A Shared Marvel/DC Universe

I remember a thread that had a lot of good ideas, so I figured why not. How would a shared universe between the two go? Who would team up, who would be enemies?

Brainstorm away!

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>let's take two cluster fucks and just merge them into one
no

Why does Sup Forums only talk abut capeshit?

Because most of Sup Forums is casuals and superhero comics are all they know

>both DC and Marvel can barely organize their own clusterfuck universes
>wanting it to get even worse via combination

>COMICS and Cartoons

>Cap leads the All-Star Squadron and is never frozen
>Bucky takes over the Cap role in the 60's
>Cap marries Miss America instead of Steve Trevor Sr. and they have a kid
>Bucky (as Captain America), Robin (as Batman), Toro (as Human Torch), Sandy (as Sandman) and Star Spangled Kid (as Starman) make up the All-Star Squadron of Earth-Two and have many team-ups with the Avengers

Peter Parker goes to college with Dick during those years and they become massive bros
Moon Knight squares off a lot with Batman and he finds himself in Arkham a lot.
Constantine becomes Sorcerer Supreme
That old ship Sup Forums use to have of Spider-Man and Powergirl happens.

>Constantine becomes Sorcerer Supreme

Now I want this. Especially if Strange is butthurt about it.

Also, Doctor DOOM and Lex Luthor team up.

Captain America becomes a member of the Justice League. Avengers become the B team of the Universe.

>Hawkeye & Green Arrow are constantly trying one up each other
>Sandman stayed reformed and runs Guy's bar, Warriors, when he's in space
>Gotham villains can not stand NYC villains and the feeling is mutual
>Deathstroke was apart of a program to create a new Captain America.
>The One Punch incident was between Guy Gardner & Hawkeye......yet the settled whatever beef they had and became bros. In fact, Guy Gardner was a West Coast Avenger

>Constantine becomes Sorcerer Supreme
>Nearly everyone involved in Magic is either pissed and/or questioning the Vishanti
>John thinks this is a sick joke played on him
>John works on how he ended up and to get out of in this mess before Strange's enemies decide to murder him.

Why would fucking Constantine be Sorcerer Supreme instead of someone like Zatanna or Dr. Fate?

>Gotham villains turf war vs New York villains turf war.
>Batman Rogues vs Spider-Man Rogues that Peter and Bruce get dragged into.
>Peter /loves/ annoying the shit out of Bruce because he's a stick in the mud like Wolverine. Bruce acts annoyed by it, but secretly enjoys his company.

For the same reason you responded. It's bullshit and would make for fun stories.

Here's an idea: If you want to discuss something other than capeshit, make the fucking thread yourself.

>Gotham villains can not stand NYC villains and the feeling is mutual
I wish one shots were still a thing I'd pay to see DC and Marvel villains banter and duke it out.

Them sharing a universe would mean destroying a lot of history. If anything I'd make them apart of a shared multiverse where and they only crossover under extreme circumstances because doing so can cause catastrophe events.
Both multiverses have a mixed team that protect a physical gate between the two.

Interestingly enough, there are a couple of Marvel universes which do crossover with DC. As well as Transformers. This one is my favorite:

marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Earth-7642

The Punisher, Scourge, Vigilante and Black Spider end up in a Smokin' Aces-style shootout while all going after the same target but eventually realize their mutual goal and join forces against the underworld.

The League Of Assassins and The Hand don't get along nearly as well.

>Long standing rivalry between the Green Lanterns and the Nova Corp
>Captain America wasn't just frozen in this instead he was also thrown into an alternate dimension (and also years into its future) so he can have those WW2 adventures with the older JL but also be in the present
>Peter once attempted to be a Robin on Dick's urging
>Nick Fury Jr. is Nick Fury and Amanda Waller's child

Isn't losing her kids an important aspect of Waller's character though?

She lost two of them. A daughter got raped and killed and a son was killed by accident in a drive by. She had two more daughters I believe , maybe it was just 1, and once they both got through college she enrolled.

>leave DC’s Crisis-events to us

The two biggest man whores of DC and Marvel (Ducks Grayson and Peter Parker) become absolute bros when they meet in college and the friendship is furthered when they discover each other’s secret identities and fight crime together

Also there would be this kino love drama between Dick, Peter, Gwen, MJ, Babs, and Starfire

MAKE IT HAPPEN DAMMIT

Dick*

>Gwen

Keep her dead even if the universes combine.

>Peter and Babs

>Peter and Kori

MUH DICK

Yeah as cool as it would seem it's a safe bet it would have a serious trimming of the fat and a good half of both universes would fall into oblivion never to be used again.

>cutting away chaff like Miles, Jason Todd, and nu-iron man and other shit tier Bendis characters

I’m sold, make it happen

You could honestly probably cut Gwen entirely, Babs and Comissioner Gordon could fill the role of Gwen and Captain Stacy

Except Babs wouldn’t fall to her death like a retard

how would the DC universe deal with something like mutants, not the characters but just random people born with superpowers

>implying capeshit are the only comics

Miles, Jason Todd, and nu-iron man and others would be safe ya dummy.
They cut off most of the GL, most of the Spider family and a good pile of C listers like Moon Knight and Miss Martian.

So Barbara would be pregnant with Killer Moth's twins?

Aren't those what DC's meta humans are? The Justice League were only surprised at how mutants were treated so there must be something similar.

>implying a sins past type story would be canon in this universe

reeeeeeeee

>Peter is an honorary titan
> Peter, Dick, and Johnny are bros
>Peter and Dick went to college together
>Dick was at Peter's wedding to MJ
>MJ has been trained in self-defense by Black Canary (Dinah Queen)
>during one of their off phases MJ briefly dated Bruce Wayne
>The Joker once decided to target a younger superhero due to always being defeated by Batman. That Superhero was Ms.Marvel (Kamala Khan) he was defeated by a team up from Ms.Marvel and Batman. Though Ms.Marvel did briefly stop superheroing to cope with the Joker's usually heinous antics that leaves a high body count.
>Batman is the godfather of Jonathan Samuel Kent
>Captain America fought alongside Wonder Women (Hippolyta) in World War II

>implying Dick wouldn’t have dicked MJ himself

Wew

Why are you guys putting Cap on the JLA when he should be on the JSA with his old army buddies.

Also I have a feeling that Batman and GA would really, really not get along with Tony in any capacity.

That’s because Wayne and Tony are almost the same person, Tony’s just less broody and edgy than Bruce

>That’s because Wayne and Tony are almost the same person

Batman isn't a fucking supervillain who caused a superHERO war.

They're both known for acrobatics so it fits.

Batman vs Ironman, Superman vs Batman style WHEN

>Gwen, MJ, Babs, and Kori

One of these is not like the others

>Batman throws an EMP Batarang
>Tony Stark falls under the weight of his own armour
>Batman whistle and Captain America walks over and punches Tony in the face

It's not even a fight.

In a universe where magic and stuff is real, how skilled and strong would Batman actually be, since he's supposed to have trained in every field of study and stuff. Shouldn't he literally be more than peak human?

>Constantine becomes Sorcerer Supreme

Unless this was just a part of a con and it didn't actually happen, no.

He has already dabbled into mystic shit and as far as I remember magic is supposedly stronger in the DC universe so a merge shouldn't do that much to his "powerlevel".

Could change some of his relations and backstory though having him encounter Marvel elements during his training to become Batman.

iirc the batman/daredevil team-up had matt and harvey be law schoolmates. not sure how close those two got in the story but that sounds interesting.

What if in addition to a shared universe, it was also without a sliding timeline?

>Superman intervened in the Namor vs Human Torch fight
>It was Steven Rogers, not Trevor, who landed on Themysceria/Paradise Island and Diana to fight on behalf of humanity

>Could change some of his relations and backstory though having him encounter Marvel elements during his training to become Batman.

Early dealings with the Hand before he became Batman sound interesting. Knowledge of K'un L'un through not having been there. Probably encountered Elektra and Wolverine in their "pre history" too.

Do you think he would have visited/trained in Latveria at all?

the waynes are good friends with the wakandan royal family

batman never comes into existence

I like this other than the implications it has for the rest of the JSA.

>Steve Rogers lands on Themysceria in the 40s.

Man can you imagine how happy WW would be when the Avengers find him?

>Joe Chill is replaced by Sabertooth, eviscerates the Waynes.

you cannot believe the circumstances that enabled him to use "the wolverine" as his nom de guerre.

That would be really lovely. In the interim between Steve getting frozen and discovered, which would be better for Diana
>Stays pretty much the same
>Goes into semi-retirement
>Becomes a bit more jaded like in Brave New World

Prior to Dooms ascension there is nothing really noteworthy about Latveria so I see no real reason for him to go there.

Though he definitely has researched everything he could about Doom once he took over.

The semi-crazy 50s Cap is the primary enforcer for the whole "all heroes must unmask and/or work for the government or retire" thing, which is ironic since he himself is an imposter.

>Thanos and Darkseid crashing other people couch/comfy chair together
>Deadpool having a relationship with Death of the Endless
>Batman joining the Illuminati

...

>Punisher has to go down gotham regularly
>got thrown into Arkham once
>once

how can a Universe have 2 spirits of vengeance

Wade and Slade are cousin or distance relative and Wade copying Slade's style because lol

the spectre powers up GR making a new hero (kinda like MC2's darkdevil)?

I don't know, instead of him just effortlessly Franking everyone, I think I'd prefer if he at least gets fucked up enough to not try that again.

There's a reason that 90% of the time he sticks to the shallows, and it's not just editorial not allowing marketable villains to die.

Ever heard of the Wold Newton family ?
It's basically a long shared universe project started by Phillip Jose Farmer and continued by several authors based on the idea that fictional characters like Tarzan, The Shadow, Sherlock Holmes, Doc Savage and so on were not only all real people, but inhabited the same setting and were somewhat related. And it's basically a free-for-all with people being invited to add whatever the fuck they want into the mix as long as they can work it into the timeline.
It's a goddamn clusterfuck and probably the world's oldest and largest crackfic but it's pretty fun to read.

Marvel and DC superheroes became part of that after a while under the pretense that they were real people but the stories presented in the comics were fictionalized and exaggerated versions of their real lives.
pjfarmer.com/woldnewton/Chron0.htm#Rules
pjfarmer.com/secret/marvelous/marvels-index.htm

user not everyone is a superpowered villain in arkham

The Spectre = the embodiment of God's Vengeance
Ghost Riders = soldiers of The Spectre born of the soul of victims who desire vengeance from beyond the grave.

>Herc and Diana have to team up to defeat Ares... and Ares?!
>SamNova teams up/gets mentored by the Earth GLs.
>Ego vs Mogo
>Carol Danvers and Kamala Khan gets flung into the Thunderworld universe for the ultimate Marvel family crossover.
>Deadpool vs Lobo

>cap turns out to be even more useless leaguer than non-god batman

>Apokolips vs Asgard! Darkseid has defeated Odin and enslaved the Asgardians! Can Thor defeat Darkseid in a fight and save the Golden City?

>Secret Origins! Who is the most dangerous of Ra's al Ghul two young pupils? Bruce Wayne or Victor Von Doom?

>Daredevil VS. Lex Luthor, the Kingpin of Metropolis!

>Atlantis Attacks! Even with the help of the Amazons of Themyscira, can Aquaman defends his city against Namor, the real Monarch of the Seven Seas? Also in this issue: who is the father of Aquaman? Namor!

>A blast from the past! Captain America and his Justice Society fights the villainous Red Skull! Also, how the Ultra-Humanite turned Hitler into the Hate Monger!

>The Fantastic Four vs the Fatal Five! Human Torch, the new member of the Legion of The Superheroes! Who is smarter, Brainiac or Mister Fantastic?

>Sins Past! Spider-Man faces a familiar villain from his childhood, his neighbour BUENO EXCELLENTE!

>War Planet Hulk! The Green Gladiator faces Mongul in the arena!

>Is Flash an Inhuman? In this issue Flash and The Inhumans invade Gorilla City searching for answers!

>Weird Western Tales: Jonah Hex faces the Phantom Rider in a duel at midnight! The loser becomes the new Ghost Rider!

>Annihillation! The Green Lantern Corps must face Annihillus and it's hordes to save the universe! The death of the Nova Corps!

>The Death of Superman! Can Superman survive Death and her lover Thanos?

>Giant-Size Swamp Thing! Swamp Thing journey trough the Nexus of Realities and find an unexpected oponent: Captain Britain, champion of the Omniverse!

>In Blackest Night: The power ring has a new wielder and his name is Doctor Doom!

>Casualties of War! The Punisher comes for an old friend... Deathstroke!

>Wayward sons: Red Hood, Winter Soldier and Kaine cross paths!

>Wolverine: Batman's father? The truth behind the Waynes' trip to Madripoor!

>Catfight: Catwoman and Black Cat have the same mark: The Sanctum Sanctorum!

>Arsenal under the influence! Starfox teaches how love can be a drug!

>Mutants Lives Matter! Green Arrow advocates for mutant rights, but someone isn't happy: MAGNETO!

>The Deadliest Catch: The Collector hires Lobo to steal the Silver Surfer's board!

>The Avengers face their greatest challenge yet: Plastic Man's membership interview!

>Right on the mark? Bullseye joins the Suicide Squad!

>A battle for honor: Katana faces the Silver Samurai! Will Wolverine meet his end against the Soultaker sword?

>Justice for all: Matt Murdock defends Funky Flashman in the court! Who is he up against? Kate Spencer!

>Plastic Man, Miss Martian, Firestorm and Citizen Steel: The New Fantastic Four!

>The Lost Weekend: When Hal Jordan hits on Emma Frost!

>War Above the Skies! Darkseid invades Attilan! What's more powerful: Black Bolt or the Anti-Life itself?

>Clash of the Titans! Lex Luthor and Doctor Doom face off in the greatest battlefield of all: The chessboard!

>A Deal With the Devil: Felix Faust is back and under Mephisto's control! Only Zatanna and Ghost Rider can prevent him from stealing Spear of Destiny!

>Girls Night Out: Cassandra Cain and X-23 go to the movies! Guest-starring Deadpool!

>A touch of Chaos: Rogue touches Mr. Bones! The X-Men caught by the DEO!

>New World Order! Doctor Doom, Magneto, Namor, Black Adam and Bane form their own political coalition!

>Midnight Run: Hawkman and Bruce Banner handcuffed together in Mexico! Banner can't get stressed! Hawkman can't get calm! The Juggernaut is on their trail!

>Trading Places: Superman and Wolverine switch bodies! Sabretooth is out for blood! Mr. Mxyzptlk is out for chaos! Lois Lane is out of town! It gets worse: Lana Lang is single and ready to mingle!

>Crazy, stupid love: The Flash has his eyes on the Scarlet Witch, but not if Quicksilver can prevent it!

>>Dick was at Peter's wedding to MJ
That would be a better excuse to their marriage be gone than OMD. Dick is any relationship's kryptonite.

>implying tony would have such a glaring weakness after the first version of his armor

bump

>Meanwhile Harry would third wheel the fuck outta everything and try and relate to Dick about having a rich daddy that's distant and when he becomes the Goblin after Norman, it makes him and Dick have a "we're two sides of the same coin, you know" type of hero-villain rivalry
>Harry then eventually teams up with Jason Todd/Red Hood

This is delicious

I should point out that site's timeline only went up to about 2010 and eventually got modified in the Crossovers book (like for instance, in the updated timeline they included the What If Thor Fought Conan issue into the timeline and removed the Godzilla at World's End novel)

Also the second link was a bunch of ideas one guy had; some of the theories got incorporated into the timeline, but a lot of others didn't (like for instance the Inferior Five one)

Lobo: Herald of Galactus.

Becuase Constantine actually fought hell, fucked the devil, and came back drunk than Mr. Fucked up Helmet and Fishnets mcCooter over there.

Also the last time the universes crossed over, Wanda started turning evil in the DCU.

>Harry then eventually teams up with Jason Todd/Red Hood
Make Damien have to go after them both with separate forms of disgust for each and this is me