy

I like Deku

Samurai Jack is great.
RWBY is shit, though.

They can be nice if done right not like SU where it's just "lol I watched this one popular scene in anime so here you go guise kool reference,huh?" Pizza evangelion being the worst.

It's kind of interesting to see Japan's interpretation of the super hero genre, in Tiger and Bunny, My Hero Academia, and One Punch Man, heroes are all registered and part of an organized system, where popularity and presentation plays a huge Role in the in universe world

Wondering why that is?

I don't care.

I love BNHA, but people need to shut up about how "hurr durr, Japs won westerners at their own game xD", it's so obvious how a person who says that never picked a comic in his life. BNHA is nice but it will never ever ever have something as good as Daredevil Born Again, Spider-man's Happy Birthday, Grant Morrison's X-men and etc.

I take example from Marvel because Hori is very obviously a Marvel fag.

Idol culture maybe?

nigga what are you talking about? one punch man has a 99% male cast and like just one stereotypical black dude and every hero from My Hero Academia is from japan.

still don´t have any ugly "strong wyman" feminist shit or trans shit and openly make fun of faggots. a far cry form sjw marvel or dc

>generic shonen full of generic shit
>LOL BETTER THAN WESTERN HEROES
Just fuck off to Sup Forums. Even Naruto was better than this shit

Reddit academia is trash
MC is literally Peter Parker done bad

Isn't that considered "cultural appropriation"?

fuck off weebs

More like a Naruto Uzumaki done ever worse

There’s a stereotypical black guy in BNHA too, he just hasn’t appeared in the anime yet

Must have something to do with how much they trust their government

>I don't read comics and yet I am on a comics board

A decent portion of Sup Forums hates bnha as well. Their hate threads are even cancerous then our SU hate threads.

hmm,

well its obviously anime, so it doesn't fucking belong here.

inb4 autismos misread this reply and make general threads every day for 6 months.

I find it fascinating. American takes on Japanese themes tend to be pretty cringe-inducing though. Every time there's a Japanese super team, it's like "here's a mecha, here's a kaiju, here's a Pokemon, here's a pop idol, here's a ninja/samurai, here's a Power Ranger". Just all these outdated cultural touchstones that someone who doesn't know anything about Japan might think of.

I've always wanted to do a comic that takes the biggest shonen manga characters (ie Goku, Naruto, Luffy, etc) and reinterprets them as a superhero team in a Western style.

In MHA's case it's just taking a basic battle manga framework (a school where you learn to fight) and plugging in superhero themes.

I hate that too. It just shows an ignorance of what superhero comics are actually like. MHA is just superheroes reinterpreted as a battle manga.

Maybe, but the thread also covers the other side of the coin

After all, in the end, they're both sides of the same coin called animation

>gook show about western superhero ideas

Is it any good? I assume it's popular since people are trashing it en mass, but is it at least a good watch?

The first season has fucked up pacing but it gets pretty entertaining. The author has a completely fucked up view of what heroism is though, one of the main characters is a violent psycho who actively bullies and tortures disabled children but it's portrayed as "it's cool because he's good at his job".

i don't find it that western influenced outside some of the costumes. it's pretty average all around to me except the perverted kid who's terrific.

Except both MHA and OPM are shown to be very critical of this system, often presenting many of the heroes as being as bad as the villains.

Bakugo?

It's a Shonen show with heavy nods towards xmen. They even have the goddamn tournament arc that every Shonen show is mandated to go through at least 2 times before the show goes out of production.

It doesn't innovate, it's just "what if Shonen did x".

I've said it before and i'll say it again: if everyone has powers, no one has powers. I don't care if there are weaker ones that are in a lower class, or even people who have no powers. As soon as the planet is 60% metas or higher, they're no longer superhuman. They're just regular people.

If all the powers were 1:1 strength, maybe you’d be right. The reason why All For One is so goddamn strong because his quirk is vastly superior to all other quirks.

That's why most of 616's population is Mutants, right? Or at least what, 40% of everyone on earth?

Because it doesn't affect anything, like Spider-Man saving people? Nothing changes at all if 4 out of every 10 people he saves have superpowers, some of which are on-par with his. Peter is still totally unique. And the Avengers, or the FF? Them too, it still has the same effect if they went to the standard superhero academy just like everyone else, so they could receive their training and certification.

I wish japs took cues from non capeshit comics

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Isn't that kid shitted on because is little weirdo?

No, he's presented as a shitty person whom multiple people say is keeping him from being the great hero he can be since his dedication and observation is very good. It makes sense that Deku'd look up to someone who's seemingly never doubted his place in life despite acknowledging how shitty Bakugo is as an actual human being.

That's the thing with people with conflicting facets. One is no more true than the other. "He isn't like that" is wrong; "he's also like that" is correct. Deku just sees it from one side while everyone else sees it from the other.

And yet in comic book universes anyone can be a hero if they wanted without having to register for shit

Someone didn't watch tiger & bunny.

To be honest it just seems like a means to keep the traditional superhero formula present while maintaining a more believable setting.

No government is going to permit Ubermensch running around as self declared defenders of justice for long without oversight.

They often due you just don't noticed as none superhero comics don't have a cohesive look/theme so you can't directly pin their influence. Miyazaki was big on Moebius for example.

>No, he's presented as a shitty person whom multiple people say is keeping him from being the great hero he can be since his dedication and observation is very good.
Bakugo should have been expelled after All Might's exercise.

O MY REWIND QUIRK!
FUCK THE YAKUZA ARC.
Mirio is the only good thing about this shit

Sweet

It has a bit of a slow start but builds up to some really good moments.

The premise is basically Superman chooses an heir.

I mean in real life

What's stereotypical about him? He doesn't look too bad design wise.

Does he endlessly ramble on about watermelon and fried chicken or something?

t. grapefag

No. He's the normal black human in history of comics. The other user doesn't read so he's shitposting.

While the Japanese still trust their government far more than people in America it would be inaccurate to say that they trust their government full stop.
A series of scandals and a failure to respond to successive crisis means that Japanese people no longer have the famously high levels of trust in their government in the late 80's.

>implying Grapefag would ever compliment Mirio
This arc does suck ass though. Mr Compress clone was a waste and the Amijiki fight was a complete waste of time.

>No government is going to permit

That's actually more unrealistic.

Civil War only worked in Marvel because all the big powers either went neutral or joined Iron Man.

Civil War can't work in DC because

1. The heroes transcend any single nation's authority. Captain Marvel is empowered by the Rock of Eternity. The Lanterns are space cops. Diana is a princess. Arthur is a king. Spectre is the Wrath of God. Dr. Fate is an agent of a Lord of Order.

The authority of the DC heroes is older longer reaching than any politico.

2. The DC heroes are more loved by the public than any politician. If any of them besides Batman asked the public to vote their way they would.

When the Ultramarines fought the League the soldiers had a hard time firing on Superman because they said it was like trying to shoot Mother Teresa.

3. The JSA does a remarkable job instilling a sense of superhero community and tradition and keeping the young generation from going Kingdom Come. The dissolution of the JSA is the in continuity reason while main continuity didn't become Kingdom Come.

>Why that is?

Japan is a collectivist culture. It makes sense they would be extremely socialist when it came to managing superpowered people.

>arc focus was to build secondary characters and world build
>anything that isn't a le madman moment is a waste of time

Oh wait, I forgot I'm on Sup Forums, the board that needed a frame-by-frame breakdown to understand what was going on in the Age of Ultron trailer.

I'd bother explaining but I just know I'll get something akin to "UR FUKKIN STOOPID" in return

They're critical of the system but the system isn't shown to be out and out evil like in American cape comics where they experiment on superhumans behind closed doors and run clandestine Suicide Squads.

Tiger and Bunny had some innovative twists on the superhero genre. MHA is just Naruto or any other Shonen battle high school show with a superhero paint job.

It's Naruto. Did you like Naruto? Then you'll like MHA.

I stopped reading after volume 2. You only have yourself to blame if you couldn't see that the story was never going to really amount to anything.

The integration of Western culture in BNHA is leaps and bounds ahead all the anime shit in Western cartoons lately. Not knocking on anime by itself, just the implementation is godawful and lazy.

Now you're just projecting. It's ok though because even subconsciously you're admitting that the arc is terrible. When did I say I didn't like the secondary character development?
In fact I appreciate less retarded Deku madman moments and more side character development. Just to let you know the Deku MUH MADMAN fight is the worst part of this arc. I'm just glad it's close to an end.

When that happens, OP, you get storytime related.

i feel like that western done by the east is nearly always better than eastern done by the west

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try to explain that to Sup Forums, go ahead and tell them that anime and cartoons are the same.

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>I've always wanted to do a comic that takes the biggest shonen manga characters and reinterprets them as a superhero team in Western style.

I have a cape webnovel/webcomic over at capeworldcomics.com/ and I've tried to make Japanese superheros that don't suck.

The one with the most development is Magical Woman, Empress of Croatoan who taught the mahou shojo of Japan how to use magic.

I didn't want to just plug in Sailor Moon, I wanted to do something interesting with the magical girl formula. So I went back to basics and thought of a character who would start in the 1970's as a sort of Sally the Witch character, a character from a magic land who engaged in wacky slice of life adventures. Gradually she would develop into a more action adventure character as she aged, mirroring how the magical girl genre shifted into action adventure with stuff like Sailor Moon and Magic Knight Rayearth.

Eventually she becomes Japan's Dr. Strange/Professor Xavier, helping Japan's native population of magical girls deal with their powers, powers that started when Amaterasu bled over Japan during WW2 following a fight with Pele (revenge for Pearl Harbor). Her blood stained the souls of several women who started the mahou shojo lines as the soul stain passed from mother to daughter.

I don't think there's ever been a magical girl teacher before, and I find that surprising. Girl media tends to focus on socialization dynamics, but its a common magical girl cliche that the magical girl characters are left guideless and aimless navigating the world beyond a little talking pet. There aren't any Gandalfs or Dumbledores.

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>It's ok though because even subconsciously you're admitting that the arc is terrible

Nigga that's ACTUAL projecting. The arc is perfectly serviceable; the only reason people hate it is because it's taking so long, which is not even the manga's fault because the author got AIDS like a dozen times this year.

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It's not my favorite arc but I'm not hating it either. I'm hoping it's laying the groundwork of something bigger.

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I still feels so weird that this got adapted into a Disney movie.

Tell that to Usagi Yojimbo and Ronin.

There's no real integration of western culture in BNHA. It's just another battle high school story with light splashes of X-men. Cowboy Bebop was better at integrating western culture, or Trigun. I'd so as far as to argue that MS Gundam was a better integration of western sci fi themes than BNHA.

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"adapted" being in the loosest of terms. What makes me feel weird is how Disney is trying to essentially phase from existence that it was a Marvel thing first. Almost as if they don't see "Marvel Comics" as a Disney brand and plan on doing away with it in the future.

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Manga is nothing like Naruto . Usually that's shit people who haven't read it says about it.

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>Goku, Naruto, Luffy

The biggest problem here is that all the big shonen names are more or less the same character. You have your bubbly hyper active guy that loves to eat (Goku, Naruto, Luffy) or your hardass young punk with no manners (Ichigo, Yuusuke).

If you go back in time you also have the stoic badass that used to be really popular (Kenshiro, JoJo, Momo). But by and large shonen leads melt into one another, so it would be hard as hell to write a team book about them when they all have roughly the same voice.

The best I got for my Capeworld stuff is Sun Wukong's daughter who keeps trying to get Silver Star, my take on Superman, to fight her. It's something of a humorous take on Monkey King vs Buddha and all those never ending Goku vs Superman threads.

I read the first two volumes of MHA. It's Naruto.

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Given that Spider-Man effectively created the entire toku genre, I'd have to say that cross-cultural influence is overall a good thing.

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>Tiger and Bunny
>innovative

Its more of Tokusatsu send off than about western superheores. The cast even wears power armors like in Super Sentai.

>It's Naruto.
In the same way every comic is Superman, I suppose.

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Japan is the GOAT at producing any kind of fiction. They BTFO capeshit even with their parodies because they don't have gay rapid fans who cry when their imaginary boyfriend dies temporarily.

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>Big city setting
>Arc about a hero that kills and the heroes having to deal with that
>Arc about a character slowly losing their powers
>A focus on teamwork to take down big threats
>Arc where everyone suddenly thinks the good guy is the bad guy
>An arc where the heroes take turns fighting the invincible bad guy until they figure out the trick at the last momment
>Sky High being straight out of a cape comic

Tiger and Bunny was Cape as fuck. Especially when compared to something like MHA which is cape in name only.

>Naruto starts with a boy who got a powerful spirit infused inside him 12 years later he's the class clown and a failure at his Ninja Academy.

>MHA starts with a boy realizing that he couldn't be a superhero because he has no powers of himself thus sliding into a deep depression for years until meeting his favorite hero who gives him the opportunity to become a hero

Yep...totally similar

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>Arc about a hero that kills and the heroes having to deal with that
>Arc about a character slowly losing their powers
>A focus on teamwork to take down big threats
>Arc where everyone suddenly thinks the good guy is the bad guy
>An arc where the heroes take turns fighting the invincible bad guy until they figure out the trick at the last momment
That's all in MHA which you would know if you actually read it.

Or somebody told them about what happened to a shitload of the young teen heroes (New Warriors, Young Avengers, Gen X and New Mutants) in Marvel and they decided they weren't going to subject themselves to that bullshit.

>Character starts a loser nothing with a huge secret power inside him and gradually learns to unlock and control this power as he battles both his classmates in fighting tournaments and disposable threats from outside his superhero school/ninja school.

Yes totally similar.

Stopped reading after volume 2. After hearing about the OH MY REWIND I'm glad I did. It doesn't look like the story went anywhere.

>Character starts a loser nothing with a huge secret power inside him
Deku has no power inside him he was born quirkless. Just admit you didn't even read it.

>OH MY REWIND
So you're just shitposting. Got it.

What is OH MY REWIND?

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He gets his power from All-Might like really early on. He more or less starts with it.

The whole "kid with no powers goes to superhero school" was done first by PS 238, which is a whole lot better than MHA. Even that disney movie Sky High did it better.

MHA doesn't even keep that premise past the first ten pages or so.