The S(jw)hadow 03 story time

Let watch Si Spurrier desecrate Walter B. Gibson's legecy

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I haven't read anything of this run, but the art looks sick. Am I in for a shitshow?

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Aaaand the inside sucks.

read on and you shall see

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What did OP mean by this?

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Are they seriously peddling Socialist propaganda in a Shadow book?

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>read on and you shall see
yeah i'm afraid i'm going to have to tap out at this stage.

thanks for the storytime. what a shame.

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This is the dumbest shit I've ever seen in my life.
Gibson probably spun his grave into the earth's mantle by now.

I'll give the comic this: it's the first time Jericho Druke ever used his iconic move (or even really did something) in any comic.
But it also makes me even more upset because the character is wasted on a dumb series that fell flat on it's face before even taking off.

I'll give the comic this: it has gotten marginally better (if only because it couldn't get worse than that first offering).
That's the faintest praise I can give it.

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user, Shadow audience lived in the 1930s. It's not like Shadow has his own fanbase that likes him for what he is. And even if it was true, Shadow fans don't have to be an audience for Spurrier, just like gamers don't have to be an audience for game developers.

It's not a betrayal of the audience, it's a betrayal of the character.

>Shadow audience lived in the 1930s.
>It's not like Shadow has his own fanbase that likes him for what he is.
What kind of stupid logic is this ?
There are characters older than The Shadow and with less exposure to general audiences who still have a fanbase.
Doesn't the rejection from Shadow fans, not just from Sup Forums but the Facebook groups with thousands of members each and from people like Anthony Tollin, reaffirm that there is still a fanbase ? If there weren't, no one would have cared.
Controversy is the main reason why this series has received an iota of attention in the first place because it's miniscule sales sure as fuck aren't it.

In fact the tweets you posted only further reaffirm that this rejection is justified and necessary. Because Spurrier is under the delusion that people hate it because "it's about more than a vigilante shooting muggers" (I don't understand why he even made this comic if he has such a low opinion of the series) and "it's told from the POV of a latina".

>Shadow fans don't have to be an audience for Spurrier, just like gamers don't have to be an audience for game developers
But this book is for absolutely no audience.
The kind of people who defend these stupid revisions of characters under the guise of social justice don't read comics, especially a comic featuring an old vigilante from the 30s. And Dynamite is not a big enough company to sustain sales through media shilling like Marvel.
The people who would have the most likelyhood of supporting this book are existing Shadow fans, but considering the book and it's writer go out of their way to shit on them at every passing opportunity, they won't support it either.
This book is for no one but Spurrier's ego.

>Doesn't the rejection from Shadow fans, not just from Sup Forums but the Facebook groups with thousands of members each and from people like Anthony Tollin, reaffirm that there is still a fanbase ?
Yes, it was sarcasm on my part. Him talking about "original audience" is a retarded strawman. If we take out the "original" part and look at current Shadow fanbase, it's probably big enough to save Dynamite book from cancellation on their own, even without signalboosting a good product. I guess Spurrier prefers to be a hip leftist instead of catering to them, market told him what it thinks about that and series is now prematurely ending at #6. Can't wait for Spurrier's treating it like it's "pearls before swine" situation and not realizing, that he is a swine in that equation.

Sorry I misunderstood your sarcasm.
I mean, The Shadow is never going to be as big as he once was (one of America's most popular and best-selling characters), and I don't think that's what the fans want either nor is what would work for the character (this popularity had it's price).

There are constant debates in these groups about the idea of moving him beyond the 30s/40s and there isn't a consensus on whether that's preferable or not. Shitty comics like these are the main reason why purists object to that idea and it's hard to even really blame them.

>Can't wait for Spurrier's treating it like it's "pearls before swine" situation and not realizing, that he is a swine in that equation.
Yeah he definitely has a low opinion of the series and it's fans and seems to attribute this to why it has been so poorly received.
But if that discourages people like him from touching the character again then I see no problem with it.

So, Spurrier doesn't respect the Shadow as a character, and views the Shadow's fans as political enemies.

Why even take the book then?

Just to shit on the rug and ruin others' enjoyment?

SJWs take jobs because its a chance to soapbox and aggrandize, in addition to getting paid for it.

Marvel is brimming with writers and artists that would rather be elsewhere but Marvel is paying the bills, and they get a chance to piss people off so they stay.

>Having signed-up for the gig, I dived into the chance to write this most legendary and pluripotent of characters with zeal. I toyed with the idea of doing – for want of a better phrase – a “straight” story. By which I mean a classic Shadow tale of criminals, spies, derring-do, espionage and shots fired in the darkness. A lovely little thriller, without much wider ambition. But after mulling it over – with the news blaring from the next room and my US pals wringing their hands at the daily cavalcade of unrealpolitik – the opportunity simply felt too singular, too timely, and too important, to miss. I decided to push it. To do something insanely challenging, something intricately structured, something dripping with meaning. I’ve waxed lyrical many times elsewhere about my agnostic relationship with The Superhero as a trope… well, here was a chance to write about one of the first, one of the purest, one of the most unshamedly monstrous. In today’s world of questionable truth, police brutality and open extremism, this felt like soil too fertile to ignore.

He couldn't help himself, had to show everyone how enlightened he is.
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He comes across as a desperately pretentious asshat.

so he took a job to purposely shit on a character? F this guy, he's nowhere near as smart or talented as he thinks.

Yeah, he's a real pretentious prick.
He's basically auditioning for a Marvel job with that attitude.

It weird it’s like when that god awful writer for the current Gi-Joe book went on a 9/11 induced sjw rant and pissed off the fan base because he was baffled that fucking Gi-joe fans would t agree with his viewpoints so he just called them all racist

>desperately pretentious asshat.
Well he is british.

All I’m getting from this is he’s a prick who instead of doing a classic shawdow story decided to inject his politics in the book and is baffled by the fact that it’s shit

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James Buchanan was a Trotskyist in the 30s, then changed his mind in 1940 and left the National Committee of the Workers Party. He went hard right and wrote The Managerial Revolution to explain how New Dealism was close to Stalinism and was killing real capitalism. This is pretty far from socialist propaganda.

"On no ideological, theoretic or political ground, then, can I recognize, or do I feel, any bond or allegiance to the Workers Party (or to any other Marxist party). That is simply the case, and I can no longer pretend about it, either to myself or to others." - May 1940

no wonder he's having a fit over american politics

I would love to read that.

Because he wants to parade his sanctimonious political and social beliefs and complaints about superheroes and he saw The Shadow as an excuse since he was, as he puts it, "one of the most unshamedly monstrous".
And the latina MC even soapboxes in the book about how she dislikes Captain America and Wonder Woman and etc because they "just" beat up people while calling themselves heroes, while The Shadow doesn't call himself a hero and murders so that makes it okay
I don't think I even really need to explain what the problems with this are to anyone with a passing acquaintance with these characters.

>m.youtube.com/watch?v=SCo9C4-6eHk
>bleedingcool.com/2017/09/13/gi-joe-comic-book-writer-911-twitterstorm/
>bleedingcool.com/2017/09/13/idw-statement-gi-joe-911-tweets/

Here’s what I could find about it butIt’s kinsa stupid but the writer seems to despise the fact that G.I. joe fans would at least have more conservative viewpoints, he had cucking snake eyes lose to a Asian kid because of whit appropriation or something

What the fuck did I just get through reading?

Art is not bad until I got to this panal
First thing in my head was "She's Mexican? She doesn't look Mexican."
So know I am not too certain of the art.

But the story. This is crap. Plan and simple I can't say it enough. What the hell, is everybody in the comic industry a idiotic SJW with a cause they have to cram down your throat full force?

Yeah, I went and looked it up myself for clarification.

It sounds like "The Managers" aren't capitalists per se, but a parasitic political upperclass that leech from the people.

Yeah it's not like there are white martial artists who practice different styles out side there country

The sad thing is: if you made an Asian martial artist, folk would say you're racist and stereotyping Asians.

Asians being math whizzes and martial artists are pretty much the only thing white people think they do.

What was the last Asian OC that wasn't a math [or science] wizard or martial artist?

These SJWs try so hard they end uo perpetuating stereotypes.

Thanks I need to absorb this. I just don't understand the comic industry right now.

Vince Chung?

Kong Kenan, or Chinese Superman. I think his character was 'arrogant bully with a heart of gold'.

I don't know if it's the artist or the colorist but someone needs to lay off the fucking tones.

Holy shit this was garbage. And I love the shadow.

Remind me to kick Spurious in the nuts if I ever see him.

Huh, so in this universe the Shadow's agents don't age much?

These will be in future story times of pain

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Poor Shadow doesn't deserve this.